Robert99

Bruce, You are a better writer of science fiction than Blevins. And your idea above is certainly more original than Blevins' "KC is Cooper" or Jo Weber's "Duane was Cooper because he told me he was" silly claims. If anyone is dumb enough to believe Blevins and Jo's claims, then the possibility of time travel should be considered seriously as well. Robert99

Blevins, let me point out again that you are the one who keeps bringing this subject up. And since Bruce has already rejected your offer (by your own statement), I see no reason for your to keep running your mouth on the subject. Robert99 You started all this by offering uninformed advice. You should put your money (to Bruce) where your mouth is. If you thought my offer was a bad one to Bruce, not only did you fail to offer him alternatives, you didn't even offer to help him. At least I did that. And you didn't answer my question above anyway. No worries, you don't have to answer. I think we can move on from this subject. Blevins, my advice to Bruce was not as uninformed as you apparently think. And it was Bruce who turned down your offer. You are not a party to anything that goes on between Bruce and myself or Bruce and myself individually. My response to your questions is you should mind your own business. Robert99

Blevins, let me point out again that you are the one who keeps bringing this subject up. And since Bruce has already rejected your offer (by your own statement), I see no reason for your to keep running your mouth on the subject. Robert99

Not to worry, R-Nine-Nine. Semper Fi. Keep the faith? Is that ALL you offer for Bruce? How about backing up your recommendation with some alternatives. Like opening up your checkbook for him. Unless Bruce can convince a traditional publisher to take the book, then his only free option is Kindle. And right now, traditional publishers aren't interested in DB Cooper without a solution to the case. Previous Cooper books are either out of print, or were reletively poor sellers. In the Kindle version, our book on KC is usually ranked higher than Gray's, a book that was backed by an imprint of Random House. This does not demonstrate Cooper as a really marketable subject. Self-publishing, especially if you don't plan to do a lot of books, is a very respectable option these days. And there is a free method here, although I don't recommend it. That would be Lulu.com. But their pricing structure makes it impossible to get the book stocked by bookstores or even make it to the Ingram catalog. This leaves Lightning Source, the professionals in this biz. The minimum required to go the LSI route is about five hundred dollars, minus the cover, etc. If you think we're so bad at what we do around here (I turn down three edit requests for pay for every one I accept) then maybe you should support that by helping Bruce out financially to make his book reality. Besides, Robert99...there is no need to keep bringing all this up. I withdrew the offer the second time Bruce said no. I'm sure he will get around to putting out the book, and then he will discover how that all works for himself. Other Stuff: One time I told the media officer at the King Co Sheriffs Office that maybe they should let former Colorado Springs homicide detective Joe Kenda (Homicide Hunter, Investigation ID channel) take a look at the case files on Earl Cossey. The officer got a bit miffed at me for suggesting that, and said so. Well...Kenda solved nearly 400 homicides in real life. Hope I don't get pulled over by the KCSO anytime soon. Blevins, You are the one who keeps reminding everyone what a magnanimous offer you made to Bruce.

Bruce, if you read this, my advice still stands. You don't need Blevins' help on your book! Just keep the faith. Robert99

Jo, Do you have an alibi for the time Cossey was murdered? Do the police have the "details" you state above? They sound like things only the murderer would know. Jo, what is your "real" legal name? You have used screen names such as "Jo Weber" and "Mrs. Cooper" but have never revealed your actual legal name. To the best of my knowledge, Bruce has never asked anyone to do his research. But you use unbelievable arguments to claim that you can't do actual research with your computer equipment and demand that other do your work. And then you get even madder when they can't come up with the middle initial of the second wife of Duane's third cousin who lived in Podunk, Montana in 1941 and who Duane never met or ever heard of in the first place. Jo, your only reason for being on this thread, or anywhere else, is to obstruct the D.B. Cooper investigation. Even if Duane knew the name of the mythical man on the grassy knoll, it does not mean that he was involved in the Cooper hijacking. And Duane sure as hell was NOT Cooper. And your posts are filled with nothing but bullshit. You wouldn't know a "fact" if you saw it walking down the street. Robert99

1. When Cossey hung up on me, I had just asked him why he had sent his parachutes to Boeing Field and not Sea-Tac. I can't state for a fact WHY Coss hung up, but it may have been because he didn't want to answer such a probing question. 2. When I showed up unannounced at his house, he was already dead. I didn't think it would be a problem. Again, I was acting as a journalist. Lastly, the Bigger Question is, don't you want to know why Coss sent his chutes to the wrong airfield? And the related Biggest Question is, why didn't anyone ask him that before, such as the FBI???? Don't you want to know the answers to these kinds of questions? Anyone? Can I get an Amen! Amen!

'Pending a talk with Bruce Smith'. LOL. This only proves that Shutter doesn't REALLY run things at his own website on Cooper. He only pays for the bandwidth. He has other bosses out there. My assessment of these things is truer than ever, without a doubt. You guys are funny, if nothing else. That site was never truly public and is controlled by a few Cooperland folks, some of whom were banned by Dropzone. Blevins, you are truly funny yourself. Haven't you been banned from Dropzone about four or more times yourself? And about five or 10 times, you have stated that you were leaving DZ but you usually returned the very next day. Robert99

Well, I was banned from the other site and all I did was go there to read. THis is what I found: "Sorry Skyjack71, you are banned from using this forum! Pending a talk with Bruce Smith. This ban is set to expire March 21, 2015, 12:36:38 AM." Why in the HELL would I want to speak the worst of the scum in the world - that will be a cold day in hell. That man is the scum of the earth and he should NOT be allow to post on the DZ at all. NOR should Robt 99. What these guys have done is set up a fly trap. THere are 2 guys on that forum who know the truth about Cooper & lots of other Goverment secrets.[/b ] Georger whose REAL name is Jerry Warren was incharge of a crew who worked for Kissy Kissy out of TX. This wealthy man would give ex-cons a job. He even allowed some of them to chauffer & park cars during his very large parties which included such individuals as Presidents of the USA and famous movie stars. This was before Kennedy was killed. You see when I am unable to read and monitor what certain ones are saying then I occupy my time telling the truths I have hidden for yrs and yrs. Jerry Warren or Warner. Yrs ago his name came up as the man who held the records and he was no longer in Tx...so why would the record be in his hand...employment records??? Because in the early days the guys were just cons who did special things for this wealth man...but, he helpd several of the become ligitimate in return for their efforts. They got to work REAL jobs for REAL pay and have life insurance and health insurance...he provided for the ones who helped him clean up things. When I was trying to chase Duane's background is when I found out about Jerry's connection to Kissy Kissy and the company he created and owned. This man had the same heritiage as Georger....They honored the country they adopted....but did not like to see it being destroyed. They therefore set up their own forces to protect and do no Harm. Unfortunately one of their protective stands failed & Kennedy was assassinated. A crew was sent in - ordered not to be armed - they were paid and trained by "Do NO Harm". They went to DALLES to protect the president, but knew if they were armed they would be blamed for his assassination. They had hoped their presence would stop what they knew had been planned. Robt99 I believe is part of this because of his connections & he is a pilot....and he hailed at one time from that same area. He was a late comer to the Cooper story. but was brought in to HANDLE Jo. Now lets see if they want to TALK! Robt99 do you remember that trip in 1969 or 1970...what did you bury in the wall. Georger - evidently the lesson you provided about the stars and the moon and the position these things would be in on that night were of no avail due to the storm...but there was other safe guards in place...one Tower they hope he could see even thru the clouds - the tower light blinked - and it was NOT suppose to do so... The guy on duty that night lost his job for a few wks but then they decided it didn't have anything to do with the jump and let the man go back to work... NOW do any of you THINK Jo has anything TO talk to the liar Bruce Smith of Cooper world....the man who sucks everyone dry with his lies and vulgarities. This is the pyramid theory and he knew if he could see that light it was furtherest most point...his compass would guide him on ground and he had the technology with him to send out a signal so he could be picked up. Well, the damn thing didn't work so he headed to the towers he was picking up a signal on... How much of the above can I prove - ALL OF IT. I had stayed quiet WAY too long. NOW it is time. I have feared for my life if I came forward, but at this stage of my life - I fear NO ONE. BRR! I have thrown that out for yer and NO one got it except Georger & Robt...that is when Robt entered the picture... Jo, You are completely, totally, really, actually, 100 percent nuts! There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Call 911 and tell them you have mentally gone over the cliff and need to get to your local psychiatric ward immediately. Seriously! Robert99

I know no such thing, Robert99. (That KC was not Cooper) Don't put words into my mouth. If I thought there wasn't a chance KC was Cooper, I wouldn't have spent the last seven months working on a 62-page final report on him for the Seattle FBI. Or spending the money to run Lyle Christiansen's DNA. Or spend MORE money traveling around this summer to interview additional witnesses. Are you kidding me or what? I haven't put a link up to my book here in years. I don't even refer to it by its complete title, not generally, nor do I try to sell it to others at Dropzone. I've offered it up free to anyone reading the thread. SEVERAL times now. Just like Bruce Smith does with his manuscript. I don't see you harping on him about that. Wake up and smell the coffee. 90% or better of our paperback sales at AB of Seattle are done through the Ingram Catalog, which is only available to bookstores, retailers, jobbers, etc. and they don't visit Dropzone. We're wholesale only, Robert....you can't even purchase directly from us. So stop saying that crap please, because it isn't true. And I get tired of having to remind you on how a trade publisher works. You might be an excellent pilot but you don't know squat about the publishing biz. Cooper gets discussed here all the time. It is not my fault that Jo puts up three or four posts in a row. You can address that with her if you wish. In fact, I have tried to limit my postings to no more than one or two a day at most. Your 'Broadway musical' reference is both insulting and shows that you and a few other Cooperites are jealous and possibly angry that a legitimate film production company would show an interest in the Christiansen story. I don't see anything particularly wrong with them doing that. And I already turned down one offer from another client because they wanted to take serious liberties with Kenny's story. This proves that my main interest in any possible film about Kenny has nothing to do with money. Or musicals. But the truth. EDIT: I want to address another issue with you as well, Robert. It was when you advised Bruce Smith not to take my offer of editing, cover creation, formatting, and assisting him in setting his book up wholesale via Lightning Source, and via Amazon for the Kindle. Bad idea you think? Here's what you advised him against, which we were ready to provide him for free: Upload fees to LSI, $75. Cost of ISBN, single number: $150. Cost of EAN Bookland barcode, required for books which will be sold in stores: $25. Cover design, front and rear, plus spine: Cost varies, but even the cheap guys charge at least $300 for this. Professional editing and formatting for paperback, including an About The Author section, front and back matter included: Varies, but typical cost is $100 per 10,000 words of the manuscript. I believe Bruce's ms runs about 80K words or more, doesn't it? Cost of proof copy: $30. Cost of inclusion into Ingram's Advance Notice Catalog, which reaches more than 10,000 bookstores and retailers worldwide: $30. He was to get that all for FREE, plus the creation of the Kindle edition exclusively for Amazon, and his paperback would be available for printing/shipping at wholesale rates in the US, Great Britain, Europe, (two outlets there), South America, Asia, and Australia. He would have been able to obtain his own copies for less than three bucks a pop (for signings, etc) through LSI/Ingram, Amazon and the usual outlets would have listed it because it was at the wholesale trade rate, and these entities would have retailed it for $9.99. For each sale, Bruce would have made about three dollars and change, and all Amazon jobbers and outside distributors would have picked it up and listed it for sale through their own outlets as well. (Because they can make money when the book is available at the trade rate discount.) All in his own name, possibly his own small press if he wanted. This is easy to set up for an author these days, with so many self-publishing their own work. Yeah...you REALLY gave him good advice there. Why? Because you weren't thinking about what might be best for Bruce's book, but your personal issues with ME. You should stick to flying, which you are far better at doing and much more informed about. I don't have a problem with Bruce releasing a book that's both professional and actually priced to sell in the traditional manner. Only YOU did. Of course, Bruce can still release just the Kindle version. But if you don't format the book properly (and this is NOT easy to do) it will get screwed up time and again in Amazon's Kindle converter and they will keep rejecting it until he gets it right. You can't just upload a normal Word document and then it magically works for the Kindle. If you don't know what you're doing...it's 'Dude, You're Screwed,' like the TV show. BRUCE SMITH, my advice still stands. Don't let Blevins get involved with your book. This is a gift horse where you definitely want to check the teeth. For the record, I don't believe in the Tooth Fairy or Santa Claus either (forgive me St. Nick). Robert99

Jo, You apparently haven't noticed that D.B. Cooper has not been discussed on this thread for the last couple of years or so. The vast majority of posts in recent years have been by Blevins on his KC book, movie manuscript, and forthcoming Broadway stage musical, and by you pushing Duane as Cooper. And as both Blevins and you know, KC and Duane Weber were NOT Cooper and did not have anything to do with the hijacking. In my opinion, your chances of finding a picture showing a building at your claimed location are rather small since all other pictures of that location over the decades do NOT show a building there. Just saying. Robert99

Blevins, really? From what I have seen of your science fiction writing, you are unable to even predict the past. So "Most of the penguins died with their eyes closed."??? Shakespeare can relax. Other things being equal, "what might happen if we continue on our future course as a species" is that the Planet Earth will die a heat death and the human race will have disappeared long before that. The Laws of Thermodynamics, among the best proven laws in science if not the best, plainly show that. But the oil and gas companies and the people they have bought in Washington, DC deny this and will probably pass a law next year claiming that thermodynamics is not science. And that is about the case with the ozone matter as well. Robert99

I could see the beach from the car at the point the parking lot was in 1979, but I could not see the area behind the house....a house you claimed was not there in 1979.....DUH! Why not aske the Fazio's for pictures of the area taken in 1979 or before! Jo, Why would the pictures taken by the government not show features that you claim are in pictures taken of the same area and at the same time by the Fazio's? Why don't you call NASA and ask them to figure it out? Maybe you have discovered a new law of science, or at least of photography. Robert99

So says the man who said there was NO house & that JO claimed she was there at night. Do you know who Duane's family was and who his relatives where? Do you know the name of all of the contractors? Don't be foolish like someone was before when they claimed Boeing did all the manufacturing of every thing used on that plane...they did NOT! Jo, I have not seen ANY post by ANYONE on this thread that claimed Boeing made everything used on the 727 or any of their other aircraft. Who are you claiming made that statement? Robert99

Jo, you say no one was on the beach in 1979 and you also say that you stayed in the parking lot and did not go to the beach. You have previously stated that your claimed 1979 visit was at night. So have you EVER actually seen Tina Bar? Robert99

Duane was a professional jailbird who did not have any qualifications that would be of interest to Air America or Boeing. Robert99

What a bunch of self-serving BS, Robert99. Are you kidding me or WHAT? You, Georger, and a few select others spend a great deal of your time (and postings) at the alternate site doing zilch except commenting badly on posters at Dropzone. You understand anyone hanging around here can see that stuff, right? To be fair to you, you guys DO discuss other subjects and sometimes very well. But it is true that a fair number of posts are about writing off anything that comes out of the Dropzone thread and talking rather badly about some people here. I think it's sour grapes since some of your past and present users there were banned from Dropzone for personal attacks. You got a suspect that will be proven soon? Is this what you mean by 'the chickens coming home to roost?' Maybe you mean William Gossett. Well...Galen Cook told everyone he was going to Alaska to write the defiinitive book that would prove Gossett was the hijacker. It's been more than five years and everyone's still waiting for the proof. I'm not trying to shut out the truth on Cooper. I'm trying to determine whether or not Kenny Christiansen was Cooper. You make a lot of blanket statements about Christiansen. These 'declarations' of yours that he wasn't the guy. But the truth is you don't know shit for sure whether Kenny was the guy. You just like to make declarations about it to impress your buddies at the alternate site. You aren't even involved in the active investigation that is being done not just by me, but by several other people now...on determining the truth about Christiansen. You aren't in the loop. I hear a lot of pap and crap about the witness descriptions. Some of you believe the sketch is actually a photograph and the descriptions are completely accurate. Can't be Christiansen you say. He was too short. Well, hell...the guy you've been talking about lately over at the alternate site, Bill Mitchell, told the FBI that he thought Cooper was no more than five foot nine. One stew said five ten to six feet. Another said maybe six feet. All of them except Mitchell thought they were going to die. You guys ignore reality a lot. Really you do. Stew Flo Schaffner said everyone (stews) were scared to death. Flo also said she thought she'd never see her family again. Bill Rataczak told Skipp Porteous that everyone expected the last thing they would ever hear was the first part of the 'bang' when the bomb went off. Some of you guys act as if these stews weren't human or something, and that their descriptions while under the most severe stress from not only the hijacker, but all those cops was just nothing. You don't try to put yourselves in their shoes. The pressure, the responsibility for all those lives including their own. Working with the FBI, with NWA, such a short time to do it all, to somehow stop what was happening and maybe catch the hijacker into the bargain. You look at the whole thing as some clinical exercise without a bit of emotion in any of it. On the other hand, the famous picture of Tina Mucklow and the crew deplaning in Reno shows Mucklow looking frightened and in the early stages of shock. You think you can solve the case by examining aerial photos, or super-analyzing every detail of the hijacking. More crap. That's been done for forty-plus years. Still no ID on the hijacker. I'm going to tell you a secret. THIS is how you solve the Cooper case: You identify a possible suspect and then dig, gather, interview, collect evidence, and do whatever it is you have to do in order to either confirm that suspect or eliminate him as the hijacker. And doing all that, I still haven't been able to eliminate him. I haven't been able to definitively prove he WAS, either. But I'm getting closer all the time. Here's another surprise for you: Living witnesses make the BEST witnesses, especially when their testimony is untainted by any possible gain, or any possible motivation to lie. And although there have been many twists and turns investigating Kenny Christiansen (along with some mistakes) I still haven't been able to eliminate him as the hijacker. And this persistence is beginning to show results, especially after we started working with the family of the alleged accomplice, Bernie Geestman. Additional witnesses are coming forward, and these witnesses, although a bit reluctant, are ready to offer what they know regarding the actions of one Kenny Peter Christiansen and his pal Bernie. Not about what they did on Shemya Island in the 50's, or whether Kenny grew veggies on the farm when he was growing up...but what he and Bernie Geestman were doing between the summer of 1971 and after the date of the hijacking. Announcement: A close family member of Bernie Geestman's has come forward. It has been difficult for her and we are handling her testimony with respect and patience. She was in a key position at the time of the hijacking because she was in attendance at the Thanksgiving dinner that was held at the home of Helen Jones, the one Bernie Geestman skipped out on, and the one Kenny was supposed to attend. The one where they both went missing the week of the hijacking. She has claimed that she believes now that she actually SAW Kenny Christiansen constructing the device that was later used to hijack Flight 305. But she didn't put it all together until AFTER January 2011 when she first saw the TV show on Kenny Christiansen. (Brad Meltzer's Decoded) Up until then, (since 'Uncle Bernie' never bothered to tell his family he would be on the show) they didn't have a clue on anything Christiansen/Geestman regarding the hijacking. It was an eye-opener for them and when they saw Bernie's interview on the show, they started comparing notes. Not long before the hijacking, this witness was living with the Geestmans in Bonney Lake. She was about 12 years old. She says she walked into a shed and saw Kenny working with some items, but not exactly things you would normally associate with a bomb. Not REAL dynamite for example, and no alarm clock. But after she saw the show, it clicked for her. It took her more than a year to gather the courage to contact me through her son. Then I did the first interview with all of them and provided them with the draft copy of our current updated report on Christiansen. That was in August of this year. They examined the report and we discussed it at length. The interview went on for a couple of hours at a local restaurant. She was pretty non-committal at the time, but told me the next day that the family would rather not say anything about Geestman's involvement in the hijacking until after Bernie Geestman was dead. Then last week...I get contacted again and they tell me about what she saw old Kenny working on in a shed on the Geestmans' property. This happened shortly before the date of the hijacking. She says she walked in on him in the shed while he was working on something, and that he turned to her and said THIS: ***"You're not supposed to be in here." So she turned and left, but not before getting a good look at the items he was working with. I was expecting her to tell me about a battery, wires, road flares, a briefcase. This would prove nothing, of course. She could have got that information anywhere. But her story made perfect sense. She named other items Kenny was working with and said she realized after the History Channel show aired that the report was basically right, and that Kenny was actually making the device he would use soon afterward to hijack 305. And the funny thing is...one of the items has something to do with coin collecting, believe it or not. In other words, if Kenny was Cooper, he did NOT use road flares to hijack the plane. He used something else, and then something ELSE on TOP of that item. To make the first item LOOK like dynamite. This actually made sense, since road flares are easily recognizable by their printing, their size, and the ignitor cap. When I realized what Kenny was doing, my first thought was: Damn, that is smart. Even a stewardess might recognize that road flares and wires and a battery were just road flares and wires and a battery. In fact, it was downright brilliant and had a practical use, besides looking like dynamite. Genius. It took me about five seconds flat to figure out how the FBI could prove her testimony is truthful. The item Kenny used ON TOP of the other items would be easily noticed by anyone (even a stewardess who only got a quick look)...and more importantly...that this item has NEVER been mentioned or referred to by the FBI. It would be far beyond guesswork or coincidence if this lady were right about the bomb, and we think either the FBI withheld this information, or never said anything about it because they didn't think it mattered. But it DOES matter now, especially if the FBI knows and she is RIGHT. How would she know about that item? They will ask that. I can't tell you what the items are because I want the FBI to see her testimony first. And you and your trash-talking buddies over at the other site better hope she's wrong, or she will suddenly become the most important witness in the hijacking. Not only that, but she says that if Margie Geestman (who is strongly suspected by me and others of knowing ALL the details of the hijacking) talks to her, that Margie will tell her everything even if she is unwilling to tell anyone else. She is certain on that. She is one brave lady, I will tell you that. So the plan is to add her testimony to the upcoming report on Christiansen, provide her contact information to them, and name BOTH items. If the FBI is aware of the special item used in part to create the bomb, then they will know she is telling the truth. And I don't know how anyone could have missed it. I wish I could tell you the item, but trust me when I say it would have obvious even with a quick glance. One of the things this witness asked of me was to tell me where Helen Jones was now. She and her family wanted to talk to Jones about what happened that Thanksgiving. (Jones had moved since the date of the hijacking.) So...I provided that information to the family. And...they talked to her. Now they know for sure that Kenny was WITH Bernie Geestman during the week of the hijacking when he went missing. Jones told them the same thing she told me: That she saw Kenny at the Sumner Laundromat about six weeks after the crime and that he admitted to her he was with Geestman that week. What does this mean? That the family asked the same question I did when I saw Geestman on Decoded telling the cast that yes...Kenny could be the hijacker because 'he looks just like him,' (the sketch) They asked themselves WHY Uncle Bernie would say that when everyone knew that he was WITH Christiansen the whole week of the hijacking. I am not really responsible for these revelations. The family was working on it, comparing notes, asking questions, etc ever since they saw Uncle Bernie on the History Channel in January 2011. They just eventually came to me about it. Blevins, the above is just more of your garbage. You have got it wrong from the start. You don't start with a suspect and then try to find evidence to incriminate that suspect. You start with the evidence and let the evidence lead you to a suspect. You claim people on the "other site" run down people on this site. Just exactly what have you and Jo Weber been doing lately, including your post above, in discussing people on the other site? Robert99

Jo, is this post suppose to make sense? I don't have the slightest idea of what you are talking about. Robert99

Jo, it has been obvious to all for years that you have been keeping "secrets". And your biggest secret is what you are getting out of this. Has someone paid you to do this? Do you have a book ready to publish? Or is it just that you have an ego that benefits from imagining that Duane was Cooper? Your need to picture Duane as some kind of James Bond character, when in fact he was an unsuccessful small time crook, has resulted in your fabricating stories that Duane had absolutely nothing to do with. You are not entitled to call such fairy tales "truth". And you are obviously disappointed when no one believes your wild stories. But Duane Weber was not D.B. Cooper and had nothing to do with the hijacking, even on the ground. Your efforts to claim otherwise are so over-zealous as to suggest that you probably have some serious mental issues. As I have suggested before, in my judgment it would be in your best interests to seek medical care for this. Neither Georger, I, or anyone else (Blevins possibly excepted) are trying to prevent the truth about the Cooper hijacking from coming out. And the truth will come out. And there is no indication whatsoever that it will be anything to support your claims. Just remember that the chickens are coming home to roost. And for your claims, the end result may not be pretty. So be honest with everyone on this thread for once. Just explain what you are getting out of your Duane "crusade". That is the only secret of yours that interests me. You can keep the rest of your "secrets" to yourself. What do you mean that you don't know who I am? I am the person who you have called the following names, among others: 1. A troll living under a bridge. 2. A moron. 3. An ass. 4. A phony. 5. A plant from the FBI to keep the Cooper case from being solved. So you are now admitting that you go around calling people names and don't know what you are talking about? Jo, get honest with yourself for once. What are you getting out of your Duane was Cooper charade? And remember that the chickens ARE coming home. And you are not going to get any sympathy out of me when they do. Robert99

Another lecture from the RobertMBlevins School of Journalism. Blevins, you really do need to start reading the baloney that is posted in your name. Or maybe just have whoever writes that stuff read some of it to you. Then maybe you could get back to working on your dream of writing the Next Great American Novel or, at least, the manuscript for the sequel to any movie that may or may not have ever been made. Robert99

[The original RobertMBlevins pontifications were addressed to Bruce Smith. Some of Blevins silly claims have been omitted for the sake of brevity.] Blevins writes: You are pissed off because we're working a deal on a possible film naming Kenny as the hijacker. R99 replies: You have repeatedly claimed that you don't know if KC is the hijacker or not. Now you are saying the film, if made, will name KC as the hijacker. Blevins ability to claim two different things at the same time, presumably with a straight face, is remarkable. Blevins writes: Even though we tried to assist you on your still non-existent book. An idea you rejected. R99 replies: Bruce, don't let Blevins, or any of his flunkies, "assist" you with your book in any manner. Blevins book on KC indicates only that Blevins doesn't have the slightest idea of how to do research. And his "science fiction" writings that I have read are pure garbage. Blevins writes: You are afraid we might actually be right. That is a given. And because of that, you are willing to try and do damage control by pulling every shit thing you can think of from your hat. Like Georger, and Robert99 (sometimes), you feel obligated to do that even if it hurts your credibility. You don't consider that addressing issues honesty actually ADDS to credibility, rather than subtracting from it. R99 replies: Blevins, there is no reason for anyone to fear that you might be correct about KC. Ever single person that has objectively examined KC has rejected him as being Cooper. And KC being 4 inches shorter than Cooper and having the wrong eye color are just starters. Your "research" has not produced a single thing to support your claims about KC. And that is a given. Blevins writes: Learn to distinguish what is important in the Cooper case from what is not, instead of spouting out barf in efforts to discredit...especially when you have no proof and are forced to admit you are wrong...while at the same time weaseling to the same allegations on Christiansen. Frankly, it is pathetic on your part. R99 replies: Blevins, your statements just above fit you perfectly. But you haven't learned a thing. And that makes YOU pathetic. Robert99

According to Tina (I think the actual incident is described in Tosaw's book), Cooper DID check the packing card of one of the backpacks. And apparently also checked to insure that the backpack had the proper rigger's "thread and lead" seal on the bottom ripcord pin. However, the above does NOT make Cooper an experienced jumper. It means simply that he knew how to pre-flight an emergency parachute. This plus other things that he did indicates that he was experienced in wearing emergency parachutes.

HAS IT OCCURRED TO YOU IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE CHANGING THE DATE OF SUPPOSED DOCUMENTS? WHAT I SAW IN 1979 AND IN 2001 WAS THERE AND IT IS DOCUMENTED....IN THE VANCOUVER PROPERTY RECORDS. THERE WAS WITNESSES IN 2001 - THE DOCUMENTARY CREW, BUT I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO CONTACT THEM. I NEVER VIEWED THE TAPE & HAVE NOTHING TO PLAY IT ON. ROBT99 - ARE YOU STICKING AROUND TO SEE IF THE STUFF YOU OR SOME ELSE PLANTED IS WORKING? ARE YOU WAITING FOR MY MIND TO SNAP? WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN MIND - ARE U THE SET-UP TO STAGE A COMING EVENT! I HAVE TAKEN CARE OF IT....! PRODUCE COURT HOUSE DOCUMENTS - DATED ARIELS FROM THE COUNTY & STATEMENTS FROM THE FASIOS, ALSO THE APPRAISERS OFFICE USING ACTUAL PHOTOS. GO TO WA YOURSELF TO THE RECORDS - SOME OF THE OLD RECORDS ARE NOT ON A COMPUTER & SOMETIMES THE INPUT PERSON GOT SOMETHING WRONG. THE STUFF I WAS LOOKING FOR IN WASHOUGAL - THEY HAD AN ACTUAL PICTURE OF AN OLD HOUSE I WAS LOOKING FOR IN THE ARCHIVES....but I would never have obtained that had I not been hands on and not accepting that the house did not exist. The house in Washougal on the South side of the lake - no one could l find it....but it did exist. Finally A county worker found an old archive picture ready to be destroyed...it was the house. I had the names of the family & Duane knew 2 of the boys & talked about the good times they had. I knew they existed even though Jerry Thomas told me NO. Well, I found it & then I found that one of them was still alive, but he was in a nursing home. I put together an album for him to take to his father - to see if any of the pictures jogged his memory, but he was too far gone. The son had warned me that he was really bad - but, he showed him the pictures & they passed the album around the nursing home. At least I found the family or what was left of them. If I had taken the records word on the first call & JT's claim he had looked for the records - guess what - I would never have known... Do you OWN SEARCHES & verify the sources....and talk to the records office yourself...I seriously believe you will find that the evidence (ariels of Tena's bar have been tampered with per the dates)....easy to do on a computer for those who make their living doing just that! Jo, Are you sure that you have EVER been to Tina Bar? If you feel you have been there, then please explain what led you to believe that it was Tina Bar. Robert99

Blevins, I trust that you now understand that Jo Weber is claiming that she visited Tina Bar both BEFORE and AFTER the money find in early 1980. Additionally, she is claiming that she saw a "house" (not a "shed") at a specific location on those occasions. Nevertheless, there is no such "house" showing on any photograph, aerial or otherwise, of Tina Bar from the date of the hijacking to the present day at the location she claims. Robert99

Jo, Go to Sluggo's web page and take a look at the aerial photographs he has there of the Tina Bar area that were taken on August 8, 1970, September 6, 1974, and September 29, 1979. Then come back to DZ and point out exactly what you are calling a "house" and its exact location. In addition to the above photographs, other aerial photographs of the Tina Bar area have been posted on this DZ thread over the years. If you (and Blevins also) bothered to read this thread you would already be aware of those photographs. Further, the September 29, 1970 photograph should ring a bell with you. That photograph was taken within a handful of days of your claimed visit to Tina Bar with Duane Weber in which you have suggested he buried the money at Tina Bar which the Ingrams later found. And don't claim that you have "computer problems" that prevent you from viewing these photographs. Your "computer problems" and "both feet in the grave claims" are not believable anymore. Robert99