Robert99

Oh come on, now. Do you realize how well documented Watergate is? Duane had nothing to do with Watergate. And the information on Hughes' former employee is well known. Since we can assume Meier had nothing to do with the hijacking, and neither did the Watergate conspirators...can we move on? Do you realize you have tried to associate Duane with quite a few historical figures from the 60's and early 70's? Along with a few famous conspiracies or assassinations. It's becoming ridiculous. Maybe the Watergate guys teamed up with the folks who killed JFK, MLK, and Bobby Kennedy to pull off the hijacking...then used the Cooper ransom to pay off their lower-level minions...

Jo, As you, I, and everyone else knows, Duane Weber was NOT D.B. Cooper. And it is NOT the FBI who is twisting things but, instead, it is someone posting on this thread. I think someone once said, "The Truth will make you free." Are you "ascared" of being free? Robert99 I know no such thing - In March of 1995 Duane said he was Dan Cooper. In 1979 he took me to WA and he showed the too many things and took me too many places related to Cooper. Jo, Are you certain that you and Duane didn't get interested in the Cooper hijacking when you were living in Virginia Beach, VA and several years before the March 1995 date that you mention above? Robert99

Jo, As you, I, and everyone else knows, Duane Weber was NOT D.B. Cooper. And it is NOT the FBI who is twisting things but, instead, it is someone posting on this thread. I think someone once said, "The Truth will make you free." Are you "ascared" of being free? Robert99

Blevins, My simple question is why are you so interested in Margie's personal life which, quite frankly, is none of your business? Why do you feel better qualified to look after her interests than her lawyer and banker? Margie was obviously trying to get some people out of her life and that includes you. Do you know the meaning of the word harassment? Robert99

Blevins, How could you have known the banker's position on revealing Margie's address UNLESS YOU HAD ASKED HIM? Robert99 What the hell is it with you? . . . . . To answer your question... When I heard Margie sold the property, I thought something had happened to her. I called up the bank guy and said I had heard about Margie selling her ranch and WAS SHE OKAY. . . . . . Then he told me, "Yes, she's fine. But I can't tell you where she is or anything. She requested her present location be kept a secret." I told him no problem . . . . . I never contacted him again. . . . . . You don't deserve the respect of a real answer. But I gave you one anyway. God grant me patience with people like you. Blevins, In your post #57110 above, you state that after talking to her banker, you contacted Margie's former utility company to get a copy of her last utility bill which was paid by her lawyer. Was there something on that utility bill that told you how Margie was doing health wise and financially or was it just her forwarding address that you were looking for? You did tell her banker previously that her not wanting you to know her forwarding address was "no problem". Is it just me or is your whole KC story, and its spin offs, full of baloney. And you did not give me a real and believable answer. Robert99

Blevins, How could you have known the banker's position on revealing Margie's address UNLESS YOU HAD ASKED HIM? Robert99

Blevins, By your own admission, you DID try to contact Margie again through her banker. When he wouldn't give you her current address you indicated that she could be located after a few utility bill cycles and you named your favorite service for finding such information. Robert99

Blevins, By your own previous admission, you are only investigating KC and not DB Cooper. Consequently, your claim that you are not trying to prove that KC was Cooper is, by itself, a contradiction of terms. And that assumes that you are actually trying to prove something in the first place. The FBI apparently figured out the truth about KC long before they received your first "report". And the truth is obviously that KC was NOT Cooper. A teeny bopper who witnessed something (anything!) and is now relying on a 43+ year old memory may not be the best witness. Had she ever seen a bomb prior to the claimed event? Has she seen a bomb since the claimed event? Margie's wise decision to tell her banker and lawyer to not give you her address may well be the main reason why she probably still has her money. Dream on! Robert99

Jo, You have done everything possible to hassle Georger, including claiming that he was responsible for JFK's death. If you are actually sane, you were laughing when you wrote the above quote. Robert99

Blevins, I imagine that the DZ moderators, who were probably thinking they were in charge of this thread, are going to be surprised when they find out that you are the one who determines who posts here and when. As you are well aware, the "other site" would never have been necessary if you and Jo were interested in making progress in the DB Cooper hijacking matter. Robert99

We saved Andy's life. You, not so much. Andy lives in Atlanta. That bridge is a few thousand miles away. I get messages from him about once or twice a week. He's fine. And you two are full of it. His folks simply asked him not to post at Dropzone anymore so they wouldn't get bugged by phone calls and CPS visits for no reason. I had to direct Mom to my Cooperland article and some of your history on the internet. Then she understood what really happened. And they know ALL about you, Bruce. That's why they won't take your phone calls anymore. I already communicated with mom long ago about all this via Facebook. Autistic teens can be a bit dramatic sometimes. You guys jumped all over him for weeks the second he voiced some support for Kenny as the hijacker and said he hated Geestman because he was a liar. You took advantage of the fact he was autistic, especially YOU Bruce. I saw some posts where you were baiting him with smart-ass comments. You're a real nice guy, baiting some autistic kid over Cooper and then when he cracked a bit, you tried to make yourself look like a hero. Bullshit. All you and Robert99 really did was give that kid a hard time, and then when he 'slipped,' you went after him like a couple of sharks. Both of you should be ashamed of yourselves. And his parents are now well aware of what actually happened. Neither his folks or Andy himself have high opinions about you. On that you can be assured. EDIT: I wanted to add a caveat here, smart guys. If you cared SO much about Andy's welfare instead of going for the jugular, you would NOT have posted up all that 'Report' garbage you did here at Dropzone about contacting his folks and CPS. You would have done that non-publicly. But the reality is you USED that kid for your own ends when you saw the opportunity. An opportunity you and Robert99 helped create. That is one of the lowest shit-things you've ever done. Really it is. Blevins, From your misrepresentations and outright lies above, it is obvious that you could benefit from a few sessions with a mental health professional yourself. Maybe you and Jo could get a group discount with a shrink. Both of you are apparently coming from somewhere beyond Pluto. Robert99

Blevins, My statements about Georger are CORRECT! Your silly allegations are just more of your baloney. You seem to forget that Andy had made a number of inappropriate posts here and was threatening to jump off the Tacoma Narrows bridge(s). By your own statement above, you were apparently keeping Andy's parents in the dark about what he was doing. Bruce Smith, and maybe others, informed the parents and the appropriate Child Protective Services of what Andy was doing on this thread. That seemed like a responsible thing for Bruce to do. It's unfortunate that you seem to have such a cavalier attitude toward children who threaten suicide. From everything I have seen, the FBI seems to have already decided "the merits on Christiansen". Robert99

Blevins, As you already know, Georger left this thread and closed his account here at HIS own request. And as you don't know, Georger told me about a week before he left that he was going to do so. Your continued misrepresentations about other people, as well as facts, is why this is no longer the DB Cooper thread. It is unlikely that there has been a single meaningful post on this thread about the Cooper hijacking within the last year or two. It is basically just you and Jo running your mouths on matters that you know nothing about. Robert99

An excellent observation. There will probably be several PhD Dissertations written by mental health professionals who use this thread as their major research source. Robert99 Nothing like popping by Dropzone all the time...not to discuss Cooper...but to trash either the thread itself, or other users. You haven't had a good word to say about anyone here...or contributed a SINGLE Cooper-related thing here in MONTHS. You are supposedly doing all this research. Haven't seen a single word about it. So...then why are you here? You first, Sir Robert. Bruce, you got it right. In post #56915, Blevins stated ". . . I'm not actually investigating the Cooper case, per se. I am investigating whether Kenny Christiansen was Cooper." Blevins needs to explain what he is doing at the "DB Cooper" thread. To the best of my knowledge, Blevins has done nothing on this thread to advance the DB Cooper research. Instead, he visits this thread only to criticize and has a knee-jerk reaction to every post that does not support his pet theories. And Blevins monumental ego permits him to second guess ever professional law enforcement agency that also disagrees with him. Blevins, Why don't you just stay on the "KC was Cooper" thread? Robert99

An excellent observation. There will probably be several PhD Dissertations written by mental health professionals who use this thread as their major research source. Robert99 Some of the themes they might want to develop: 1. 922 confessions 2. 1,100 suspects and a sizeable number were submitted by spouses or lovers who wanted to get rid of an ex. 3. Marla's love life 4. Jo's two-million words posted here - what keeps that girl going? 5. The Vortex 6. Did DB Cooper really escape by traveling to the future, and who thinks so? 7. Cooper came from the future to do the hijacking, then went back; his time-jumping was a gambit by Goldman Sachs to explore the futures market. Bruce, It is slightly off-topic, but the mental help people who also have an interest in economics might consider how the efforts of a certain poster to sell books, screenplays, and anything else to make a buck on this thread turned out. And did Blevins report his profits, if any, to the IRS? Robert99

Only one person in the VORTEX thinks that's even possible. 377 377, Bruce may be on to something here. It is certainly no more outrageous than some of the things proposed by this thread's "two most prominent posters". Robert99

An excellent observation. There will probably be several PhD Dissertations written by mental health professionals who use this thread as their major research source. Robert99

The ex SAS DC 9-21 (owned by the Perris Valley DZ in CA) that I jumped out of in 2006 had a Cooper Vane but it didn't stop us from jumping as the airstairs had been removed for the jump flights. I took a close-up photo of the Cooper Vane and have it somewhere. 377 The article from Wikipedia that 377 quotes (in the next message following the one quoted above) has three references which cannot be accessed from the Internet. Thus, the information cannot be independently verified easily. On August 11, 2011, Farflung (#25726 & 25731), 377 (#25730), and Georger (#25740), and other posts, discussed the subject of the Cooper vane. Farflung could not find any FAA directive mandating that the Cooper vane be installed on 727s. 377 has personal knowledge of such a vane being installed on an ex-SAS DC9-21 which is now owned and operated by USA citizens. Georger states that Boeing personnel have informed him that the Cooper vane for the 727 was their idea and was eventually approved by the FAA. Consequently, there does not seem to be any directive, either manufacturer's or FAA's, that mandates the installation of a Cooper vane on USA registered DC-9/MD-80 series aircraft. The Wikipedia article states that some airlines simply sealed the rear aft stairs and never used them again. From personal experience, the last time I remember using the aft stairs on any airliner was in the early 1980s and it was an MD-80 series aircraft. It looks like the Cooper vane does not have any final definitive information on its installation and use requirements. Robert99

That's what I love about you, Bobby, consistency. You knew very little about the DB Cooper when I first interviewed you, even though you had just written a book about Norjak and titled it: "The Truth of DB Cooper." Five years later you still revel in your ignorance and proudly claim you don't need to read the FBI's Norjak files. Can your mother explain what happened to you to cause such a lack of curiosity? Gayla? I'm seeing a pattern here - you're a No Show at all the DB Cooper Symposia and you have no anger at being denied access to the FBI files unlike other journalists. That's because I don't hang out with Cooper Royalty, and I'm not actually investigating the Cooper case, per se. I am investigating whether Kenny Christiansen was Cooper. And to do that, I don't NEED to know every minute detail on the hijacking. I just need to present the evidence that he was the hijacker. So the basic facts of the case are all I'm really concerned with. Whether I learned those years before, or along the way while investigating Christiansen and Bernie Geestman for the hijacking doesn't really matter to me. You keep bringing up Jo's accusation regarding Cossey. But we both know no one paid attention to that. No one cares about it except you. And I choose not to feed into your dumb games here at Dropzone. As far as interviews, I've been interviewed by much better folks than you, that's for sure. By better, I mean more professional. You alienate witnesses so badly you never get a second shot with them. If you feel the interviewee didn't cooperate enough for your taste, you sometimes talk badly about them. If I followed the Bruce Smith School of Journalism, I wouldn't have discovered even half of what I know about Kenny Christiansen today. Witnesses I interview don't 'owe' me anything. Neither does the Seattle FBI. I'm going to politely ASK them to do a cursory check on what we're presenting on Kenny Christiansen. And that's all.

Jo Weber Writes: Duane used to say during our marriage he had something famous named after him . . . He was talking about the Cooper Vane. Until I read Gunther's book or some other article in my research....I was unaware of the Cooper Vane. R99 Replies: The Cooper vane applies only to the Boeing 727 and no other aircraft. This is because the designers of the aft stairs on the 727 apparently made a mistake and never considered the possibility that the stairs could be lowered even during flight. The designers of the aft stairs on other aircraft did not make that mistake and the stairs on their aircraft were not capable of being lowered in flight. They were locked up and could not be unlocked in flight. However, D.B. Cooper, and not Duane Weber, was aware of this possibility on the 727 and they is why he went out of his way to make sure he would be on a 727 that afternoon in Portland. Robert99

Blevins, THE ABOVE IS PURE BULLSHIT. And it is typical of the fantasy world in which you apparently exist. Cooper was a two-bit jerk who was probably dead before 8:20 PM and before the airliner got south of Portland. He didn't save a single life. In case you haven't heard, his actions triggered a number of other hijackings in which people did die. Your efforts to make Cooper a hero are silly and based on your own wishful thinking. A glamorous hijacker hero also makes it easier for you to peddle the crap you call a book, doesn't it? For your information, prior to the start of the hijacking craze, all you had to do was buy a ticket, get on the plane, and then get off when you reached your destination. That was called air travel and it was efficient and safe. Cooper and other such wackos changed that and only perverted minds would call them heros. Robert99

Bruce, please note somewhere in your list that, despite Jo's claims, Georger was not responsible for JFK's death and that I was NOT related to Duane Weber. Robert99

Blevins, You have just pulled the rug out from under your own claims. You were seated, the other guy was probably standing 20+ feet from you, and you had nothing to reference his height to. You just guessed. Robert99

That means Lepsy was neither the first nor second coming of Duane Weber. However, Jo Weber will probably claim that Duane knew him just as she claims that Duane and I are related, that Duane knew VickiW's father, and that Georger is responsible for JFK's death. Well, Dick Lepsy was born in Chicago and lived there on and off for about 20 years. He lived in Grayling, Michigan for about a decade and supposedly ran off to Mexico and was there for an unknown amount of time. Did D-Web have any connection to any of those places? Could he have run into Dick Lepsy at the DuPont Titanium plant in Tampico, Mexico? The short answer is "no" but Jo Weber will probably claim otherwise.

That means Lepsy was neither the first nor second coming of Duane Weber. However, Jo Weber will probably claim that Duane knew him just as she claims that Duane and I are related, that Duane knew VickiW's father, and that Georger is responsible for JFK's death.