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Only if it happened to be THEIR theocracy. They'd be shit out of luck if it were one of the 10,000,000 other religions at the helm. First Class Citizen Twice Over
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How interesting. Thanks for doing that research, Rhonda. I hadn't even gone to that site. I wish I had so I would have seen that even the pedophiles note the disconnect between the two groups. Mark Harju, your contribution to this discussion has been noted, examined, and thoroughly discredited. A couple of hundred posts into a thread where I initially asked for this well-known "Militant Homosexual Agenda" has so far resulted in this many answers: Zero! One could HOPE that people would therefore stop using this ridiculous phrase from now on, but one can be quite certain they won't. It's too useful for the bigots to rile up the emotions of the sheep. Baaah! First Class Citizen Twice Over
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Yes, that is the ideal. However it does NOT appear that most people or at least enough people can perform the same minor mental gymnastics regarding gay people and pedophiles. Mark can't, at least. And neither can the rabid homophobes. First Class Citizen Twice Over
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Your point is logical and narrowly true but misses (sidesteps?) the larger issue. To call the IRA the "Militant Irish Agenda" can be read as strictly accurate as you showed above, but 99% of the people who see that phrase will incorrectly read it as stating that the entire Irish population is militant. Of course that would fit the goals of the anti-irish who will gladly encourage misunderstandings that advance their bigotry. First Class Citizen Twice Over
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Watch out... if you continue to speak clearly and reasonably like this you'll be told you're an inherently angry person. First Class Citizen Twice Over
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If a pedophile starts collecting stamps, that doesn't give him the opportunity to start speaking for the whole stamp collecting community. Who said it does? You're putting words in my mouth. I didn't mean to put words in your mouth. That was an oblique reference to Mark's position that the pedophiles speak for all homosexuals. I apologize for the lack of clarity. First Class Citizen Twice Over
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If a pedophile starts collecting stamps, that doesn't give him the opportunity to start speaking for the whole stamp collecting community. Although to be realistic, if a widespread anti-stamp-collecting spasm of bigotry swept through the public, you can be SURE those bigots would highlight that pedophile with great glee. First Class Citizen Twice Over
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oh! This is interesting. So your distinction is that if there is a militant subgroup, then their agenda is the portion of the whole that's the militant one. This is plausible. Moving forward, how do you handle the aberrant bankrobbing skydiver? Does he now control the "skydiver agenda"? And further, do skydivers have the responsibility to bring him under control? What if he's left-handed? Do left-handed people have to shut him down? What if he ate bread? Is the bakery industry now responsible? First Class Citizen Twice Over
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You poor man. I feel so bad that I just can't reach you. I've asked you to concentrate... I've put it in VERY plain language... I sincerely wonder if you're incapable of seeing what's really a simple point or if you're intentionally missing it just to look fierce. I give up slowly... too slowly. First Class Citizen Twice Over
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The misunderstandings of the victims of rapists do not define which group gets to set the agenda for all homosexuals. I know you won't get this point but maybe some other people reading this will. That says more about you than it does about skydivers. First Class Citizen Twice Over
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Sigh... I tried. First Class Citizen Twice Over
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You're missing MANY things but I suspect it's intentional. That's one thing that makes a difference. And ANOTHER thing is that this group is no more REPRESENTATIVE of gay people than a skydiving bank robber is representative of skydivers. Nobody said nabla was ok. Please, just once, try to be reasonable, philosophical, and logical. Please? First Class Citizen Twice Over
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Actually, that's EXACTLY what you did. You didn't say the words "all homosexuals are pedophiles" but you DID equate the agenda of a pedophile group with the agenda of homosexuals, which is DEFINITELY a HINT that the groups are synonymous. No, you did not provide ANYTHING about the "militant homosexual agenda". You pointed to a group which does NOT represent homosexuals WHETHER OR NOT any of its members happen to be homosexual. Many people have written really "reasonable, philosophical, and logical" posts demonstrating this. You've chosen to ignore all of them. You'll ignore this one too. I just know it. I really wish you could concentrate long enough to understand the fallacy here. I suspect you're smart enough but you just won't CONCENTRATE. First Class Citizen Twice Over
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Someone is having a little trouble with history. First Class Citizen Twice Over
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There ARE other explanations. I've responded to you MANY times with "reason, philosophy, and logic." You've ignored what I've said and gone on as if I hadn't. I can see why people would try other tactics to see if they got anywhere with you. First Class Citizen Twice Over
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And that's an excellent thing to track. In the first half of the 20th century gay characters almost ALWAYS came to a tragic end. But in the second half, happy situations started to appear. Notice Some Like it Hot in 1959 with one of my all-time favorite movie quotes: Through the 80s there grew a niche by-homos-for-homos film industry. Lots of that was grim (reflecting many of the horrors of being gay in those times.) In the last 15 years however, there's been a HUGE amount of creative activity that reflects a wider base. Many truly outstanding and charming HAPPY films come to mind, some mainstream and some niche. Be sure to find and watch: * Beautiful Thing (love story between two teenage boys in England) * Trick (the worst first date ever) * Birdcage (oh those wacky in-laws) First Class Citizen Twice Over
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I wasn't ready to go THAT far but your last post bordered on it First Class Citizen Twice Over
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There are 2 zillion threads. If you can't be bothered to say what yours is about, I can't be bothered to investigate. First Class Citizen Twice Over
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Too much effort First Class Citizen Twice Over
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That's oh so untrue. My posts in this and every associated recent thread have been entirely dispassionate. You're confusing my thoughtfulness, patience, and deep concern for anger. I can understand why you do that however. It's human nature to misidentify the unfamiliar in terms of other things that are more familiar. But be that as it may, I will one last time remind you that your comments about my personality are unwelcome. They do your already weak position a disservice. First Class Citizen Twice Over
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You might be interested in reading the book (and/or seeing the associated documentary) "The Celluloid Closet" which explores the history of gay characters and stories in film. It considers this exact question in some detail. First Class Citizen Twice Over
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What I don't remember is asking you for your opinion on my emotional life. Really, man. That's just uncalled for. First Class Citizen Twice Over
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To many people "idiot" seems to mean, "A person, no matter how well educated, intelligent, thoughtful, or successful, who disagrees with the speaker's gut feeling about something." First Class Citizen Twice Over
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With all due respect, I disagree. Ignorance is sometimes curable. Uncooperativeness is not. We see a lot of uncooperative participants here. They'll never be defeated. This helps to explain why they're uncooperative. First Class Citizen Twice Over
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And all computer professionals should change theirs to: "Even though I'm a geek I'm not an unsocialized buffoon" First Class Citizen Twice Over