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I will have to dig around in my crap, but I might have a pop top wart container and cap for a pilot chute, it will be in need of some rehab work and a good cleaning, I have to look around I know we had 3 containers and at least 2 caps, but two of the containers I can let go, not mine to give. As for the POD, there great, real space savers. You need to pull it down the crowns to fill the top, but first take a look at the main flap that comes up tp your first stows, you can see that some of the canopy will stick out that end, too much and you'll be stuffing and pounding, just the right amount and it will close easy. Just make flake it out and lay on your table or floor and split it in the middle, then fold in 3rds, S fold the canopy to fit the POD, once or twice you should get a feel for how big to make your S folds. When you get to the stab's just S flod them on top of every thing and close your locking flap. The stabs can be a bitch to keep neet the first few times you do it because you have the lines in there too but a few time trying and you'll get the hang of it. I won't be at the DZ anytime soon that I know of , but if need be I can unpack one of my PODs and take some photos of the repack to send you. I'm sure if you put it in a D-bag and into your vector you dig that set up best. But vintage sutff is great nothing wrong with shot n halfs, could always change them out to R-3. I try to make it out the the loft in the next week of so to look for the pop top & cap. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Well Villy Baaaaaance will be happy, course he's already dated most of in Northern Ga. and Bama. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Sitting sideways on troop style benches sucks ass! Unless your at level flight and we all know it's not level flight. Getting up off the floor is a lot less painful then sitting at a fucked up angle and people leaning down slope on you. If you want benches then get the half size ones that you can stradle and are centered on the floor, great for TDMS and old fucks like you & Spence! And the rest of us can have a nice padded floor!

Take out those suckass side benches and burn um and put in the nice floor mat. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Dude quit trying to be so logical and take the easy way out.....you friken old fart! you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Cossley (sp) the rigger who gave the rig to the feds, said it was a 28 ft, stuffed into the nb-6, he also said it would have made for a hard pull. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Well all of mine the crowns come out the top of the bag and stow on the outside like the lines do. Make sure it's the large # 0. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I still have a vintage set of gloves from Westguard with the tracking man logo on them, if they didn't have holes in the finger tips I would use them once and a while on retro jumps.

Oh sorry,moutain dew is so five years ago, that should read red bull or go fast. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

The really slick operators just swap out that old worn out main for the fresh new reserve and then sell it ad with a new main. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

A: Yep were all reckless & crazy all wacked out on mountain dew & blow, we all have a death wish and we drive too fast as well without seatbealts blasting loud rock n roll music token a number and drinking a beer & we all have long hair and don't shave, none of us have real jobs we just smuggle dope to pay for our addictions and toys and if you can't find your teenage daughters late on a weekend nite, their in the DZ slums being passed around and videoed for our skydiver chicks gone wild DVDs and everyone is nick named Swoop! you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Well that's the biggest problem in the sport today, is all the self serving greedy fuckheads who would lie cheat & steal and even back stab their own mother in the back to try to get ahead on a DZ or in the sport instead of earning their way like the rest of us did. All the flash in the pan's who think their the next hot shit skydiver who show up and get all the rating as fast as they can and only take, take , take and never give back, all the while scamming and taking playing politics to a new level of fucking over their so call "friends & family" and large % of new jumpers today are right there sucking their ass & pumping up their egos before they too have to dig the knife out of their back or get ripped off by the scumsucking lowlifes of the "extream generation". you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Yea I guess you guys are right, I had a long time friend ask me about buying a gift for a friend and said they found this service online. I told them hey look out for the scam call....1800 eat shit, and he said no it's not called that and sent me the link, when I opened it, it smelled just like 1- 800 eat shit website and one quick yahoo search I found those matching phone numbers. Never seen that fake page before. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Oh goodie the scam got a fresh new look, but the games the same! http://www.soaringsports.com/skydive.htm Soaring Sports (785) 759-3483 Topeka, KS & 1 800 Sky Ride (785) 759-3483 Topeka, KS Coming to a city near you. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

That's an extra 5 bucks dude. And besides that all that dust and crap in the air in SOcal & PVA and you expect your rig to be clean two weeks later..... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

What a DZO wanting to pay a fair wage to a staff position, I guess you won't be a new DZO for long. You need to study the industry and you'll see DZO's only hire young stupid kids who will work for cheap pay, enough to keep them eating ramon and PB&J and tent over their head. Get with the program. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Easy mistsake to make. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

No he wouldn't it would stick out like a sore thumb and heavy as hell too. And Quade the over cast ended at 5K according to reports, Mt. Saint Helens would stick out above the top layer as would any other such land marks, big citys might have some glow to the under layers, therefore one could have sorta of a idea where you are. We'll never know for sure, but your right cloud cover makes it a lot harder to spot, not like any of us have ever tried that.... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Jan Mayers is the wicked witch of the west. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Ah No it's Michael Truffer who is the publisher of skydiving mag and who wrote the editorial Nick DG is talking about. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I understood your point Mr. Carr. My point was how would my actions look to real jumpers, like a fool or non jumper, only if your going to try to pull this off your putting it all on the line anyway so a one parachute jump is the least of the risk in doing it. Like I said, thanks for taking the time to post here, best of luck on the case. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Doot dee doo! you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I would say no, not at night, you need to see it from the air at night in order to see what it looks like, there are points of ref. you can only see at night. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Really, you think he was a jumper? I think the FBI assumed he was NOT a jumper, because no skydiver would take a training reserve with a big X on it or pass up a sport main and reserve combo, only a non jumping retard would, in jumpers eyes. If you don't die, you getaway or get busted and being dead might beat doing life. True if it was me, I would have opened the pioneer to inspect it and repack it, can't trust the FBI to not try to kill me or my stu I might take with me out the door. However knowing I'm not taking the Stu, I would grab the sealed reserve and hope I was right, because 1. I may not have the time to repack the sport rig in order to get out at my drop zone of choice & 2. repacking a reserve is not as easy to do in between seat rows and with out the right tools (like a sport main would be), something a jumper would know as well. Again it would show later in time that he knew parachutes to the FBI and that (if he is a sport jumper) is a very small world in 1971. Again if it was me, I would do everything I could to not look like I knew what I was doing to the FBI. Also if it was me, I have built a few "walk around rigs" for training and we cut out as much crap as we can and only stuff the pack to have some bulk, if I needed a lot of strong rope, I know I could find it in the good reserve and look like a retard to the FBI and jumpers who would be asked about my actions. Not hard to do for skydivers, I have very few night jumps over Richmond Indiana, but have no doubt I could find a blacked out DZ (with in a few miles, if not damn close to right on) from the air at night from land marks and city lights alone. So for that matter he could have a fair amount of stick time a cessna 150 or 172 and be able to spot the landmarks without flying around there as military person. Hell he could have grown up around there and flew with his dad as a kid and known the lighted land marks. I have no doubt I could return to my childhood home and be able to pick out land marks at night after all these years, such as radio & TV towers, there still there and we used to land on a non lighted grass strip and you had to know how to line up on the one tower to make the strip. Just food for though and my H.O.'s. But I'm sure you have more detailsthat are not disclosed and I could be way wrong, or maybe not? Thanks again for your post and good luck in your quest. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Well I think your wrong, 1. if he takes a sport rig (assuming he knew it was) that tips off the FBI he is a jumper. 2. He can't be sure what is in the Pioneer rig and needs to count on a one shot at it opening and a bail out rig would provide a better chance of not having a mal. 3. He never opened the rigs as far as we know to repack them. I would have, to CYA and a jet has the room to do it. 4. He needs strong rope to tie the money bag, the good reserve had it, and the fake one might or might not have, as a jumper yes the X would stand out and to me I wouldn't waste the time to mess with my plan, I would go to the good one and cut the 550 cord out of it. I would also throw out the dummy chest container, for the simple fact that in 1971 skydiving was very small world, the more I make you think I don't know what the hell I'm doing the better. So I take the NB6 and the chest marked X, it tells you I'm not a jumper. 5. 550 is very strong and if tied the right way that jet blast is not going to rip it off him unless it cut him in half. 6. You assume too much, that a jet jump like that wouldn't be survivable. If this person was a jumper in the military and or sport, he would know how to exit the back and ride out the wind blast and tumble through it, slow down, roll over, get stable & pull. An exit from 10K would provide ample time to do so. I'm not even so sure your right about his military service. I too think he was in the service, only in S.E. Asia between 1965 & 1970 and was a special forces / black op's trained, a person not worried about the odds being against him and having the skills to make it over night in the weather and hide from ground searchers with ease. He had jump exp. and knew better then to take the good stuff to keep you (FBI) guessing. I think he had no problem finding the ripcord and pulling it, another reason to take the chest marked X was for fabric to use as cover or warmth or a tent and to keep you thinking he was a retard. It would make sense to bury all the canopies and containers, that is what airborne and special forces operating behind the lines would do to cover their "footprint". If he got away with it and lived I think he went back to S.E. Aisa and has been there the whole time minus the 5k that was found, planted or dropped. I don't think this was a half assed plan by a wuffo who didn't think out his every move. This is one reason why I find it hard to believe D. Webber was cooper, based on his past troubles with the law tends to show his just not that bright and able to pull it off without getting busted. I doubt this is one of the canopies from that night, although I will wait to see your findings as you have all the details at hand. Thanks for taking the time to post your views, I like many others look forward to your findings that might prove us all wrong! Good luck. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo