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How about somebody from the Hanford site that was laid off in 1971 ?

got a url ?

The only reason a hijacker would nourish his accomplishment is (a) he survived, (b) he still has money gained, and (c) he feels he is safe from arrest/prosecution. Any other sane person would stay under cover and not be making overt gestures to communicate, make calls to reporters and book writers, or reveal in any way his identity or his whereabouts. McCoy was mentally disturbed and telegraphed-bragged. Moreover Ckret says he is sure Cooper had ADD. Nobody knows if Cooper was even alive to be making telephone calls! Until the basic facts are known everything else is just Halloween decoration/celebration. Was Gunther an opportunist exploiting an unknown? Ckret brought to the table some professional experience in robbery investigation - looking for bank robbers and everything in his training that goes along with that profession. When Ckret says he wonders if Cooper wasnt ADD, I have to sit here and wonder about that based on Ckret's professional experience. Why was Gunther investigating the case? To what end compared with an FBI Agent like Ckret. I have to ask that basic question. What would Gunther and Ckret talk about? Do they have anything in common!? Would Gunther be interested in Na vs Ca levels in Cooper money diatoms? I doubt it! But, he would spend his time talking shop with Jo Weber...

Good! Glad you found that!! There is another like this but I have no link to it .... good post.

1980 March – Tosaw announces: “I have retired. I am now interested in the DB Cooper case. I may write a book about the Cooper case…” [Daily Iowan interview re- Nile Kinnick plane, March 1980 ] Prior to 1980 Tosaw didnt have a theory of the Cooper case. Tosaw was focused on finding Glenn Miller and Nile Kinnick's planes, and raising them, and property development in Iowa City, Iowa. The Ingram find in 1980 came to Tosaw's attention - Tosaw called his brother Mike Tosaw (an FBI Agent later assigned to Seattle) to get his take on the Cooper case ... The book Tosaw finally produced does not lay out the evolution of Tosaw;s ideas and actions which developed over many years. Tosaw juggled a whole spectrum of ideas over time based largely on his river dragging results and running conversations Tosaw was having with other people ... Tosaw came to believe (and announced) that Cooper's body and the money bag lay upstream of Tina Bar and there was a $200,000 dollar payday to be had! He solicited funding for dragging the river near Caterpillar Island on that basis. When nothing turned up he solicited help from the public [newspaper ads] and J. Powelson at the Portland Dive Shop shifting his focus to wing dams and shoreline debris piles, all upstream of Tina Bar. These river searches were supplemented by land searches in the Columbia basin. 1980 Feb-April - “ …money discovery prompted Tosaw to start calling the Portland FBI office – drove us crazy handling his calls so we assigned someone to take his calls …” [Portland FBI agents]. Also began calling the Seattle office and may have found a better reception there since Tosaw’s brother, SA Mike Tosaw, worked at the Seattle Office. Seattle Agent Hamil is quoted as saying ‘Tosaw may have a viable theory. Because the money was found along the Columbia, Mr. Tosaw figures Cooper came down further south than the area the FBI thought he landed.” Tosaw begins calling Purdy, Powelson, salvage people, etc to get their ideas on the Cooper case …. By the Fall of 1980 Purdy convinces Tosaw to supplement river searches with land searches. [see newspaper articles] Tosaw generally believed that the money at Tina Bar had been deposited there by the dredging work in 1974. Tosaw believed Cooper's body was IN the Columbia river. That he landed somewhere between Hayden and Caterpillar Islands, either in the Columbia or close to the river, but his body with the money bag were somewhere just upstream of Tina Bar. A few ground searches were launched on the advice of Agent Purdy but his main focus was on dragging the river and inspecting wing dams upstream of Tina Bar. He thought that the money on Tina Bar was the result of the dredging work done by the Corps in 1974 which might have snagged the money bag, tied around Cooper's body. Seattle thought his ideas were interesting because Tosaw was the first semi-official person to seriously suggest Cooper had bailed further south along the flight path, than originally thought. Tosaw was taken seriously by many people and his credibility was finally proven when he and divers found Nile Kinnick's plane ... and he had another theory and search zone for Glenn Miller's plane.

Where have you been? Tosaw stated to the media multiple times he thought Cooper landed in the river .... near enough to Tina Bar (Caterpillar Island) that it accounted for the money found on Tina Bar. That is why he dragged and searched this area for years ... Likewise, your other piece of propaganda is not generally accepted either -

Nicky, FJ, etc .... when you form your new forum with a Sluggo-type Archive ... if you want the complete WSHM-Harrison file, I have it if you cant get from WSHM or elsewhere. Just thot I would offer it .... Good luck.

I HOPE SO! WOULD REJUVENATE EVERYTHING ... might be able to answer a lot of standing questions.

Thank you! The big news today, I guess, is there will now be three DB Cooper forums! DZ has kicked Blevins off at long last. Shutter will keep his site open. Chaucer will be the new MOD there. Good for Chaucer! And no. 3, Nickyb233 and Flyjack etal will start a new site called WikiCooperpedia??? which will have the old Sluggo files. Do I have that correct? I think so. Good luck to all. But thank you DZ for finally seeing the light and acting ...

Huh ?

The disruption in the Maldum Fornax is newsworthy and a major accomplishment in La-La Land ! Only crazy people can follow it all. . .

Keep up the good work! Breath of fresh air !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you see the chiefs last night ? !!!

Ive wondered about that myself - suburbs of Portland. Strangely enough, nobody has bothered to ask Rataczak what 'surburbs' means to him. He's the one who made the statement, and of course he was speaking as a pilot from a pilot's perspective. Suburb is tantamount to periphery - ie not the center one is moving toward. My grandmother lived at Vancouver and she referred to Portland as the 'center' of the 'city'. I just find it strange R was never asked to explain. Maybe people understood what he said and meant!

And Nicky B is Dr Edwards? The British guy with the new book ?

In this vid, who is the guy in the white pants and socks, in his house with a recliner chair and plastic tray of stuff next to the chair? He is playing this recording recently to make a video - correct? where did he get this audio tape - why does HE have this audio tape? Is he ex-CIA, FBI, or Adventure Books staff ?

In one of her interviews, Pat mentioned using Clorox and detergent while trying to clean the bills in the sink ........ there wasnt time for details or elaboration.

My personal bias, like Sluggo', is that Cooper had some experience as an air traveler. In his discussions with Tina he references several instances of traveling by air as his observations (in WA and MN) of ground markers. Does Cooper know when a plane is making a turn ? Does any passenger know? In the case of the BTG Vortac/called PDX Vortac in 71, could Cooper have sensed that turn? Has Cooper traveled V23 before and knows the turns? .............................. in any event, he may have already jumped before the old PDX Vortac. But there is little question that Cooper was an air traveler based on his own statements. And there is no evidence that documents Cooper had a cheap compass, as per Sluggo's speculations.

A search on BTG Vortac has many returns so ... Robert99 #19154 November 3, 2010 Further, there is not one bleeping fact to support the idea that the airliner passed over the Battleground VORTAC (which was known as the Portland VORTAC at that time) or east of the BTG VORTAC. In fact, going over or east of the BTG VORTAC doesn't make sense in the first place. Such a route simply does not pass the smell test. Robert

... light pollution history of the area

Here's another version .... sky pollution map prepared by NASA.

Have no idea where you got yours - mine is NASA (1960/1970/......

Ulis who ?

Facts mean nothing to Ulis ... its the production that matters. Guess he dropped out of the congress race, so he has plenty of time to fill .. . image is everything.

When you have nothing make up a new story and goal ... to stay in the social media. Its called 'staying in the game'. It keeps the game going. At some point winnings vs losses determines a new game/tactic. Its all about Ulis. Spectators must stay in the game to decide later if it has anything to do with - Ulis vs DB Cooper! We had Colbert. Its now Ulis. Its an internet soap opera with tv productions to come ... stay tuned. This may have something to do with DB Cooper, or not! Keep up your membership to find out... two to five years to go! With weekly updates along the way. KEEP THE GAME GOING! YOU CAN WIN!