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YOU ARE SO very behind the TIMES - LARRY CARR has NOTHING to do with the COOPER case. NONE - IOTA!. I wouldn't piss in a bottle for Larry Carr - he has NO jurisdition in the Cooper CASE. You immediate reaction to me and to Blevins - shows how disoriented you are and how corrupt your mind is....anything you are involved in I want NOTHING to do with...because everywhere you go you disrupt lives and only for your benefit. Im glad you finally decided to be you! And speak from your heart as you really are. It defines what your whole agenda has been from the start. You really are a lot like Duane. It is almost like having Duane here, to read!

I don't understand this. McCoy was killed when? 74-75? Duane didn't become a suspect until what...twenty years later? What the heck are you talking about? The above looks very superficial to me, especially when combined with the fact you dont know why Virginia would be relevant ? I hope Jo doesnt give you any surprises, as it applies to AB's agenda.

Lying to the FBI is a felony. I don't think the FBI thinks Jo lied to them, just that her conclusions about Duane being DBC were incorrect. I'll be amazed if you get the FBI to administer a polygraph exam to Jo. 377 It does NOT make any difference what anyone says to him. This is why I stopped communicating with him in 2001 - he is crazy and it is his way or NO way. If you prove to him the rock is gray he will tell you it is red. We ALL know he has NO say in what the FBI can say or do. WE know the FBI is NOT going to authorized a test on me or any other witness who comes forward regarding Cooper. We know a polygraph will prove nothing. We know I could not be prosecuted for any crime even if I failed every question they asked me. We know I have not kept anyone form coming forward - infact the suspect calls increased since I went public in 2000 not the other way around. All he has done is make a spectacle of himself. If I could be procecuted for coming forward on a suspect - NO one would ever come forward on any suspect ever again...that is NOT logical. Jerry doesn't understand logic. If the FBI really wanted me to go away - they could do that real easy - open Duane's lifes file and show me and everyone else what they have on Weber with NO blank spaces. This means they have to fill in the yrs, because if they haven't been able to do that - then they haven't been able to prove he wasn't Cooper. To me one of the most important aspects was the actual prints made each time he was arrested...no more using 1944 prints - show me prints made in 1960, 1966, 1976 and 1979 and 1990. SHOW ME...Prints made at other times - not in 1944. The FBI has a reason they used the 1944 prints and why they have stalled - now all prints of Duane Weber upon more recent encarcerations have now been destroyed...Explain how and why he was encarcerated and commuted as John Collins if the prints matched Duane L. Weber? That is not logical. "This kind of reply is so typical of you Jerry - you have reduced this thread to mindless gibberish." whose gibberish? whose 2837 posts of . . . ?

You name it they had me on it. No they didnt. Or you would be dead!

No need for all the rest to come in with the name calling so I am not even going to post the reason I came back tonight. You have been the one name calling and spewing venom, for weeks. Get that straight for once. BTW, I talked to this 'Donna' late last week. It just happened. What she called you I wont repeat here, but she spoke freely about you, and it wasn't good. She did call Jerry an "asshole" but then she said laughing, "He knows me. I expect him back and he's welcome". That's what Donna said to me. Call her up or have one of your snoops call her up, and verify. You will. As for your 'arrangment' with Blevins - be careful. I think he brought you in for a specific reason. You are the ringer. Galen will have no part of this. I wonder why!

well, thats the first definitive statement on your part regarding Jo Weber, since I joined this thread. Im perplexed. I thought you were smarter. Guess not. Jo has already divided this thread until there is no thread. That has always been one of her goals. If she cant control the thread she then states the thread is over or coming down, as if the thread was hers (and yours)? Dont bother to post to me again.

dont feed the troll ?

How much reward are you offering? $2.00 ? Picture of item attached. ??? Where? You forgot to attach "Picture of item", or did you never say this too? [edit] Never mind ... you have now attached it. if you dont deny it?

Are you going "in-cog-neat-o? Your are banned there, you know! Thats nonsense. You obviously havent talked to Donna recently! You dont even live in Washington - how in hell would you know?

well . . . I am less ambitious, as you know. a journey of a 100ft begins with a single step.

well, my point is Tina's Story may very easily be worth what a vanGogh, Picasso, Klimt, or even that hoary Pollock Ive been looking at here all these years is worth ... ? and some "piker" comes along and offers $100? Is that a reflexion of the actual world economy or just a reflexion of the person making the offer and is the person's offer also a reflexion of what the person knows 'her story' is worth ? .... $100, discounted to $35 at the starving artist Cooper table along I5 near the bridge? Does the seller even have a permit to buy and sell ? Has her fish been inspected as safe to consume and sell!? That $100 offer may reflect what actually is going on inside that 10th Level in Hell ? Maybe you have to be a physicist to see this? Values tend to float on the 'underlying undisclosed assessed value' a person has, which only that person knows! People offering $100 for a property worth far more are not likely to have great value in their own collections? People tend to offer values based on their own true worth? (newtonian mechanics) Jo offering $100 for Tina's contact info, is either an insult or an absurdity. It reflects Jo's assessment of the value of her own story. Who would have sold Tina's contact info to Jo for $100 when they could call almost any major medium and get $1000-$5000 without even trying?

We always knew there was a 10th circle - just could not prove it. What of an 11th and 12th? And the amazing thing is, admission is cheap! Only $100. The value Jo set for Tina's contact info. Porteous charged Lyle what? $500? $700? USNews presumably paid Pasternak ? . . . Who pays Tina? Does Tina ever get paid!?

George can pass anything to you then I will pass directly to R99 or you can. Or, George can call me and I will pass directly to R99. Either way. Whatever works. You have R99's email. George could email R99 directly. I am sure R99 would not care. Give George my regards. He has my number but not my email. Thanks Jerry. G.

The polygraph . Here is what you asked for - attached. The link no longer works. G

... the story did NOT change - it improved, Oh it improved alright! Like an acorn becomes an oak forest, of bad loans.

No problem. Call me tonight ... the coffee pot is on. Hope all is ok up there. Had family in all weekend so wasnt available. G.

When and Why would I make statements like this. I do not believe I have EVER said either of those phrases. Please provide your source. YOUR SOURCE states what I have always claimed; [red]"If Duane Weber was NOT Cooper he sure as Hell, knew who was." This statement is made because of the physical evidence I held in my own hands (ticket, stub and bag). I have never used the words THOUGHT HE KNEW or OR THAT DUANE THOUGHT McCoy was Cooper. You have yet to produce a post I where I have made those statements. Use your brilliant mind to note the statements have different meanings. If I ever made the statements you are proclaiming I made - and YOU can pin point the source - perhaps I might have an explanation by reading prior posts or you are taking someone else's altered posts quoting my words which have been altered. FIND these in A POST made BY me. I could make a post and alter YOUR words with quotations, but that does NOT make it YOUR words. Such as I could state something as ridiculous as Georger said "The sun is going to explode" and state it was a quote by you. How would you feel? YOU would want the source to PROVE you made the statement, because your credibility could and would be damaged if it was allow to continue. i HAVENT ALTERED A DAMNED THING! TRY YOUR TACXTICAL BULLSHIT ON SOMEONE ELSE. Your words are: "If Duane was not Cooper he sure as Hell knew who was". I have said that since day one - it is in the communications I had with Doug Pasternac and with Ralph H. All it does is explain the items I held in my hands - the airline ticket, the stub and the bag. " If Duane "sure as Hell knew who was". , then who did he know of, check out, and drove by his house, pointed out to you in the car etc. ... who had been alleged by some to be Cooper? You know the answer as well as I do. The reason you will not admit to this is: you want Duane to have been Cooper. You morphed the myth. And I have solid reason to believe you have told people about this through the years. And you definately said: "If Duane was not Cooper he sure as Hell knew who was". It had nothing to do with supposed evidence you claim you were holding in your hands. It has to do with you and Duane looking McCoy's house up and driving by it (numerous times?). The whole world knew McCoy might have been Cooper. It was in every newspaper for years. It was common knowledge at Virginia Beach, and there is no way to deny that. Duane and you loved 'impersonation' and you still do! You slipped up Jo. Thats what happens when your tactics run ahead of your truth (of which you have none - no evidence, just claims). BY THE BY - That Jerry Thomas and I happen to be posting simultaneously about this is pure coincidence. We come from totally different directions - we have not discussed our posts or communicated in any way. Its just two people approaching Jo's stories from totally different directions, each from his own experience. That should be obvious to anyone (but Jo Weber).

When and Why would I make statements like this. I do not believe I have EVER said either of those phrases. Please provide your source. YOUR SOURCE states what I have always claimed; [red]"If Duane Weber was NOT Cooper he sure as Hell, knew who was." My source is .......... YOU! YOUR OWN WORDS! Again, here is your post below: READ IT! skyjack71 PM Friend Jumps License In sport : : : Feb 20, 2011, 2:23 PM Post #22401 of 22427 (322 views) Copy Shortcut Registered: Nov 12, 2006 Posts: 2812 Re: [georger] Attention: Jerry T [In reply to] Quote | Reply -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "If Duane was not Cooper he sure as Hell knew who was". I have said that since day one - it is in the communications I had with Doug Pasternac and with Ralph H. All it does is explain the items I held in my hands - the airline ticket, the stub and the bag. This is why I impressed on the FBI to look at Duane's background in a little more detail. I will borrow Knosses expression here "If you find my wife, you will find me". Now apply that to what I know is the truth regarding the items Duane was in possession of. If you find Weber's past you will find Cooper. If you think I am just hanging around and stuck here - What are you doing here and why is Jerry here? Why is anyone here? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Copyright©2009 by Jo Weber (This post was edited by skyjack71 on Feb 20, 2011, 2:33 PM)

When? On Feb 20, 2011, 2:23 PM in your post directly above - confirms the first part. The amazing thing to me, Jo, is that ANYONE ever gave you 2 minutes of their time. This includes Ralph Himmelsbach, the FBI, and Jerry Thomas. There is definately something wrong with that! You have never presented one proven fact. Your whole story has been "tactics" from day-1. Tactical BS and nothing but tactics. No facts about anything. Not one of your promised "revelations" or impending "revelations" has EVER COME TRUE. The 15 year clock has run out on you, Jo. In my humble opinion, you and Duane concocted a myth, or you did following Duane's death, and that is all there is. Everything else has been tactics on your part. The only truth in your tales are the tactics-of-the-moment meant to get you through to the next day. Nothing you have said since the beginning, has anything to do with the real Cooper hijacking case. That you managed to take so much of people's time is a story of tactics and promotion on your part ........ and little more. Good luck, Mythmaker. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Your post above: skyjack71 PM Friend Jumps License In sport : : : Feb 20, 2011, 2:23 PM Post #22401 of 22425 (286 views) Copy Shortcut Registered: Nov 12, 2006 Posts: 2811 Re: [georger] Attention: Jerry T [In reply to] Quote | Reply -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "If Duane was not Cooper he sure as Hell knew who was". I have said that since day one - it is in the communications I had with Doug Pasternac and with Ralph H. All it does is explain the items I held in my hands - the airline ticket, the stub and the bag. This is why I impressed on the FBI to look at Duane's background in a little more detail. I will borrow Knosses expression here "If you find my wife, you will find me". Now apply that to what I know is the truth regarding the items Duane was in possession of. If you find Weber's past you will find Cooper. If you think I am just hanging around and stuck here - What are you doing here and why is Jerry here? Why is anyone here? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Copyright©2009 by Jo Weber (This post was edited by skyjack71 on Feb 20, 2011, 2:33 PM)

Robt. stop the promotions. Gutt's actual words are: ""There are other individuals currently believed to be more viable suspects..." I pointed this out to you the minute you posted Gutt's reply ... you chose not to reply, preferring instead to say the same thing later, as if it was your realisation. Did you personally write the FBI's reply for them?

I have always said that "If Duane was not Cooper he sure as Hell knew who was". I have stated that from day one . But you called JT a liar last week for stating what you now admit you said. You said you never said that... The problem is Jo, when you call people liars, then it turns out you told Ralph the same thing, you told __________ the same thing, and others who I personally knew. Jerry Thomas was the least of those you made statements to. So, what is your jihad about? And does it even matter? Did it ver matter? The world has since moved on while you have spent years posting on the Internet the same old jihad.

I was questioning how valid it is to believe that someone's entire life, or at least his entire presence on this thread, has only one aim and that that aim revolves around you. Especially when it is patently obvious from even a cursory reading of his posts that that is not true. That is where the reference to either egoism or persecution complex came in. -- btw, it's not exactly like you've never threatened anyone here ... even if those threats don't carry as much weight as you had hoped (recent ones i can recall are the threats to 'expose' the location of jerry's mine, and the hundreds of lawsuit threats that 377 patiently and tirelessly tells you are without merit) It was Jo who was married to Duane, not us. At the end of the day that is all that matters in this. Duane Weber was not DB Cooper.

Are you kidding? Do you know how much research and effort it takes to cast a major motion picture properly these days? And some of these stars are a pain in the ass to deal with. Real prima donnas, you know what I mean? It's a thankless job. We've having second thoughts on Laura Linney as Tina Mucklow. Could be an age problem. Linney is over 40 now. We're leaning toward Hilary Swank. Its a MOVIE Blevins! GET OVER IT! Its not scholarly research, which you will never do for lack of personal resources, or any personal interest in. Go make a movie. Who cares! Get over yourself. Most people will get over and beyond the movie almost as soon as you (or whoever) makes it. The MOVIE will be replaced by a 10cent piece of paper with a few lines on it, written by a sixth grader! That is how real commerce works! Or did you not know? Put a muffler on yourself -and drive in your own lane.

I'm trying to decide whether this sounds more like sheer arrogance/egoism, or the more difficult problem of a persecution complex. ---------------------------------------------------- Well the facts in this matter are very clear: (a) it was Jo Weber who contacted people in Washington and went there - not the reverse, in those early years. (b) Jo Weber is the one who began this debacle with hundreds of phone calls to all kinds of people in the beginning, just as she has saturated DropZone with all of her verbage. JT and others (including the FBI!) have always been complete bystanders in Jo's whole process. (c) Here is exactly what Jo said in the beginning, in her own words, no less - as posted by Jo her self here at Drop Zone. Quote: " I have always said that "If Duane was not Cooper he sure as Hell knew who was". I have stated that from day one. " (Nov 12 2008) There it is. JO NOW DENIES SHE EVER SAID THIS! In the beginning or otherwise. Well there it is, in Jo's own words. . . certified by Jo herself on Nov 12, 2008. And there are other examples in Jo's own posts at this and other forums which say the exact same thing, ie. 'that Duane thought he knew who Cooper was'. Duane thought Cooper was McCoy. He and Jo got involved in the McCoy case when they moved to Virginia Beach. It was probably through the McCoy mythology at Virginia Beach that Duane and Jo first heard of DB Cooper! Jo needs to be very careful in how she replies to this, because Jo has denied ever knowing about Cooper prior to Virginia Beach. Where would I get that idea? Once again, from Jo's own posts here at Dropzone and elsewhere. The truth may be that Jo and Duane were living very isolated lives (marginalised due to Duane's criminal past and lack of opportunities), when they moved to Virginia Beach. Something in their life at Virginia Beach brought McCoy to their attention .... and from that to the DB Cooper legend. I get this picture from Jo's own posts she has made ever since becoming active on the Internet. In prior writings Jo has said Duane never read books and she herself 'was too busy to give worldly matters much thought' ? Duane did read newspapers however, she says. Jo has never said if she read newspapers at Virginia Beach or not, in her "busy" life.? Jo's whole history in these matters is one set of claims, then retreat and new claims, more retreats then new claims, ad infinitum. Jerry Thomas is correct. Jo is a history of claims and revisions, until finally nobody could follow it, with Jo trying to claim some consistency through it all. The problem is: only Jo can see that! Nobody else can who matters. Jo has even gone so far as to claim Duane changed his finger prints! In response to this Ckret answered on Dec 10, 2007, saying: "How do you come to the conclusion that your husband changed his fingerprints? May I have documents or evidence that reveals this. What documents do you have that point to corruption at Jefferson Correctional? May I have them. The research that you and the journalist conducted that points to your husband's criminal history being different then what is on record, do you have that for review? Thanks for any help. Ckret" Jo's spurious claims are endless. That has been the case almost since the beginning. Jo's voluminous posts here at DZ testify to that fact. And Jo charges JT with having "damaged" the Cooper case ? Why on Earth would Jo jump on Jerry Thomas fpr saying: "you said you thought Duane knew 'who' Cooper was..." when in fact Jo said the same exact thing herself right here on DZ, quote: " I have always said that "If Duane was not Cooper he sure as Hell knew who was". I have stated that from day one. I am cleaning house and old files. You will be interested to know that although the FBI claims to have done an extensive background check on Duana Weber the following information is recorded and stated. As of a post in March 2000 the FBI denied that Duane was EVER at McNeil and stated he was never in the army. They are on record as stating that the number on his military records belonged to a Wavy Greene. Does that sound like a thorough FBI check of Duane L. Weber? I frankly think the FBI needs to let the public know WHEN they did this background check...and why the agent of record before March 2000 had told me these things. I told the agent he had not done a check of Duane because I was holding the papers from McNeil and a letter written from a Army post. Just want to refresh the mind of those who have not followed this from day one. We NOTE a strange thing - the FBI has never STATED - which hand Cooper held his cigarrette in. Statement made by ex-wife "I didn't go to Portand with him --- I was at my sisters in Lorranine". I dont' know what time span she was referring to...I knew then but not now. Question - what was Duane doing in Portland???? Note that one of Duane's ex's worked for an airport and we never found Daisy Schuler - a wife of record. Date of birth on the McNeil Prison file is June 18, 1920. Duane was born in 1924 or 1925. That same month I am on to the Fire Jumpers and the near calamity at Hanford E Works in WA. Then on to Operation Firefly - so you see my chasing Fire Fighters started in the very beginning - I have articles dating 1997 and 1998 when I was allowed to do searches in the office after everyone had left. I jump off into some firefighting episodes - such as 1945 Klamath National Forest in CA. Where was Duane in July of 1945? That is something for the FBI. Communications with someone from Duane's past -- every time Chigago and "a specific name" came up in a conversation the subject changed abruptly - with "I do not want to go there". Mc Neil prisoners where used in the logging industry????? Coffelt is reported as being in the Phoenix, AR area in July of 1960. Remember Duane's connections to Phoenix in the 60's. Brown was in the Sandy Springs area where Duane lived. Coffelt met Brown in Atlanta. My research showed a Coffelt in the Canon City, Co prison but unknown if related to the suspect Coffelt. Dated 3/2000. The Coffelt/Brown thing has been with me from the beginning.. (This post was edited by skyjack71 on Nov 12, 2008, 7:10 PM)

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