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Blevins, I do know how to read. Your statement begins: "Remember what happened after they found the money? The FBI changed their stance on the hijacking...." The FBI begins: "'Or perhaps Cooper didn’t survive his jump ..." It's PERHAPS (FBI) vs. REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED (Blevins). The FBI statement is a statement of conjecture. Yours is a statement a fact. Or did we have different English teachers? The FBI statement goes further to say the cojjecture-theory was enhanced with the discovery of money at Tina Bar, but, they do not explain how their theory is enhanced. Larry went on to explain it saying: (a) Cooper would not easily have parted with his money therefore he must have died and relinquished control - which is contradicted by what he did offering money to the stews saying "I dont want it". and (b) (there is no B). But the real objection here is the same as before: You consistently write statements as fact, which turn out to be suppositions. It does not matter whose suppositions they are. Suppositions are supositions. You claim to be doing research but research demands supposition be separated from fact - that is what research is all about. You claim to know what research is, in fact you charge others with not doing their research, then it turns out it is you not doing research and, you may not even know what research is, or you are willing to suspend it for the sake of writing a Headline? These issues may not concern you or the FBI, but they concern me. I am a teacher, and a researcher.

http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/oldnews/archives/188 The local paper in Minneapolis posted the flight crews' addresses in their story about the hijacking. I caught that also - a relative of mine with the FBI just shit when he saw that. What was on their minds!? It seemed to reflect a sense of personal isolation at the time, something no one would take for granted today. Odd indeed. A violent felon is on the run. A victim can ID him. A newspaper then prints her home address. Shessh! Maybe the FBI convinced everyone that Cooper had cratered for sure, but as I recall it took some time for that conclusion to be aired. Sure, Tina's address might have been in the phone book, but this sure gave someone with a motive to silence her a big head start. 377 Kind of like publishing every code to every bank in town. Once published it cant be retracted. Somebody was rolling ball bearings in his fingers and thinking 'strawberries' when that happened. I think you know what Im referring to -

http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/oldnews/archives/188 The local paper in Minneapolis posted the flight crews' addresses in their story about the hijacking. I caught that also - a relative of mine with the FBI just shit when he saw that. What was on their minds!? It seemed to reflect a sense of personal isolation at the time, something no one would take for granted today.

The point has been raised before, but do you think it's consistent with the way Cooper was described as acting by the stews? Of course even if Cooper didn't know who she was before the crime, he definitely would have known after ... if he survived. Its a very cogent thought, imho. Ive asked the same thing many times. That kind of thing can deplete a person very quickly, and there is no cure until the 'bastard' is caught. That is at the very core of why so many do not want Cooper seen as some kind of 'hero'. I would have done everything in my power to keep her from being held in the back of that plane with Cooper ... I would have told that bastard _________________________________ or you can fly your own ass out of here! McCoy got rough with people. It's easy for me to say, . . . I wasn't there!

Tina may have been the best witness 40 years ago. That doesn't mean she is the best witness now, and that's not any reflection on her state of mind, but simply a well documented fact on the unreliability of eyewitnesses, even a short time after the fact... as has been posted a number of times. You saw that guy that had been convicted of rape that was recently freed on DNA evidence? The victim ID'd him. Presumably he was convicted because the jury figured she had to be the best witness, and that wasn't even 40 years after the fact. Time compression, trauma immediately after - lots of things to consider. Putting Tina aside one look at Rat's face in interviews he has done, shows the stress. Best witness? My frank opinion is, what some of these socalled journalists are actually seeking is to become "best witness" (for) themselves, and then we could just dispense with all of the actual participants .... and just consult the journalists instead, experts they have become and claim to be! If I were Rat I would run too! Hell I might move to New Zealand.

Nope. 377 Thats a relief!

Do you think Delta is in danger of harming itself? Have all of the 305 crew been brainwashed? Was Cooper bombarded by dangerous gamma rays from Sputnik as an adult?

I see your fascination with Mucklow as peculiar. Some people would take your level of interest ands remarks you have made as 'celebratory' and a red flag? I think you need to define the reason for your 'special interest' in Ms. Mucklow. But, there is another aspect to this I find interesting. Your 'special interest in Tina Mucklow' is noted. Cooper chose Tina and gave her HIS special interest. Does your interest in Tina reflect a commonality which tells us something revealing about Cooper? Birds of a feather, as it were? Perhaps you could shed light on this coincidence. What precisely is it you think you and you alone can DO for Ms. Mucklow that everyone else in her life is failing to do, or Mucklow is not doing for herself, does not see to do, or has not done already? You keep saying you see Tina is at risk of some kind. What is there about celebrities you find so compelling? Do you think Ms. Mucklow is another Barb Dayton and needs your rescue or special attention the rest of the World is failing to understand or give? What is the object of your special mission with regard to Ms. Mucklow? You keep talking about her welfare and safety and claiming she is at risk from herself or others. You see Blevins as having a common interest and concern, with you? Have you talked to Blevin's wife Gayla about this? You already talked to Tina's relatives about this. Have you expressed your concerns to Rataczak or others who have a more direct affiliation ?

So where did all that money KC threw around come from? Matt mushroom sales?

I don't know. Skipp Porteous investigated her thoroughly and spoke to some family members. I have spoken to one of Tina's nieces. The whole thing is messed up, and that's too bad. Really. She's the best witness, IMHO. I get bummed thinking about it. That stuff I said previously was true. She should go public with something, if she can, but the truth is I don't know IF SHE CAN. What precisely, in your opinion, could Tina give now she didnt already give long ago (several times over in successive interviws with the FBI)? What do you know & see that is unique? What does Tina know now she didnt know before? What could Tina do today she didnt already do or could not do before? Does she have Cooper's dna? Does she have the Palmer Report? Does she have the flight path and drop time? Does she have forensics on the money? Is Tina dying to have coffee tea and me, with you!? Does Tina need your psycholpogical insight/ therapy? Does Tina need a book from AB? Does AB need a photo and signature from Tina? Does anything you and Porteous have about Tina make any significant contribution to the Cooper case? What else is at stake that makes you post about Tina incessantly that I fail to see? Will Bruce solve his personal problms through Tina? Will Tina make some one some money? What is it?

Blevins you have said a lot of dumb things in this forum: This below is the best so far. "wide-eyed stew who dallied with Cooper." Dallied with Cooper? Wide-eyed stew? Your knowledge of Tina Muckow surpasses Bruces', surpasses the FBIs', surpasses the Smithsonians', surpasses Jennifer Anniston's. As you "dally" here with us stuck between space and time and the Men's Room. The telling point which totally escapes you in life, is Tina Mucklow does not post here, never has and never will, but you do! What does that tell you?

and who shall cleans who and inform who of MKULTRA in thy tabernacle? for it is written: 40 And there came a leper to him, beseeching him, and kneeling down to him, and saying unto him, If thou wilt, thou canst make me clean, and inform me of thy secrets. 41 And Jesus, moved with compassion, put forth his hand, and touched him, and saith unto him, I will; be thou clean. 42 And as soon as he had spoken, immediately the leprosy departed from him, and he was cleansed. 43 And he straitly charged him, and forthwith sent him away; 44 And saith unto him, See thou say nothing to any man: but go thy way, shew thyself to the priest, and offer for thy cleansing those things which Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them. 45 But he went out, and began to publish it much, and to blaze abroad the matter, insomuch that Jesus could no more openly enter into the city, but was without in desert places: and they came to him from every quarter but found him not because of these minions in search of themselves...

Georger, don't feed the trolls, please. Which ones?

Remember what happened after they found the money? The FBI changed their stance on the hijacking. They started saying more strongly that they thought the hijacker probably died in the jump, which is exactly what I believe Kenny WANTED them to think. I dont see that at all - in the historical record. You are giving a sermon here, not historical reality. Who have you ever interviewed, that gave that point of view. Nobody because you are blowing smoke and bloviating again. I dont mind your screwing around with the Kenny nonsense. I do mind you spouting total nonsense as fact. Your bloviation license just ran out ... Im getting involved. Stick to the Kenny case, because you dont know Jack-shit about the Cooper case. That's 100% obvious to the least among those on this forum and elsewhere. The time has arrived - HOLD YOUR PRESSES!

I dont know anything about KC's will. And wont spend 2 seconds looking into it. Why? I dont care about that.

No. You missed the point. You dont like Galen Cook much do you? A fellow competitor? Somone who knows more about the Cooper case than you ever will - unquestionably. Dont get too puffed up, Blevins. You seem to have missed Gutt's sentence: "There are other individuals currently believed to be more viable suspects..." Gutt is talking about KC, and you.

Sluggo, you surprise me. In both of your pictures a silhouette is clearly seen beneath the port engine. Obviously, this is a Northwest ramp rat who is in on the hijacking and the picture proves that DB had an accomplice. The accomplice can be seen deactivating the Cooper Vane which is affixed on the port side. This action was necessary to allow the stairs to be lowered in flight. I wonder what his cut of the money was for doing this bit of sabotage. Nice work, Sluggo. [/humor] Definately looks like the nefarious type.

I especially like the Piedmont photo you posted. Here's a couple more for you, also from Piedmont site. BTW: on the Piedmont site blog there is a post by someone claiming Cooper put his initials on the rear door; covered over by Piedmont. That has since been disproved, I guess. But there is also an anecdote by a former Piedmont stew describing how she used to 'give a little talk' to passengers on Piedmont flights, in that plane. that most people enjoyed.

But, if he is going to opin about a book and give a "review", then he should at least have read the book and know what it says and have done some background work? That was clearly not the case.

There you go. You're on your way ... you have a PM. [edit] you also need to nail down everything you can about the $20's found on that property - who, what, when, etc. What happened to the money after it was found by "who". It's probably just a coincidence but having the info is crucial to your claims. Personal request: STOP blasting people's books etc. You have a lot on your plate, just concentrate on it and move on and leave the philosophising to others. You need to get down to business ... and cease with all the speculations. That's just good advice ...

Blevins, why dont you do some home study so you dont have to be coached all the way to the Nobel Prize?

That's pretty smart advice. I copied it over and sent a message to Dan Rattenbury. He says no one's been up there since the TV guys came. I told him to stay out of there and allow no one any access until I can find a legitimate testing facility to go up to Bonney Lake and try that. Real smart. I may have misjudged you...okay, I'm SURE I did. EDIT: I've sent your test proposal details and a cover message to Seattle's oldest chemical testing company. I tried to explain the situation as best as I could. They might do it. www.nwlabs1896.com/ This is the email I sent them: 'Hi, This is Robert Blevins from Adventure Books of Seattle. I'll try to keep this as brief as possible. Recently, the History Channel ran a show on their new program Brad Meltzer's Decoded about our new book on skyjacker D.B. Cooper. We alleged the hijacker was a former paratrooper and an employee of the airline named Kenny Christiansen. During filming, one of the things History Channel did was to use an infrared sensor device to try and locate cold or hollow spots in the walls of Christiansen's old house in Bonney Lake. It is now a print shop. They found a hiding spot in the attic between two joists that was covered by a single board and then hidden with some insulation. It was located just above what would be Christiansen's old bedroom. It's been suggested that this may have been the spot where Christiansen hid the $200,000 ransom, which was a hundred bundles of twenty-dollar bills wrapped in rubber bands. I just got a message from a person who suggested that tests be done on the hiding spot to see if a large amount of cash was once hidden in that spot. Specifically, he said the following: "You could also do some basic tests on the attic space hole to see if money was ever there in quantity - cotton paper fibres with ti dioxide, iron, and sulfur should do it. The sulfur is from the rubber bands. Do a swab for isoprenes..." It makes sense that the oldest and most respected chemical testing company in Seattle should have a hand in this. The location of Christiansen's house is now the Priced Right Print and Sign Shop in Bonney Lake. The owner is Dan Rattenbury, and he would be very cooperative. He was cooperative with the History Channel people and I have spoken to him on several occasions. I have already suggested to him that such a test would be a good idea. I also told him not to allow anyone access to the attic. He told me no one's been up there since the History Channel film crew came. There is so much evidence against Christiansen now that if these tests came up positive, your company could actually take credit for helping to solve one of the biggest mysteries of the 20th century. What do you think? Do you want to give it a try? If you want more details about Christiansen and the rest of the story, try our website listed below.' (Okay, I flattered them a little bit more than I should have, but then again I'm trying to get them to go and do this either free or at a reduced rate. ) Robt this may not be as automatic as you hope. Go slowly and establish protocols for what you want to test for and how. For example, that attic access hole cover may not be a hot spot, but some area adjacent to the hole, or some place else in the attic. The fibre glass complicates the search. Just think this out and get advice. Any 'evidence' found must be linked to Kenny and then to the Cooper case. Stand-alone evidence proves nothing ...

Here is a map to guide you on your way - its the best I can do with 300k to use . I wont give you coords to the exact site - they may not be accurate. Take your gps unit along. You could also do some basic tests on the attic space hole to see if money was ever there in quantity - cotton paper fibres with ti dioxide, iron, and sulfur should do it. The sulfur is from the rubber bands. Do a swab for isoprenes. Heres the map.

I'm sure you read very well. The comprehension skills? Umm, no comment. When you decide to actually address the content of the posts I make with opinions of your own, rather than engaging in name-calling, feel free to do so. It isn't like I've been being mysterious or holding back on names, locations, and details. And if you want to see a document mentioned in any of my posts, just ask and I'll post it up. I have nothing to hide. Now that the confidentiality agreement with History Channel is expired, I don't have a problem. My comprehension skills are just fine. Get in your car, drive down to Amboy, find the guy who found the chute, ask him for a sample or ask to go to the site where the chute was found and try a find a sample still in the ground. Take a core sample next to the sample. Four feet deep should be enough. Explore the area for anything else pertinent. Make a check list before you go .. Determine if the sample is sik or nylon and report to the world - or keep the info for your next book. You can use the Google map that is on the internet to locate the approximate site ... I posted that map ages ago ... It may be that simple.

So you say. I scrub floors during the day and run AB of Seattle nights and weekends. I have to replace jeans all the time when I wear out the knees because some floors have to be hand-washed. I get up early every morning and bust ass to help put bread on the table and pay the bills. I am FAR from narcissistic, I assure you. This link isn't a promo, just proof. We have no openings, even though it says we does. I haven't signed any new customers in over a year. I just thought you'd like to have a look. http://bghousecleaning.webs.com/ You don't know me at all. So please don't presume to think you do. I know what you say and do here and elsewhere. I can read.