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He didn't say that. He's really nice on weekdays. I did say that. And I'm really nice ALL the time. Okay, most of the time. Would you believe... Well yes! You have managed to shut down the most significant part of this forum while enhancing the Weber Effect to an all time high - no small achieve- ment for a wannabe gumshoe who thinks he's a writer and has seen a ufo, and has a Newsvine editorial column with 500+ posts, and foisted BLAST off on the public, . . . . . While others are going off to distant places to collect major awards, who might have posted here. Good tradeoff. Blevins and Jo for: X

He didn't say that. He's really nice on weekdays.

Having a blast - 30 second out of every day. You?

I know the concept I stated there is a bit complex. Maybe if you read it again it will help. You can stop misquoting me any time you wish... Yea well: do you do an Elvis impression ?

RMB says: I didn't say Cooper was lying when he told Mucklow he only had a grudge, RMB didnt "say" it - he just suggested it - strongly! Now RMB comes back to say he didn't say it. Now RMB comes back to say he didn't say it. Now RMB comes back to say he didn't say it. Play it again, Sham Wow RMB. "Only" had a grudge ? More invention from RMB Sham Wow. Now RMB comes back to say he didn't say it. Now RMB comes back to say he didn't say it. Play it again Jo, I mean RMB. didn't say it. didn't say it. And the rest of his post? RMB didn't say it. RMB didn't say it. Nemo Farbo eeya idn't aysay ityay.

Your KC theory takes a hit when you claim that Cooper was lying when he said he didn't have a grudge against NWA. Assuming that Cooper was telling the truth about having a real bomb (rather than a fake), then can you name another single instance of where he lied about any meaningful thing? Robert99 No biggie. Blev just starts from the premise everybody is a liar about everything - except him of course! This kind of superiority based social racism is nothing new in certain populations.. Some people use an AR-15. Others use a keyboard! And the end of it, spraying words and thoughts instead of bullets is less harmful, thank God. The internet is full of places where people can do that.

Glad to see you're "going along" for a change. Who knows - some day you might actually learn something about the DB Cooper case!

agree with 99.9% of this - Add in the fact the flight was a relatively recent addition to NWA's flight schedule, a fact Blovns seems entirely ignorant of, that may place a few other restrictions on what and when Cooper could have done whatever it is he did prior to ...

This many. Portland to Seattle and beyond. The real point was WHY he selected 305. We know why he picked the 727. well why didn't you just say this in the first place in place instead of the incompressible guessing game? Its been discussed before. Read the thread. wonder if he know's when the route was started? maybe a reply of 1971, similar to "this many" I think we're on the same page - no, we are. timline-wise.

This many. Portland to Seattle and beyond. The real point was WHY he selected 305. We know why he picked the 727. well why didn't you just say this in the first place in place instead of the incompressible guessing game? Its been discussed before. Read the thread.

Here's a possibility: He was familiar with the routes and was living in the Puget Sound area at the time of the hijacking. And he knew the last stop for 305 before Seattle would be Portland. Nah. Couldn't be anything like that. Right? I swear some people who have been wandering around in the forest for years are still confused by all the trees.

After moderating this thread for years, would even Quade dare to write a script with such an ending to the Cooper saga? Robert99 Pigs and cows can fly - over the Moon. They do every day, here.

Has anyone at CBS asked you to be a consultant on their and Gray's movie? A paid consultant?

Go ahead and try to name one thing she's done that has forwarded the case, or assisted in some way a possible cooperation between citizens and the FBI. A: offered a fresh new alternative to you ? Go ahead and try to make my day, Pancho. Play it again, Sam. Black mold and all.

Blevins, The piece of paper you posted in NOT a flight plan. This same piece of paper was discussed to death on this thread about a year or so ago. At best, they are some notations made by the flight navigator (and/or the dispatcher) on the weather expected enroute, an estimate of the flight's progress, and a notation of the crew members names including the cabin crew. It is something the navigator and/or dispatcher would use in pre-flight planning. A flight plan is a "formal" document that the flight crew and dispatcher would file with the FAA and would include such things as navigational facilities used, reporting points, altitudes requested, flight times, etc., etc.. During the actual flight, the flight navigator would use a flight log form to keep track of the aircraft's position and a number of other things that relate to navigation. But again, that is NOT a flight plan! Robert99 We covered this before - ad nauseum, as you point out. The only thing NEW - is the realisation that the only thing that matters to Mr. Blevins is 'the sounds of his own voice'. He will continue to post and use the same tired old crap until the last drop of blood has been drained from Dropzone (or anywhere else); until at length only Jo Weber, Blevins, and 377, and a few onlookers are here ... still posting the same old crap until their computers wear out or their electricity is cut off ... or they die ... long after everyone else is gone. That is just a fact. These people have a personal agenda which transcends everyone and everything else. The only thing that matters is: are these people being entertained. If they are then everything is right with the world, as they define and control it. Georger is right again (with the exception of the reference to 377). Blevins and Jo Weber's constant repeating of the same nonsense is moving the entropy meter on this thread to very near 100%. And that means the possibility of doing something worthwhile here on the Cooper hijacking is rapidly approaching zero. Robert99

Georger, why throw stones unecessarily? 377 Since when is noting reality 'throwing stones' ? How many times do we cover the same exact thing 5000 times, because of the same posters? How many pairs of shoes do we wear out standing in one place shuffling on the same spot? Looks kind-of crazy to me! Funny, yes. Entertaining to pathologicals ? Post something about radioes! Here! Stare at this! Move it back and forth and up and down, and sing Dixie! Or ohmmmmmmmmmm along.

Blevins, The piece of paper you posted in NOT a flight plan. This same piece of paper was discussed to death on this thread about a year or so ago. At best, they are some notations made by the flight navigator (and/or the dispatcher) on the weather expected enroute, an estimate of the flight's progress, and a notation of the crew members names including the cabin crew. It is something the navigator and/or dispatcher would use in pre-flight planning. A flight plan is a "formal" document that the flight crew and dispatcher would file with the FAA and would include such things as navigational facilities used, reporting points, altitudes requested, flight times, etc., etc.. During the actual flight, the flight navigator would use a flight log form to keep track of the aircraft's position and a number of other things that relate to navigation. But again, that is NOT a flight plan! Robert99 We covered this before - ad nauseum, as you point out. The only thing NEW - is the realisation that the only thing that matters to Mr. Blevins is 'the sounds of his own voice'. He will continue to post and use the same tired old crap until the last drop of blood has been drained from Dropzone (or anywhere else); until at length only Jo Weber, Blevins, and 377, and a few onlookers are here ... still posting the same old crap until their computers wear out or their electricity is cut off ... or they die ... long after everyone else is gone. That is just a fact. These people have a personal agenda which transcends everyone and everything else. The only thing that matters is: are these people being entertained. If they are then everything is right with the world, as they define and control it.

This raises the question of whether the Citizen Sleuths are truly that, or are they actors in a Kabuki Theater production staged for more pernicious political reasons? The only "Kabuki" I am aware of, is that which is staring me in the face, in your last sentence above. Get real for once Bruce, if you can. "Scientists who can explain what they are doing and why, are rare. Writers who can explain what scientists are doing and why, are even more rare." - Richard Feynman

You are mistaken. I have answered these questions, including the one about Lyle, multiple times. The rights to Blast and all docs/pictures associated with Christiansen (the ones provided by Porteous, myself, or the Christiansen family only) belong to AB. Anything else is public domain. There is no infringement possible by the film producers unless they use those docs/pics or pull directly from the book beyond Fair Use rules. Lyle and his family stand to gain zero on anything related to Christiansen. They signed over all the rights gladly. They don't want to anyway. Most of them are a bit embarassed by the whole thing, being rather old-fashioned folks. Yes, they would like to know the truth about Kenny. I have no intention of trying to gain in any way as a result of the upcoming film. It's a comedy. Fine with me if they name Barb Dayton or anyone else except KC as the hijacker because I see nothing funny regarding the Christiansen story. Gray and the film producers are free to do the film as they wish, and if they want to mention KC along the way, I have no problem with that either. I like Gray and I wish him the best. When the film comes out, I will go see it and then buy a copy later on DVD. One thing about keeping the public eye on Cooper is that there's always a chance someone legitimate will come forward (non-Marla) with solid, new, information. If anyone ever approaches us about doing a film on KC, I will insist on it being a fact-based drama or it's no deal. No film should be made solely on KC until (if and when) he is proven to be the hijacker. Otherwise, how will you write the ending? At this point I would say no to any producer unless they can prove the case on Kenny. I said yes to History Channel because they were doing a straight investigation. And, it is precisely the AMBIVALENCE you have outlined above that can lead to lawsuits, not to mention charges and counter-charges in the social media.

So who will be the directors'/Gray's chosen suspects? BIG QUESTION which will set turf, set agendae, set focus in the public's mind, maybe give the FBI a laugh or two, set some actual researchers reeling, ... and I hear Blevins already pitching Kenny all over again as he is here today! It's all good, says 377. Duane Weber (almost has to be one suspect) Suspect #2 ? Suspect #3 in some form Kenny ? Suspects chosen from those already in the public eye, for which there is already a rich Dropzone vita ... borrowed upon free of course! Gray probably pointed this out to potential movie makers since Gray is always looking for a meaningful handout! But whose Kenny Christiansen? Gray's or Porteous/ Blevins'. Will Blevins get his legal dept moving, if he hasn't already, and file for ROYALTIES? This could lead to a soap opera worthy of 377's attention! Who OWNS Kenny Christ? I have brought this issue up numerous times in the past - now do you see why? These are real questions with copyright and dollar$$$ signs attached to them. Will Gray pay Blevins' and Porteous off? Will they reach an amicable settlement? Who else will have to get paid off? Tom Kaye? Who else will have to get paid off short of lawsuits? Will Jo Weber get paid off? Will Pasternak get paid something? Who gets a piece of the action and who does not? Hell a movie could wind up being made about 'the movie'! Will Lyle finally get paid off and what had Blevins told Lyle and what are the arrangements Blevins has not disclosed, as he blythly tore Dropzone a new asshole along the way, knowing all along, keeping track, prepared at length to give his portion away for free, in exchange for more publicity? Who is riding who across the river? Which frogs get stung by which scorpions? Turns out 377 is a seasoned expert in all these matters. I hope Oprah - I mean 377 - will keep us informed. "It's all good", the 377 axiom. And now we can expect more and better Cooper research than ever before .. Just have a good copyright attorney first! Maybe Obama will set up a program for economically disadvantaged 'Cooper Researchers' who wish to compete in the shark infested waters of ... the Cooperphelia? Blevins and Gray and movie makers will all apply too under the Equal Inequality Clause! Will there be a public offering 377 can get in on? It's all good. At the end of it all, Cooper will be known, and the case closed. And you were there! Thank Christ I dropped out, when I saw the train coming back in 1492!

You have excuses for excuses! If you have them produce them, he is deceased. There IS only ONE logical reason you will NOT produce the SS or IRS records - that is because YOU don't have them and you never tried to get them. One can be assured that KC kept records on his income and his taxes paid each yr. Rental property he would NOT have to declare as that is NOT earned income. With rents - that is income, but NOT earned income and it is treated differently. One did not pay SS on investments such as rent. Social Security is paid on EARNED income - not on investments. I do not know how somethings are handled now, but that is the way it used to be. You can get earnings at the SSN dot gov site with a name, a birthdate, an SSN, and the mother's maiden name, last name only. Don't you think Porteous already thought of that and sent me this info? Of course he did. Social Security keeps records of everything you earned reported on an IRS W-2 or whatever you file for taxes. It's how they base your future benefits on a 62/66/70 retirement age. You said that those numbers were Duane's SSN-reported earnings. I said that Duane, whose history does not reflect anything like a steady or honest lifestyle, would be unlikely to work for 10K in reported wages the year after the hijacking. Especially if he fell into a million in today's dollars. That's an opinion. So you looked up Duane's and Jo's SS records ? Or Porteous did and sent them to you? Why? Don't think Jo will be too happy to hear this! You may have just bought yourself and Porteous a boat load of trouble, But thanks for bragging about it publicly.

If Geoff used purloined info in his book then whoever bought the book may have a problemo - and Geoff may have some explaining to do. Comedy ~ tragedy.

I assume Jo was able to get the SS information as Duane's widow. RobertMBlevins could not get the same information on Christianson, could he? Part of Robert's case is that Christianson suddenly had a lot more money right after the hijacking. But, there has been no reporting of income like Jo has posted for Duane. Also, there is way of telling if Christianson suddenly had a lot more money before the hijacking. Would have been interesting to have wage and asset reports.....but not available on KC since he was unmarried? Blevins had to downsize Blevins' previous "brag" about KC's estate worth - turns out Lyle fed the Blev the wrong numbers by a very significant amount! Can anything else go wrong for Blev?

And we thought it was just some green kid writing a book! Needing help and 'Hooray for Geoff!' The curse continues... glad you are being entertained at other people's expense! Geoff should pay you a royalty.

Yeah! What he said... Care to elaborate? Is it the logic, the conveyor of, or ...?