snowmman

I posted photos of Raleigh packs, I believe from the period way back in the thread. So while I may be an asshole, I've always thought I acted as a good thread member here, in a narrow way. We all have different contributions. I only judge people in this context based on the skills displayed, resources provided or entertainment value! I really don't care about the rest of their lives. If the rest of their lives provide value for this thread, then show it here. And anyone can get offended about anything, as we all know. So I don't care if I offend anyone. If I worried about that on the internet, there are so many ways to offend, there would be nothing left for my brain to do. And the only "respect" anyone deserves, is respect earned within the thread, for whatever reason. Everyone is godlike in some other context. No reason to try to claim that somehow should be a claim for unearned respect here in this context.

remember there may be no brothers, sisters or living family or wives from the critical time period. Rather than a "lone wolf", there may be a loner that appears to be part of a well-interconnected life, but without the people that normally are "loose lips" like in the unabomber case. It's important to think about this, because Ckret may have been thinking he wants to jostle info from memory banks from certain types of people, but those people may not exist in this case. So the unabomber example of "brother" while interesting, may just be hopeful. Have to think broader to guarantee success, I think. The media and the FBI I think too easily grasp at easy models of real lives, that reflect the high percentage probability case. Remember: if we want to assume the high probability cases have all been explored, and we're confident of the skills and resources of those who explored them, then we should just be thinking about low probability cases. If we're not confident of the skills, techniques and resources of those who explored the high probability cases, then we have to cover everything. We should always try to extend our net 2-3 standard deviations beyond the center point of whatever our current nest of theories is. The dvd rental prediction model feels good in my head. Everyone can make their own model of what this search is supposed to be about, all equally valid.

I'm not saying anything negative in this post, and talking only about myself. I'll use a skydiving metaphor, even though I'm whuffo. My impression of reading a bunch of stuff in March, was that Larry was saying "let's all go do a big N-way" I don't know if Larry understood what he was saying (how it would be perceived by people like me) versus what he actually wanted to do, but the reality is not "let's all go do a big N-way". Now Larry has all sorts of good reasons for that, and he's mentioned them before, so I'm not faulting that. I had a hard time understanding whether Larry understood there was a difference between the message and the reality. Sometimes I thought "Larry just thinks that goes with the program, and everyone needs to just fly straight". I disagreed with that, since that's not how interactions on an Internet forum work. I'm not sure how experienced Larry is at Internet forums, or how people collaborate and share information and goals on them, whether it's gaming or crocheting, and how individual members build their persona solely within that thread and how. I know I am an asshole here. You can still find postings to different internet forums from me with Google going back to 1993. So it's fair to say maybe all of that has rubbed off on me, on my perception of the virtual reality we exist in, here. Like I say, I have no idea what Larry is about. I'm only talking about how I perceive things and what I do. So none of this should be perceived at being directed at anyone. I'm just talking about my head.

nah. even Turchie and Puckett now have jumped on the latest bandwagon of saying "no, everyone is wrong now, we gotta do something different" Reply> Could look in the KGB archives. Their section on French-Canadian-American-employed dissidents open to defection might be a place to start. Georger Cooper did spend a lot of time in the john. He could have been a French Canadian defecator. :)

I tried. I posted that link a few months back of the remains of a WW2 paratrooper that had just been found in a tree... can't remember where the location was but it does show someone can be up a tree for a long time without anyone realising they are there. orange1: that was something that looked like what you said. I think it was just bullshit. They took pictures from the ground. Said it looked like Uncle Albert, next thing you knew it's all over the internet http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/08/28/2348489.htm http://abc.com.au/news/stories/2008/08/28/2349562.htm Notice you haven't heard about it since. however, earlier that year, a full skeleton of a japanese soldier was found buried in the Kokoda Track. (Kokoda track was the same area) So this story is real: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,,23236924-31477,00.html?from=public_rss I think the other story was just odd plant formation. If anyone can dig up a post August resolution of it, that would be interesting. But Orange1, you're promoting myth as far as I can tell, unless you got more?

nah. even Turchie and Puckett now have jumped on the latest bandwagon of saying "no, everyone is wrong now, we gotta do something different" You can make a good living with that. Whatever people did last, say it's wrong. Dogbert knows that! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/terry-turchie-and-kathleen-puckett/homeland-insecurity_b_134981.html "whatever it is, I'm against it And even when you’ve changed it or condensed it, I’m against it." (edit) their 2008 article reads like a 1971 revolutionary manifesto! (edit) My "We Are All Night Clerks!" buttons will be available on ebay in the next 2 weeks. In the Che Guevera panties section.

got the post time for wheels up at 7:33. You've got the rig on and you're still trying to frig the money bag http://n467us.com/NORJAK%20Time%20Table.htm If we had a budget, we'd have an animation going from now on till about 8:11 - 8:30, on this 37 year anniversary. In any case, I thought this blog sums it up well: http://outside-blog.away.com/blog/2008/11/criminal-semi-r.html "No matter how you might view Cooper, it's hard to deny that his exploits were about something more than just getting paid. The adventure was part of the allure. If it was just about lining his pockets with money that wasn't necessarily his, he'd probably have just gone to work on Wall Street." -- Phil Guidry (edit) Current weather conditions at PDX 43 deg F Windchill 40F 74% humidity Wind 5mph from ESE Pressure: 30.09 in. (steady) Visibility 10 miles Clouds Few @ 16000 ft. Scattered Clouds @ 25000 ft

There's always random background stuff I've looked at that didn't seem worth a mention. I'll throw this out since we're talking about Weinberg/Dan Cooper again. When exploring the background of the Dan Cooper comic, you can't help running into Tintin (created by Herge). The Tintin character is a young Belgian reporter. Weinberg joined the editorial team for Tintin in 1950. Weinberg started "Dan Cooper" in 1957. "Tintin in Tibet" was written while Herge was having a hard time. Divorce. Nervous "breakdown" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tintin_in_Tibet The english version of "Tintin in Tibet" arrived in 1960. Not sure when english versions of Dan Cooper first arrived. from some websites: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Tintin Tintin was once called "The Newspaper of Tintin" subtitled: the newspaper of the young people from 7 to 77 year first published in 1946 (Belgian). 1948 (French). The Tintin character is interesting: from http://www.speedylook.com/Tintin.html "Its age is rather difficult to determine. It is not a Adulte, as leaves it think its small size and its weak aspect, but is not a Adolescent either, and even less a Enfant (he only lives in his own apartment with his dog Milou, is journalist although one never sees it with work, seems to provide only for his needs and is extremely physically). In an interview with the radio, Hergé just answered that " it is jeune" . This ambiguity is probably intended to help the reader, child or adult, to be identified with him. "

fair enough, 377 Since Orange1 has nailed me down, don't forget what happened with Leeroy Jenkins! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zll_jAKvarw

(edit) just noticed this film is a little older than I realized. May or may not be what you refer to. Yes a really bad indie film was made by some young guys. Called "The Skyjacker". I think it's been shown at least one festival so far. Reviews are really bad. It was more of an artsy attempt. That failed. Think of it as kids playing with video equipment so they can get girls to show up on the set. here's the trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFvKNQUFvIc imdb: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1159234/ (edit) an interview (4/27) with the guys who made the film: http://www.einsiders.com/features/columns/show_article.php?article=404 I read a review that said the "acting" consisted of a lot of smoking. It's supposed to be really slow and drags.

This won't be revealing any private information, but you mentioned you talked on the phone, and he would be turning in a statement to the Portland office. Can we assume he lives somewhere near Portland? I'm assuming the phone number you used was in that vicinity. Do you guys check out things like ID and residence when someone gives a statement? I'm just wondering about OR residence. or do we not know? The whole China back and forth thing is odd, and the story is odd and the timing like you say, so I'm curious about the whole thing. Although I suppose there are a lot of half-baked stories out there. You mentioned random letters appearing to the FBI most every time you go on the news. This one seemed odd because of the long term email exchange relationship with Jo....even crossing continents. And this is a married man. He already has his Linda?

Taunt 18. Age of Empires

okay, you guys have been joking about whuffos that try to hang out with jumpers for slimy reasons.. well I just got this PM today. Hell this is great! Don't tell me that somehow spambots can infest DZ.com and create fake accounts and send PMs. And don't tell me it's just my turn with linda. Look you guys might have 1000 jumps, but I'm close to 1000 posts. That counts! PM I got: (I think she was impressed by my # jumps) Hello!!! My name is linda I am tall ,good looking, perfect body figure and sexy. I saw your profile in www.dropzone.com and was delighted to contact you, I hope you will be the true loving, honest and caring man that I have been looking 4, And I have something special to tell you about me, So please contact me directly through my address lindedwin7@yahoo.com so that I can also send my picture directly to you.

Tell the night clerk he can stay in the USA and teach me. My posts are no good. My English is suffering. Ckret thinks I'm an ass. I need to be able to win friends and influence people thru English wizardy. Tell the night clerk, he's my only hope.

Oh Come On Now! I may be snowmman, but I'm not that omnipotent when it comes to real reality. I can't post something here, and all of a sudden human bodies decide to up and move across continents. What were the circumstances that would improve for an old man? Health? Health care will be worse in China. Money? Did Money arrive? Did someone die that was sick? How can this be? We need the night clerk! We understand the night clerk! In our hearts we are all night clerks! All hail the night clerk! NIGHT CLERK IN A ROACH MOTEL I’m the furtive inspector of dimly lit corridors, Dead light bulbs and red exit signs, Doors that show traces Of numerous attempts at violent entry, Is that a rustle of counterfeit bills Being counted in the wedding suite? A comb passing through a head of gray hair? The sound of a maid making a bed? Eternity is a bathroom full of spider webs, Dostoyevsky wrote. I better get the passkey and see for myself. I better bring some matches too.

I posted some snaps before that showed (mostly) the big hooks on the chest reserve Ckret has. I guessed at the hardware. They were larger than what Wolf said were B-12 size. Do you have a link to a picture of the size snap you tested with? I'm wondering if they're smaller than Ckret's. I'll try attaching the snaps again. (edit) ev1 has hook in mid-upper left ev3a is fuzzy but you can see bottom of reserve and hooks. ms70121 was my guess at the spec for the link based on 71 timeframe chest? and from the photo. Would be nice if someone could just say which hook is probably there. (edit) b-12 snap added for comparison

He tasks me! And I shall have him. I'll chase him round the moons of Nibia and round the Antares maelstrom and round perdition's flames before I give him up. Ckret: I was probing this issue of clipping the belly reserve to the webbing of the NB6. No one backed me up on it. Do you have data? Have you tried it. It would be very interesting to know this detail for sure. I have no idea.

Comic books are quite entrenched in Japanese culture. Of a different sort. We all make judgment calls I suppose on what is high or low quality. History is defined by the winners I suppose.

probably right. Some consultants were hired. Best suggestions were: 1. Buying a stronger whip. 3. Say things like, "This is the way we have always ridden this horse." 4. Create a DZ.com thread to study the horse. 5. Arranging to visit other skydiving web sites to see how they ride dead horses. 7. Appointing a tiger team to revive the dead horse. 12. Harnessing several dead horses together for increased speed. 13. Declaring that "No horse is too dead to beat." 14. Providing additional funding to increase the horse's performance. 16. Purchase a product to make dead horses run faster. 17. Declare the horse is "better, faster and cheaper" dead. 18. Form a quality circle to find uses for dead horses. 19. Revisit the performance requirements for horses. 21. Promote the dead horse to a supervisory position.

thanks ckret. it sounds like based on your experience and the age issues, we shouldn't expect that there's much additional info in the sketches. You have the expertise here, obviously.

Looking at the composites, I am reminded of the following fashion tips! I have no idea what was prevalent in 1971. But assuming the artist didn't just "draw whatever"..I would say "long point straight collar, well fitted to Cooper's neck size." Cooper may have had a selection of ties. His shirt collection may have been more focused, preference-wise.

not asking ckret a question here, so he can ignore. Was wondering about feedback from others. Ckret has mentioned that it's quite possible the release of the composite sketches hindered the investigation, and maybe just the simple verbal descriptions would have helped more early on. It got me thinking about how the sketches inherently have embedded information in them, that was exchanged between the witness and the sketch artist. Maybe stuff that wasn't exchanged during the FBI interview. So I was wondering if looking at the sketches (maybe look at them serially), what "features" pop out at you that you would verbalize. I'm not good at this, but like would you say things like "long thin nose" "heavy eyelids" "thin eyebrows" 'horizontal creases on forehead" "thin lips" "wrinkles, sags below eyes" "broad chin (or ???)" "rounded shoulders?" "beard may grow quickly" I'm more curious about how people perceive a composite sketch. The ears, hairline, have been talked about, but we've not discussed much how you would describe the information inherent in the sketch to someone.

no that was good. It does outline the "it's just the money" theory. It may be right. I only think about the grudge thing because of the behavior of other hijackers, not because of anything Cooper did. I could easily be exactly wrong.

it's amazing to think that a carved message of some sort could have been there. I can't begin to guess at what it could be, but that has never stopped me before: :) I was thinking the placard was removed so Cooper could read it. But now I'm thinking of Cooper looking at a "Warning" placard...and chuckling and pulling it out and saying "You're warning me? I'm warning you" by leaving his own little "placard". The (I think second?) Dan Cooper comic book that was released in 1971. Amongst my crazy theories was whether Cooper might have seen it on a newsrack or something at the last minute, triggering a memory from his past. The title of the '71 #17 comic was "S.O.S. dans l'Espace" Cooper may also have been suffering some kind of schizophrenia, and maybe the initials were related to some alternate person. Or maybe the message was related to his grudge. Ckret always went on about the money, but I think that was secondary. I think the grudge was primary. There were many interesting events in the '60s in Seattle. The 1962 World's Fair. The 1963 National Parachute Championships at Issaquah. It's hard to figure out what things were really like there, back then. Like for instance, here's a picture of Miss Issaquah flipping the power switch on for the new sewage treatment plant in Issaquah in 1968. I'd swear the mayor is looking at her boobies. and the second is Elvis presenting a ham as a present at the 1962 Seattle World's Fair.

(i think that was what snow said? is that true) that would make him 64 now, close to retirement and a strange age to be taking up contracts in foreign countries? Again sure it's possible...but unlikely? See Orange1, you prove my point. Everyone is brilliant. Again, there are always outliers, so we can never say "never". But it does at least make us wonder, right. When I posted my collection of details that Jo took affront at....it was funny, because the details were solely from her posts. I did no research. I was just writing what she said (spread over multiple posts) Like the apparent in-usa to handle citizenship issues for wife? I assumed that meant new wife..which again would be strange for the age...could go thru and estimate the age of this marriage from Jo's posts...but the main point, as you say, is: it just seems odd. Now, if all the ages are accurate, then being an outlier is enough to make it interesting in it's own right. So true or false, we may never know. But it's interesting.