PLFXpert
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I was referring to "moral degradation". Mostly I was being ambiguous. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.
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It should be noted as a child I vowed I would marry Mr. Swayze. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.
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I very much want to protect unadopted children that live their lives "in the system", foster homes, then at 18 get to leave with a garbage bag of their belongings and little preparation to make a life for themselves (both metaphorically and literally). Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.
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I've been saying just this all along: If one can think of any reason in any circumstance they would support an abortion, one must not consider themselves "pro-life". "Have one's cake & eat it, too!" Wouldn't that be great? Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.
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So, while we await further research on Dr. Lanza's principle, where do we all stand on abortion and embryonic stem cell research? Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.
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Nicely put.
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One of several reasons: Most things in life that can (and might have intended to be) used for human benefit can also be used in an opposite (undesired by most) way. Pro-choice does mean one must accept the other, less desirable scenarios will also likely be performed. Is that what you want admitted? OK. I don't see how that means a pro-choicer should not logically have a desire to prevent abortion. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.
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Warning: Be ware the "buttered popcorn". Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.
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Those are them! Yuck! And I'm 75% German! Of course, it wasn't until recently I started enjoying kraut so... Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.
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And sometimes, if not often, it's b/c I'm considering the fetus I would support an abortion. Crazy, I know! Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.
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It would be a long, equally boring thread if the basic rules of debate are ignored and terms are used incorrectly. My point is not to argue when & what circumstances, only for some to concede if they would support abortion in any circumstance, they should not consider themselves "pro-life". Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.
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I was going to go there next. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.
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What rights would you give? Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.
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When were we discussing this? When did I say otherwise? I haven't given my personal opinion about when & what circumstances I agree or disagree with. The only thing I've offered inherently in my posts is that my legal position is pro-choice. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.
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The only thing that tends to bother me is the assumption of either side that the opposite side must be cold & cruel. And the whole tunnel vision thing. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.
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The "life of the mother" (be it physical health, mental health, or a life & death scenario) argument merely demonstrates why some don't believe equal rights can/should be given to both mother & unborn child. You've even used the argument yourself when you presented your own "legitimate reasons". Who were you thinking about first in the rape scenario? Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.
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The problem for many on either side is tunnel vision. I appreciate you have thought about the bigger picture of cause & effect.
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"Pro-choice" is a legal position. Personal opinions on circumstance aside, certainly there could be a risk of death to the child in many cases in which a mother--with all the desire & intention of keeping her baby--must deliver early (which might potentially result in an abortion). If in these cases, the fetus has equal rights to the mother, whose health & right-to-life should be considered first and who makes that decision? I think you're confusing "pro-choice" with one's personal opinion of how & when the option should be used. There are a lot of opinions in both the pro-choice & pro-life "crowd", but only one legal position either way. It doesn't sound like you'd legally prohibit abortion in all cases & scenarios. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.
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If it weren't for misskriss, I'd have to reply WAY more often. (I agree!
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Take "a bag of newborn kittens" out of your analogy and replace it with "a baby in a bag". There is often a difference. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.
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That's wonderful!
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First, you did not answer my question which you quoted. Second, my point about the mother's right-to-life & health being put before the child's in any doctor/patient scenario is accurate. Third, you're basically proving my point here. And even these "legitimate reasons" are arguable by some. Some believe one still should not terminate under any of these conditions. Legally, if one can think of any reason why they would support an abortion, one should not consider themselves "pro-life". Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.
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Well shoot, hunny. Why didn't you say so in the first place?
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Generally speaking, I completely agree.
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I mostly went for cherry. Admittedly, though, when they had blue raspberry I'd make a three parts blue, one part coke slurpee mixture. I LOVED slurpees!