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Ah. No, I had not. Apparently they are all out of control. I guess they need to nullify those years as if there was no race. Makes one wonder if they should continue at all if cheating is that prolific. Either that or quit trying to regulate the drugs at all. Mr. Olympia tried drug testing for a brief while. Then, they decided it was hurting the sport and just moved on. Not surprised about Armstrong. He cheated on the wife that stuck with him through all the cancer drama. After that, cheating for a bicycle race is small change. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

I would expect whoever came in 2nd would be declared the winner. Pretty sad. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

Am I the only one that clicked on this thread expecting something about Ricardo Montalban? I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

I like the idea of combining this thread with the 'save the boobies' thread. Maybe guesses could cost $1 donated and the winner gets a private viewing of the proffered tatas? I leave for Belgium Tuesday. I'll be there all alone for two years. I expect to view this thread frequently. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

Insane until proven competent??? I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

"The petition is so devoid of any factual allegations that it could not be reasonably expected to give rise to a case or controversy," the order says. Wow. That's pretty condemning of the process. I guess that answers the question of why the article lacked factual foundation for the actions of the authorities. Pretty ugly. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

I think the casino loses and the gamblers win. The gamblers had no duty to the casino. The casino would probably have better luck suing the ones they got the cards from. That's where the mistake was made. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

Perhaps if the authorities just had a way to turn on the camera on your computer and observe you. We could have a special government agency to watch people. I know! We can call them "Thought Police". Seriously, that story was scant on details. Maybe by design. Maybe because there aren't enough to justify the reaction. Sounds like a knee-jerk reaction to recent events unless there are facts about the guy's posts that aren't in evidence. Very concerning. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

You both prefer women who are great actresses? Ouch! I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

My brother by another mother. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

Less verbose than my answer. Thanks. So, here's my concern. I have brought women to multiple orgasm to a point where they passed out, were unable to breath, etc. At some point before they passed out, I gurarantee they were unable to consent because they couldn't speak or think. At which point did I become a rapist? I assumed consent was continuing and implied. Some here seem to disagree. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

There is a school of thought that if the woman doesn't resist enough, it wasn't rape. This might have been the reprehensible thing he was indicating. As I pointed out earlier, there is also a school of thought that violent rape does not allow a woman's body to become pregnant. That's merely ignorant. Of course, he may have meant both. Still doesn't mean the media isn't blowing it up. They often do. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

Very refreshing to see someone here concede something not in the interests of their personal position. Thanks. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

I've actually heard people say that the hormones created by the trauma would prevent pregnancy. It was once a popular belief. Ridiculous. My grandmother once told me she didn't let her daughters bathe or swim during their cycle because it caused mental instability.... I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

19 years ago. Painless. Watched the whole thing and talked to the docs doing it. Went running a couple of days later. Never felt a thing. Highly recommended. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

I'm not sure. Please let me know where you are going. I agree that a party can withdraw consent at any time. I disagree that post-coital sleep indicates a withdrawal of consent. I don't think the guy (as described) had any intention of doing something she disagreed with. To charge him criminally? I don't see it. Let's follow the other route...let's say it is rape. What if he initiated a second round by caressing her breast or kissing her to wake her? That could be sexual battery if we follow the given line of thought. She didn't give specifc consent to this touching. Does she have to fall asleep first? What if they lay there and talk for a while and either one re-initiates by caressing the other? Battery? Do we have to give verbal consent? Written? Must it be notarized? What if you are married? I agree rape can be just as easily committed within a marriage. But are we saying it might be rape if my wife wakes me up with sex just because I've decided so? That's the logical conclusion of the argument. I think it helps clarify things if you reverse the gender roles. I have the same desire to protect women from this heinous crime as the next morally upright guy, but I'm trying to keep emotion out of it. It can't be a part of the equation that only one can be guilty or that guilt can be determined by a change of mind later. Criminal actions must be coupled with a criminal intent. I don't see it in the described situation. I think he had every reason to think the woman he had just had sex with, had no altercation or disagreement with, and was still in bed with naked, was willing. Now, if the situation was not as described, everything changes. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

I understood what he was thinking from the beginning. He was in a wishful thinking mode that the full blown, she's been violently raped and her uterus is so torn up she cannot sustain a pregnancy. Ignorance induced by his belief system that says abortion is always wrong. I'm a bit torn. Yes, the guy is probably too ignorant, stupid or just hard headed biased to make laws. But, if you spent a little time with the rest of them, you would probably find they are all about the same. I remember the congressman who suggested during a hearing about Marines re-locating on a pacific island that the move might cause the island to tip over. You don't have to be bright to get elected. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

I read the article. I have a very low tolerance for inappropriate sexual conduct toward women. But I can't call the situation that was described 'rape'. There may be more to the situation, but I rather like being woken up to sex with my partner and so have my partners. I've made women pass out before...if I continue, am I raping them? If they had sex and then fell asleep, absent other indications, I would think consent was on-going that night until withdrawn. If you reverse the genders and say that he woke up to find her sucking on him, would you still describe it as rape? I can't imagine so. Again, I am tremendously offended by rape. No means no. Any kind of resistance means no. Even indecision means no. In my book, being drunk means no. I want a woman who is completely in agreement. But taking a nap and continuing when there is no indication she's changed her mind? ... I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

I wonder what Obama is hiding by keeping his school records and such from the public. But I don't think I have a right to them. Romney released tax returns and people attacked him because the millions he paid in taxes wasn't enough. I'm not surprised he is balking at releasing more. I generally think anyone running for POTUS should be prepared to release everything. However, given historical precedent, I think it is hypocritical to give Romeny a rash about this. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

Sad story. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

Disorderly conduct and criminal mischief are already illegal in Alabama. There are generally POP laws everywhere. (Pissing off the police). No. There are no new laws needed that I am aware of. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

The exact same thing can be said of the right wing. The difference? The left wing will riot for a crust of bread. The right wing will start a war for oil. A) this thread was started about the RNC and threats made by the black panther party, not the whole Iraq war topic. 2) As gravity master said, dems voted in favor of military action III) The left picks and chooses laws,sanctions it wants to follow, if we didnt intervene in Iraq after they failed to comply with UN treaty agreements, the left would be blamming the right for bush not taking action when Iraq used chemical weapons... again. Left, right and center do this. SC is sometimes a microcosm of our political world. Just try to follow thread and get someone to debate one topic to conclusion before going on a tangent. Same thing on the national level. If your argument isn't going well, pick a new one. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

If those claims are true, I would hope the FBI is treating these terrorist threats seriously and preparing to arrest those making them. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

I think I've left mine at the DZ a half dozen times for a week or more. Nothing every happened to it. Guess I'll keep an eye on it in Europe. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

I can only hope the cats in the fighters were de-clawed. That could go so very badly. We had a cat that we threw around like a football. We were very careful with him and he was very trusting. He enjoyed it. My grandfather insisted that all cats would land on their feet. We told him this one would not, because it trusted you to throw it correctly. He dropped it. It hit on it's back. Some people 'know' things that aren't so and you just can't tell them otherwise. Hmmmm..... I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.