Belgian_Draft

I'm afraid of people that say they have no fear. They are truly dangerous. yep! They are either lying or dumber than a bag of hammers. True story! Everyone's afraid of something. Chuck It's all part of evolution. Those who truly have no fear are eliminated from the gene pool very quickly, usually by their own stupid blunders. Those who let their fears control them are also eliminated but at a much slower rate. Those who have fears but learn quickly to control those fears and use them to their advantage are the most likely to survive and produce offspring who have the same trait. I have often read publications proclaiming how to eliminate fear. Well, that entire idea is a bunch of bullshit. We can no more eliminate the emotion of fear than we can any other emotion. But we can learn to control it. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I'm afraid of people that say they have no fear. They are truly dangerous. yep! They are either lying or dumber than a bag of hammers. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

He is on administrative leave. The fucked up part is...he is being paid. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Ya well, I prefer books over an etch-a-sketch. I viewed that demonstration as a mockery. Don't you mean "book" (singular), and a fairly "sketchy" one at that? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Next to bunny rabbits, what I fear the most is failing to do my absolute best at whatever I do. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Input from yet another person with a superman, I can do what other mortal men can not, fantasy. Hilarious. Maybe I can, maybe I can't. You don't know. Care to answer the question or are you going to continue to make smartassed remarks? "Smartassed," said the male donkey? Since you can't decide which group you would be in, we can safely assume, due to your indecidedness, that you would merely panic and become a meal. Bear meat is some tasty stuff... once you get past the fucking smell as you gut and skin the thing out..... N A S T Y... and the carcas hanging... looks a hell of a lot like a human... that kinda creeped me out a little in the dimly lit garage Yep..tasty!

Input from yet another person with a superman, I can do what other mortal men can not, fantasy. Hilarious. Maybe I can, maybe I can't. You don't know. Care to answer the question or are you going to continue to make smartassed remarks? "Smartassed," said the male donkey? Since you can't decide which group you would be in, we can safely assume, due to your indecidedness, that you would merely panic and become a meal. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Input from yet another person with a superman, I can do what other mortal men can not, fantasy. Hilarious. Maybe I can, maybe I can't. You don't know. Care to answer the question or are you going to continue to make smartassed remarks? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I dunno. Why don't you ask JR why he didn't bring it up? Oh wait, is it because he believes a gun is the proper solution to a grizzly bear attack? His words in this thread seem to suggest so. For people who can function under pressure and stress a gun most certainly can be the best answer. For some others who can't, pepper spray can be the best option. Then there is the portion of the human population that freezes under pressure. For them, it makes no difference what they carry. They will panic and die regardless. Which group do you fit in? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Maybe not shooting deaths, but there has been a rash of deaths in Yosemite this year. Anti-rights people will find some way to connect those deaths to the change in gun laws. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

The unreliablity of eyewitnesses is nothing new. It's just that, until relatively recently, it was the best evidence we had next to fingerprints and photographs. The human mind is not a computer. When it puts something to memory, that memory not only can change, it almost always does. People think they see something and remember it that way whether or not their memory is factual. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I know several people who have refinanced homes they bought between 4 and 7 years ago. They were smart enough to pay a realistic price for their homes and didn't allow themselves to get caught up in the artificially inflated real estate market. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Made your point? I did no such thing as you have never made a point (GM management has admitted they were to blame). The most you are capable of doing is poorly formulating one or two lines of age old rhetoric. Try investigating what brought GM to the edge. Start by avoiding right wing and left wing websites and focus on unbiased analysis. I have. I have also talked at length with UAW members while they were taking all they could extort from the automakers. A couple were family members and were not the least bit shy of saying how little they cared for the future of the company as long as they could squeeze every cent they could out of Ford, GM, and Chrysler. Even though they were family, they were still parasites. Like I said, fuck the unions. It's their turn. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

And all of those changes came after the UAW parasites bled GM dry. Thank you for making my point.

Bull-fuckin'-shit. Now that is an intelligent reply. So you think corporations can continue to function while paying unrealistically high wages and benefits to relatively uneducated/unskilled labor, paying untold millions/year in pensions to those same workers after they retire....all while competing against non-union shops that pay reasonable wages and benefits? Yep, makes perfect sense to me. Right, because it's the wages of the lowest level of workers that's driving companies into the ground. http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hiltzik-20110821,0,1491024.column Fuck that. Ah yes, back to the same old "rich man vs poor man" argument. I win, you lose. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Bull-fuckin'-shit. Now that is an intelligent reply. So you think corporations can continue to function while paying unrealistically high wages and benefits to relatively uneducated/unskilled labor, paying untold millions/year in pensions to those same workers after they retire....all while competing against non-union shops that pay reasonable wages and benefits? Yep, makes perfect sense to me. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I could agree with #1 as long as lifetime tenure was replaced with a single term x years. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

You obviously have zero comprehension of how business operates. If a union worker makes $20/hr he gets $20 for each hour he works regardles of the bottom line of the company as a whole. His only concern is whether the company stays afloat. The UAW worked this to perfection. The UAW drove the "Big Three" into bankruptcy. Their legalized extortion gained them benefits that were impossible for any company to keep paying out. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

In the case of Hussmann, the union and the company had a great working relationship, when the company was not part of a conglomerate. There was tension when the company was owned by Whitman Corp. After they spun us off, tension eased greatly. The came Ingersoll Rand. Company and union picnics were once combined. Without an overlord attitude from some sort of mega-god CEO, life was real good in the plant. When Ingersoll Rand took over, everything changed for the worst. No longer were company and union people permitted to fraternize. Hence, company and union picnics were no longer combined. The same for the annual golf tournament. I believe that sort of separation breaks down friendly negotiations. People stop viewing each other as friends in the same boat. It erodes the trust that was gained when people were able to see each other outside the plant. You see that those in the union and those who are company are no different. Everyone has families, kids, and homes. You know, people talk to each other about something other than the job. You start to see that everyone is in the same boat. That was healthy for the company as well as the union. My view is when a wall is put between the two, union and company, each side fails to see the other side as people and only as numbers and tools. Company management, owners, CEOs, etc. are not in the same boat as employees. They own and/or run the company. They are in charge. Hourly workers are just that...workers. They have far no concern whether the company has a net profit of $200 or $2,000,000 as long as they collect a paycheck for as much as they can get and, in the case of unions, extort from the company. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

AGAIN.. what you and the other union haters in the business community seem to miss completely is that we as a country are heading to a place where you will be joining the ranks of the poor all too soon when you have no market for your products because no Americans other than perhaps the very top 1% have any money to buy anything. You and your fellow travellers are supporting the demise of a healthy middle class in America and your grandchildren are going to curse you and those like you for it. So tell me...how many people could afford to buy a car if it was built entirely in the US by union members? Not many. Fuck the unions. Just a bunch of pussies who can't stand up for themselves. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

So when it is more cost effective to produce in the states it is ok to buy here, but not vice versa? Got it. Try running a business successfully and then come back and tell me how you did so using only products and labor from US unions. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Sufre there are examples of outsourcing that result in inferior products. Most don't. You, and your union comrades, fail to recognize that American companies and workers are competing not in an American economy, but a worldwide economy. Sustaining a high standard of living was easier when most of the rest of the world lagged behind in quality and quantity, but they have now caught and, as often as not, surpassed American workers in both quantity and quality....at a far lower cost. LUK, Inc. in Wooster, OH manufactures torque converters and clutches. Darn good ones, too. But so does China and at far less cost. It only costs a few thousand dollars to bring a shipping container over from China and it can hold a hell of a lot of high quality driveline components. Why should any company pay double for the same product of equal or lower quality? To keep dollars and jobs here, in the same country that taxes businesses blind? To keep jobs here so the unions can make life hell for business owners? HA! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

If all the job entails is putting a piece of molding on the side of a car...a job any grade school dropout can do...then $8.00/hr is fair. However, union autoworkers get paid a bit more than that. Unions don't believe in matching pay to the job. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Kennedy already suggested that one. (Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity) HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

The hypothetical situation posed to you is very real. Unions once had (thankfully no longer have) the strength to force companies to keep labor numbers far in excess of what was needed, thus leading to the situation you described. Yes, I hate unions. The fact they place seniority over skill is one reason along with their attempts to demand how a company should be operated, where to outsource parts, etc. They also drive up the cost of labor far past its true value through legalized extortion. If they would focus on obtaining and retaining safe work conditions and a fair wage they would have far more support. But their insistance upon trying to control all aspects of business is one reason their numbers have plummeted in recent years and they are now a mere shadow of what they once were. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.