Belgian_Draft

Very open minded guy you are. Watch the fuckin thing. You might learn something. Only five mins. Sheesh. It has nothing to do with being open minded or not. People on this forum have a habit of posting lengthy videos that can be summarized in a few sentences. This video repeated the same scene over and over and over again in the first minute. I had no reason to think the next 4 would be any different. Want people to watch a vid you post? Then give a short description of what the hell it is about, don't just post a link and a 4-6 word slam of it. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

In skydiving, or any extreme sport, the only risk involved is if something goes wrong. Unlike smoking weed, merely participating does no harm at all...NONE! Harm comes when somebody or something screws up. When smoking pot, every drag does more damage. More smoking = more damage. I don't know about the rest of you, but when I jump, rappel, climb, race, fly, etc. it is not to escape reality but rather to enhance it. Life is too grand to spend even part of it with my brain in a fog. Some people like their brain in a fog. That's their choice, one that I think is stupid. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

For a brief period back in the 70s when I was young and stupid. Then I grew up and started facing my problems head on. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

He didn't try to discredit all the deaths. He only tried to discredit the deaths from 2001, which he did. Which leads to the question, can the rest of the deaths be discredited? Regardless, marijuana has been shown to be less harmful than alcohol, caffeine, and nicotine. So, how about you stop pretending Reefer Madness is a documentary and do some research ... He also admitted he does not fully understand how the CDC classifies "cause of death". Where he did not understand something he interpreted the data in a manner that would best suit his cause. Not exactly an accurate means, now was it? If it weren't for the data posted on that website from the CDC, the whole thing would be nothing more than biased conjecture. How 'bout you stop touting it as some kind of harmless drug? I have done research into it. Evidently you have not. This thread is going nowhere but in circles. Ya'll are pissed because I view smoking pot as a stupid act done by people who don't have the guts to face reality head on. Now I'm sure somebody is going to come right back with some kind of response saying that i do the same thing by drinking beer. Fact is, it is NOT the same. People who smoke pot do so to get high, get a buzz, whatever you want to call it. They are intentionally altering the chemistry of their brain to induce an artificial sense of euphoria. I drink a beer once in a while because I enjoy the taste and never drink enough to get a buzz. I STOP before any significant chemical change has taken place and any alcohol I ingest is out of my system within a few hours. I am done with you here. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Cleveland isn't all bad. they have the Rock N Roill Hall of Fame, the pro Football H.o.F. id just down the road in Canton, their basketball team is kickin' butt this year and the greatest roller coaster park in the world is just an hour west! I'll add that when it comes to getting to an address in Cleveland, they have what i would say is the best road system in the country. You can be just about anywhere in the greater Cleveland are withing 10-15 minutes after leaving the interstate. Getting from one side of town to the other is a breeze. But it's not a place I would want to live. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

If you read the conclusions, Bill, you would find out that he could not discredit all the deaths the CDC attributed to pot. What was asked, and what I gave, was a source of info that shows deaths attributed to pot. The source even went so far as to eliminate those deaths from the CDC listed cause. He could not. Nothing ironic about it at all unless you feel someone cannot accept part of a report without disbelieving or not accepting other parts. Edit to add: If you notice, the data was directly from the CDC. The interpretations are by someone who is trying to discredit the CDC findings, someone very biased. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

You better check again on that. Though uncommon it has happened. Some people can't handle even a small amount, similar to the way some can't tolerate anesthesia or any number of other chemicals. Do you have a source? www.briancbennett.com/charts/death/cannabis.htm There's your source, but I expect you will not accept it. Did you bother to read your source? Yes, I read the source. It still shows deaths directly from the use of maijuana even after the author had eliminated those that he felt were in error. Mind you, the author is sorting through the data in an effort to eliminate as many instances as he can. Therefor it is not, by any standards, an objective interpretation and he still found a small number that he can not attribute to anything other than marijuana. So there you have it. Your claim that it has never caused a single death is bullshit and disproved by someone whose outlook is much the same as your own. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

He asked for the source showing deaths from using marijuana. That is what I posted. I never said I agreed with all that is on the website. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I know plenty of swimmers who wouldn't agree ... I know plenty of swimmers myself who would not agree. I also know plenty who would. Proves nothing. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

You better check again on that. Though uncommon it has happened. Some people can't handle even a small amount, similar to the way some can't tolerate anesthesia or any number of other chemicals. Do you have a source? www.briancbennett.com/charts/death/cannabis.htm There's your source, but I expect you will not accept it. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

As exhibit A, Michael Phelps' performance in the 2008 summer Olympics... Blues, Dave You don't need need much smarts to swim fast. Fish do it all the time. Of course, all the studies can be wrong. The diminished brain capacity could be the cause of marijuana use, not the result. I suspect it's a combination of both. I'd posit that it takes a fair amount of mental acuity to do something better than anyone ever has (world records) while on a stage in front of millions, with some of the best in the world trying to better you a few feet away. You could argue that any old stoner could rack up 8 golds in one Olympiad, but you'd look kind of silly, because the number of people who've done it before, stoned or sober, is zero. The bottom line is that clearly someone can be a pot smoker and still excel to an amazing degree. Blues, Dave I would argue that Phelps is not a stoner and most likely does not partake very often. Since marijuana stays in your system for several days, it is highly unlikely he would have been smoking during the time leading up to and including the Olympics unless he was taking a masking drug, which also are banned. Phelps physical attributes give him enough of an advantage over his competition that he could probably still win if he were as high as a kite. Like I said, "not much smarts" needed to swim fast. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

But you're wrong. Both are good for you, provided the amount is low. Hey! We agree on something! But I doubt you would agree that the amount of either that is healthy is less than the amount that the average user needs to get a buzz. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Then you are wrong. You better check again on that. Though uncommon it has happened. Some people can't handle even a small amount, similar to the way some can't tolerate anesthesia or any number of other chemicals. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

You want to give a synopsis of that vid? I watched the first minute and there was so much being repeated I didn't feel like wasting my time watching the rest. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Do more research ... PS: Need need much smarts ... have you been using marijuana? You do know how intentional irony can be used as sarcasm, right? Right. A beer, a shot of whiskey, and a glass of wine have all been shown to help prevent heart attacks. Doesn't mean it isn't harmful when used in quantities high even to induce a buzz. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

As exhibit A, Michael Phelps' performance in the 2008 summer Olympics... Blues, Dave You don't need need much smarts to swim fast. Fish do it all the time. Of course, all the studies can be wrong. The diminished brain capacity could be the cause of marijuana use, not the result. I suspect it's a combination of both. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Take the kid in, fix him up, and his parents can do what they can around the hospital to work off some of the bill. Janitorial duties, groundskeeping, etc. They'll never be able to work off all of it, or even a very big share of it, but they may as well do something constructive while the child is healing and they are all awaiting deportation. If they don't want to work...they can be deported immediatley (just the parents, not the kid). HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

It says volumes about the integrity of our last few Presidents when we all are surprised when one of them acts in a mature fashion. Admitting your own mistakes and taking responsibility for them is something that should be so common that we should be astonished when they don't admit fault, yet we have all come to accept it as the norm for them not to. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Then we agree. Don't bother apologizing for insinuating that I'm a liar. Any apology posted in SC would ruin the entire atmosphere. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

If you don't want people to get mad, don't infer that they are liars. However, on the other hand, if you don't care if you make someone mad then have at it. Just don't act surprised when they do get mad. Just to clarify why i chose the name i did, we'll do a little comparison. I drink maybe 6 or 8 beers a month, rarely more than one a day and never more than two. Often they are non-alcoholic (though they still have a very minute trace). Beer is a non-issue in my life. If it were to become unavailable to me i would not miss it. I had my Belgians for over 10 years. They were a pair of brothers raised and trained by the Amish to work fileds, pull wagons, logs, sleds, drags, etc. Anyone who has ever owned and cared for a horse knows how close a person gets to them. Yeah, my name is all about beer. NOT! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

You're upset because i look down upon people who get high. For your information, I dont' confine that view to only those who smoke pot. I also look down upon those who drink to get drunk. I see both as lack of good judgement and an incapability to handle reality. It's pretty bad when the best argument you can post is deriding someone's avatar and screen name just because you don't know what they mean. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I'm not trying to tell anybody what they can or can't put into their body. I've even stated that i think weed should be legalized. All I've been saying is two things. 1: People who defend its use should stop saying it is harmless. It is not. It has risks the same as any other chemical substance that alters a persons physiological state. 2: If people choose to use pot they need to accept that a lot of people, myself included, will see that decision as an indicator of poor judgement. And, i will add, that squirrel is of legal age. In squirrel years. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Are you calling me a liar? I'd tell you what I think of for that insinuation but since you are a mod, and have already given me two weeks off once before, that wouldn't be a good idea, now would it? So I'll just tell you once again that you are wrong about your supposition. I don't deny any alcohol issues. I have already posted my drinking habits. If you think that constitutes a problem, then it's a good thing you're not the one who decided whether someone has to get treatment or not. I view smoking pot as an immature act of someone who can't handle their problems. It's a poor decision that shows a lack of judgement. You are free to see it differently. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

It's a squirrel. The avatar is a squirrel trying to drink beer from a can using a straw. By using it as my avatar doesn't mean i condone the irresponsible use of beer anymore than someone posting a picture of a raodkilled cat means they condone intentionally running over cats. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I never said they didn't and made no claims that could be interpreted as such. Your post is totally irrelevent as to whether marijuana is harmful or harmless. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.