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This is not a BAR and area 51 had nothing to do with UFO's. AWARE helped to build the airstrips and some of the buildings & towers....they were construction, but Top Secret...they could not talk about what they were building and why. TOP SECRET is how rumors are built. Of course they didn't let the cat out of the bag until 2 or 3 yrs ago...but, most people knew. My then contact was striving for far more than OUR GOVERNMENT chose to release. What the government released was already known...regarding the special plane and the testing of that plane. Since the plane was common knowledge many yrs ago - it was assumed it dealt with UFOs, but what was done there had little to do with UFOs......but, then maybe it did. Communications is the key. It was the efforts of men who worked there who could never talk about their contributions. What this man in WA DC strived to do was to acknowledge the work done there by AWARE....well, guess what - it never happened and that was several yrs ago. He has gone to a better place now, but what he wanted known about all of this - IS still concealed - his goal was ----------. Remember I didn't know about the things Duane discussed with 3 men during our marriage - these 3 men were there and this was what they talked about. (I would not understand this until a few yrs ago). Duane even cautioned one man - to be careful what he said in my presence. I went to bed and I could still hear them talking but they lowered their voices. Another individual had surgery and accidentally let something leak. He passed it off and made me promise not to tell Duane what he said....and that Duane would tell me about it someday. I never discussed with Duane what the man told me. These are the only 2 incidents I will talk about at this time....there are others. The government released some things supposedly 2 or 3 yrs ago, but what they released was COMMON knowledge...OUR GOVERNMENT - still thinks they have to keep some things secret. They did NOT acknowledge the men who kept the secrets. I remember Duane's discussion with one man about the contamination and the health related problems so many of them had. In this same conversation they were discussing Howard Hughes and Mr M. That is right I never told you guys who Mr. M is. Well, I have been hoping Mr. M would finally come forward - but I do not know where he is on this and he only knows me by reputation - the loose Cannon ball that could cause a lot of guys to have spent their Golden yrs in prison. In 2000 there were individuals who wanted to SHUT me up and I will believe until they come forward - that too will be buried. Someone thought Duane had told me things and it was a matter of time before I figured it out...leave the rest to you own imaginations. Ask yourselves what could have been so secret about that facility. Think about the extreme communications abilities needed ....things that are NO longer important because technogy has advanced so quickly. Just technolgy the Government did not want others to know about. One or several of these guys used that technology to pull off the skyjacking in 1971 and actually got away with the crime. NO trace of Cooper was found until 1980. NONE of the copy cats had the knowledge Cooper had. What do I know: I do KNOW I have met others besides Duane who worked there and a man in WA was trying to help. Because of his effort the Government was forced to reveal somethings - but only the things most of us already knew about. It has taken yrs and memories and listening to the stories of others for the fragments to come together...about Duane's life. There will always be missing parts, but he was MORE than just a common criminal - he cared about this country in ways only true Americans feel. A lot of Duane's history and his unusual ability to slide under the table - regarding employment are in itself part ot the answers. Ex-cons where NOT suppose to work in his occupation. I have heard every excuse for this that has come down the pike...but to maintain the income and the position Duane did - he had to have had help from a source higher than himself. BYE! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

YES! The Dr fired me because of my refusal and I fired him after presenting a list of prescibed drugs versus the transcript from my pharmacy of all drugs filled and received by me over a 2 yr period of time. Drugs prescibed with 2 or 3 refills - DOES not mean the patient actually filled the script or refilled the script. Perhaps the Dr is a jumper and a pilot and he is aware of WHO I am. I cant figure out what you are saying Jo. Are you saying that someone other than you got the pain med refills? 377 RE-READ Mr. Attorney - hope you do not do those kinds or interperations with your clients. Medications are often prescribed with refills available....does NOT mean the patient purchased the refills. This was my case. The doctor looks at the transcript from your family Dr and it shows he order a drug for you with 3 refills. But if the patient NEVER refills the drugs and there is a problem - then the patient has to prove it was not refilled. Many seniors were FORCED into pain management which then controls the medication and you have to go see them EVERYMONTH to get your renewal. This happened because of GREED - those who are only there to drain medicare. The procedure should be very simple and up front...which is what I did. A list of all medications prescribe by all physician. Also note the number of refills listed. Then go to your drug store: The drug store will print out a list of ALL of the drugs the patient has ACTUALLY filled in a 2 yr period of time. 1. In other words a Dr prescibes a medication for pain with 2 refills. 2. The patient NEVER refills the medication, because they don't need it or it had an adverse affect and some like me refuse certain medication can be addictive. 3. The list the states work off only shows what was prescribed and not what the patient actually bought and used. Just another expense and misuse of medicare by the system. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

NO one ever thought the money was at the FBI office. It is a well known fact the money was from the bank and the extra cash kept for such circumstances. YES, since the "withdrawal" was after HOURS - an after the fact documentation had to be done regarding the out of business hour transfer from the bank to NWA and then to the FBI for delivery. NWA had made arrangement with banks to handle such transfers as did other airlines. The paper work had to be done the next business day. Evidently it took lots of paper work per what you presented. ========================== Vicki: The paper work you presented was the reimbursement regarding NWA liability insurance...which covered ransom up to x # of dollars. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

YES! The Dr fired me because of my refusal and I fired him after presenting a list of prescibed drugs versus the transcript from my pharmacy of all drugs filled and received by me over a 2 yr period of time. Drugs prescibed with 2 or 3 refills - DOES not mean the patient actually filled the script or refilled the script. Perhaps the Dr is a jumper and a pilot and he is aware of WHO I am. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have taken my medication so now it is OFF to bed. I am repeating my post just so you will know I am AWARE and you are NOT aware. Robert you didn't say that, but I now known the truth, but more than likely the government will never let it be known. Duane was involved with a group of guys with AWARE. Air Base Constuctors. They were involved in the construction of air bases for the government. To include the airstrips and some of the building in and on government facilities, with one of these located in Nevada.. Contrary to rumors this was not a facility to hide UFO's, but to conduct experiments on new aircraft. This group was not a government group, but contracted by the government....some were ex-cons and some ex-military. Some just wanted to be part of the war efforts in some way...and some just needed work to provide for their families. Some of these men remained life long friends because they could only talk about what they did within their own circle. I now know that most of the individuals Duane mentioned were connect to this group and their efforts. Duane was a troubled young man who was thrust into this because of his strong need to be part of the effort even though he just did NOT fit in the military....He was eager to please as was the man I knew and married in 1978. Some of the people I met from his past had a connections to AWARE. I was totally naive about any of this but it was a part of his life before I was 20 yrs old. I now know what Duane tried desperately to tell me during those last 5 yrs and mostly in the last yr of his life. The secrets that our government kept. A man who worked with the government had a long conversation with me about 3 yrs before he died. What he told me was vague, but he tried to get the government to acknowledge the efforts of a different kind of hero - those who could not be acknowledged in 1968 by the U.S.Government. When I started to understand this 3 yrs later I contact the man's brother - he knew what his brother had tried to do before his death. A handful of these men would remain loyal to their small group till they died. I do NOT know if any of them are still alive and if so they would be in their 80's and 90's now. There was a few yrs ago some members who tried to get acknowledgement of the activities they conducted and contributed to. The only things released by the U.S.Government in recent yrs was to explain the experiments in Reno and the Nevada area - but, it was white washed by our government even then. The US did not want to admit to the truths. THe skyjacking of a 727 in Nov of 1971 had continually been covered-up up because of the individuals involved....and the man on the street nor the FBI agents would have no knowledge of their involvements. Some of these individuals were questioned regarding the skyjacking, but then someone decided to WHITE WASH the truths...Now I know why Knoss continually screamed WHITE WASH to me. He was not in his right mind & I do not know his status to this day...but, I do believe buried within his memory the truths had real roots. He created myths and stories, but within them was some real memories. Other individuals tried to contact me but, using fake names & odd stories, but they all went in the same direction. I do not know how many of the men I may actually have met over the yrs connected to their effort to protect but do no harm...but they did have one farewell get-to-gether and that is when I met people I now know were involve in other actions - coverts or secret groups and actions the US Government never acknowledged and never will. There was only one Cooper, but there were many heros involved in the things they did....there was also many who did things they should NOT have done and was not sanctioned by the group (call it an organization for lack of another word to use). This group would not disband in it entirety until the 1980's. Everyone knew they were on their own and they could never tell what they did - note this involved far more than a skyjacking. There are the naive who would like to believe NO such group of men existed and call them by many names. Some were just common criminals for hire, but each action was thought to be a contribution. Some sanctioned and some not....but they had a pac and they kept that pac... I realize now I attended 2 functions designed to appear to be just a party, but knowing the individuals who were in attendance - this was more than just happen chance. They were very diversified - some became very important people, but they were bound by one thread. Within the boundaries of the law they would be called many names and some considered criminals. What they did was NOT within the law - it was outside of the law, but it was the right thing to do - at least in each man's own eyes or as groups at the time. Now, I know, but like Duane - the truths will more than likely die with me. I tried to do what I thought was the right thing to do, but there was still individuals who could have been prosecuted, but I was NOT aware of what I had stepped into. I can wish that the GOVERMENT would acknowledge these individuals, but be assure they never will. All of you can make whoever you wish to be Cooper, but NONE of you will ever be able to prove a specific person was Cooper....there are still a couple left who are still alive and both tried to tell me, but I did not hear them - only because I did not see the whole picture. Now I think I do - and wish those still living thought they could trust me with the truth - actually they have, but could not reveal themselves. I know 2 who are still alive, but do not live in the USA. Will they leave the truths behind - I do not know. I think one of them is trying to write the tell ALL book to be published after his death. So have fun trying to put this all together - you will get NO where. With media sources as they exist today - hopefully this one person will leave the book to be remembered & tell ALL of the stories. I truely hope so & that he gives everyone credit where credit is due and tells all the dirty secrets they felt forced to keep - to preserve the truths as they knew them...and the real stories are acknowledged. So many have taken the secrets with them to preserve the freedom of the others - but, truely hope the last ones down will tell the truth in its entirety. The stories of these men are so vast and diverified I doubt all they did will be acknowledged, but the stories need to be told. This goes way beyond a skyjacking. Have fun, but remember some of these men were actually heros & some where just common criminals out to make a buck & to use what they knew to make a life for themselves. Some who would be considered to be common criminals and murders may actually have been doing what they thought was the right thing to do considering the circumstances. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

When I spoke of conspiracy - I was not heard so it was easier to make Duane the bad guy out. If Duane Weber was a simple crook and acted alone - how do you explain his background - the background I presented that no one believed. You make a summarization and one I was forced to make over the yrs...no one wanted to believe in a conspiracy and now you are spouting one. How you do borrow ideas - do you not have an original ideal? When I mentioned conspiracy I was dissed so I step away from that. You do not know nor do I know. A man whose picture is shown all over the world & NO one recognizes him. Would you not have assumed he acted on his own. When I spoke of conspiracy I was dissed - the public seemed to think he was a loner and acted on his own. Do you remember the stories I told about the people we met and the background of these people - some who just poofed! Even the FBI didn't question the individuals from the past, just those of recent yrs...before his death. They questioned NO one in the life of Weber prior to 1966 because 1962 to 1966 was a BLANK The lady of the day from 1962 to 1968 - her background was just as convoluted as that of Weber. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Robert you didn't say that, but I now known the truth, but more than likely the government will never let it be known. Duane was involved with a group of guys with AWARE. Air Base Constuctors. They were involved in the construction of air bases for the government. To include the airstrips and some of the building in and on government facilities, with one of these located in Nevada.. Contrary to rumors this was not a facility to hide UFO's, but to conduct experiments on new aircraft. This group was not a government group, but contracted by the government....some where ex-cons and some ex-military. Some just wanted to be part of the war efforts in some way...and some just needed work to provide for their families. Some of these men remained life long friends because they could only talk about what they did within their own circle. I now know that most of the individuals Duane mentioned were connect to this group and their efforts. Duane was a troubled young man who was thrust into this because of his strong need to be part of the effort even though he just did NOT fit in the military....He was eager to please as was the man I knew and married in 1978. Some of the people I met from his past had a connections to AWARE. I was totally naive about any of this but it was a part of his life before I was 20 yrs old. I now know what Duane tried desperately to tell me during those last 5 yrs and mostly in the last yr of his life. The secrets that our government kept. A man who worked with the government had a long conversation with me about 3 yrs before he died. What he told me was vague, but he tried to get the government to acknowledge the efforts of a different kind of hero - those who could not be acknowledged in 1968 by the U.S.Government. When I started to understand this 3 yrs later I contact the man's brother - he knew what his brother had tried to do before his death. A handful of these men would remain loyal to their small group till they died. I do NOT know if any of them are still alive and if so they would be in their 80's and 90's now. There was a few yrs ago some members who tried to get acknowledgement of the activities they conducted and contributed to. The only things released by the U.S.Government in recent yrs was to explain the experiments in Reno and the Nevada area - but, it was white washed by our government even then. The US did not want to admit to the truths. THe skyjacking of a 727 in Nov of 1971 had continually been covered-up because of the individuals involved....and the man on the street nor the FBI agents would have no knowledge of their involvements. Some of these individuals were questioned regarding the skyjacking, but then someone decided to WHITE WASH the truths...Now I know why Knoss continually screamed WHITE WASH to me. He was not in his right mind & I do not know his status to this day...but, I do believe buried within his memory the truths had real roots. He created myths and stories, but within them was some real memories. Other individuals tried to contact me but, using fake names & odd stories, but they all went in the same direction. I do not know how many of the men I may actually have met over the yrs connected to their efforts to protect but do no harm...but they did have one farewell get-to-gether and that is when I met people I now know were involve in other actions - coverts or secret groups and actions the US Government never acknowledged and never will. There was only one Cooper, but there were many heros involved in the things they did....there was also many who did things they should NOT have done and was not sanctioned by the group (call it an organization for lack of another word to use). This group would not disband in it entirety until the 1980's. Everyone knew they were on their own and they could never tell what they did - note this involved far more than a skyjacking. There are the naive who would like to believe NO such group of men existed and call them by many names. Some were just common criminals for hire, but each action was thought to be a contribution. Some sanctioned and some not....but they had a pac and they kept that pac... I realize now I attended 2 functions designed to appear to be just a party, but knowing the individuals who were in attendance (after the fact)- this was more than just happen chance. They were very diversified - some became very important people, but they were bound by one thread. Within the boundaries of the law they would be called many names and some considered criminals. What they did was NOT within the law - it was outside of the law, but it was the right thing to do - at least in each man's own eyes or as groups. Now, I know, but like Duane - the truths will more than likely die with me. I tried to do what I thought was the right thing to do, but there was still individuals who could have been prosecuted, but I was NOT aware of what I had stepped into. I can wish that the GOVERMENT would acknowledge these individuals, but be assure they never will. All of you can make whoever you wish to be Cooper, but NONE of you will ever be able to prove a specific person was Cooper....there are still a couple left who are still alive and both tried to tell me, but I did not hear them - only because I did not see the whole picture. Now I think I do - and wish those still living thought they could trust me with the truth - actually they have, but could not reveal themselves. I know 2 who are still alive, but do not live in the USA. Will they leave the truths behind? I do not know. I think one of them is trying to write the tell ALL book to be published after his death. So have fun trying to put this all together - you will get NO where. With media sources as they exist today - hopefully this one person will leave the book to be remembered & tell ALL of the stories. I truely hope so & that he gives everyone credit where credit is due and tells all the dirty secrets they felt forced to keep - to preserve the truths as they knew them...and the real stories are acknowledged. So many have taken the secrets with them to preserve the freedom of the others - but, truely hope the last ones down will tell the truth in its entirety. The stories of these men are so vast and diverified I doubt all they did will be acknowledged, but the stories need to be told. This goes way beyond a skyjacking. Have fun, but remember some of these men were actually heros & some where just common criminals out to make a buck & to use what they knew to make a life for themselves. Some who would be considered to be common criminals and murders may actually have been doing what they thought was the right thing to do considering the circumstances. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

While you are at it, you could also make sure that you stay honest on this site. 18C is Galen Cook! Up to his old games AGAIN! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The early history of the Cooper incident has all, but been lost. Perhaps we should make outselves useful to the cause. An ACCUMULATION OF ALL OF THE EARLY NEWS ARTICLE REGARDING THE EPISODE. ARTICLES AND STORIES ABOUT THE FIRST SUSPECTS AND WHAT THE FBI WAS DOING. EVEN HIMMELSBACH LEAVES THIS OUT OF HIS BOOK AND NO ONE EVER REALLY ADDRESSES ALL THE LEADS FOLLOWED AND THE ENDING RESULTS. It is a given there was suspects checked out - like Rakestraw (this on still bugs me because the name Rakestraw comes up in my investigation), but no knowledge if he was connected to the Rakestraw who was briefly looked at. The pilot who owned the AirPark. I can't find the first article about that now - but, there was an article about this & Mr. H told me about this & I read things about it in the very beginning. The articles regarding the investigations of some of the jumpers in the area and Guys who went to a Jumpers Bar in Orchards. Those who jumped at Hattaways old grounds - the one on 500 and the one north of there were a golf course is now. ALL of this stuff seems to have evaporated in time - like it never exsisted....43 yrs and poof the old stories are gone. We or someone needs to start accumulating all of the OLD stuff before it no longer exists...some of it now no longer exist - at least not that I have been able to find. There was an article about the man at Air ParK - now it went POOF. I just hope I have an old hard copy, but I doubt it. A lot of things I knew were what Mr. H told me and doesn't mean there is an article or a file on it. THE FBI should OPEN all of the preliminary files so the infromation can be reviewes thru new technology and without bias. Some of these article have been buried because of privacy issue, but that was NOT an issue in 1970's then when it became an issue - lets hope the old article have NOT all been destroyed. OK how about it - make outselves useful instead of a hinderance. Make this thread count for something. Make the yrs we have spent at this count...put together and history of all of the suspects investigated and not invesgitated and a list of all of the leads investigated and where or why these leads failed. ARE any of you able to stay focused to do such a project? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

ANYONE REMEMBER WHEN COOK WAS POSTING - DATES AND NAME's USED? I KNOW HE USED LOTS OF PUPPETS EVEN AFTER QUADE BAN HIM. I JUST DO NOT REMEMBER THE date HE WAS HERE...USED A STRANGE NAME & MADE A FEW POSTINGS. WAS BAN & THEN came BACK UNDER ANOTHER NAME. QUADE CAUGHT HIM & BAN HIM FOR LIFE. I do not remember the details.. He had no place to go to bash others....until the other site was created. As many of you know he made some very horrible accustions about Jo that caused some serious problems with her medical care. One of the specialist I lost cannot be replaced & now I will need to travel to Jacksonville or B'ham for the test he & his office conducted locally. His slanderous allegations made in a public forum cause the Dr. to require I go to pain management but I take hardly any pain meds. & the records proved this beyond a doubt. There are NO other physicians who can provide the procedure in the area. I am unable to travel for treatment so therefore I have not had the necessary testing needed to track the intestinal problems. One of the specialist I lost cannot be replaced and now I will need to travel to Jacksonville or Birmingham for the test he & his office conducted locally. I am not financially nor physically able to travel 5 to 7 hours for medical testing....hotels rooms, car rental, meals, etc. I also CAN NOT sit long enough to make the trip. I contacted a local attorney, but have not heard back from him. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Have you met her, Do you see the suffering on her face - leave her be - it has been 43 yrs. I spoke with her one time and what I heard in her voice has haunted me since that day in 2004 - 10 yrs ago. She does NOT need her picture flaunted on the internet in a thread day after day and some of us who do know about her struggles are NOT comfortable with her being abused or torchered the way the media and certain OBTUSE writers have been know to do in the past. She has been hounded and her family has been hounded by individuals like Galen Cook and Bruce Smith and multiple others over the yrs. The above are the 2 most recent ones. I for one do not like to see the torcher in her eyes everyday - evidently you are not aware of this or you just do not care how others feel or might react. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Hello GALEN - you are back. ONLY U would use Tina's Picture - how OBTUSE! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

PLEASE change your AVATAR. Those of us closely attached to this are offended when someone uses Tina as an AVATAR...she has been persecuted enough....DO this out of RESPECT. You may think it is cute but you have to understand what this crime did to that girl and how it altered her life. Use Himmelsbach picture but do NOT use Tina - the one who was caused the most harm by Cooper. Thank YOU....please - using her picture is in VERY poor taste. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

We are cracking up but he is probably out of his mind thinking he is being persecuted....but, if he has actually been bannished we need to know what he did to be bannished. Any ONE of us could be NEXT. I think it is just a glich - because my postings went poof per the guys who post here. I was unaware of that until now....but, what I did when I got the SPAM report was to immediately contact both guys (the owner and the moderator) about what I did.... and that I didn't know what the button was and hit it to see what it meant.....I did that three time to myself. So Blevins has NO idea we can't read his postings? He thinks everything is normal. Do any of you know how upsetting that must be to him? Being cruel & saying cruel things about someone not able to be here to defend themselves is really very cruel & childish. Perhaps some of your time would be better used to find new clues regarding the tower off of 500 and the prior owner of that park having been investigated regarding Cooper in the early weeks after the Skyjacking. Get curious and try to find any information regarding the man you can... When Jo decides to take something public you know she has thought it over....Perhaps some of the early FBI research made available to the public...and any news article or any mention of this Air Park Owner on 500 in any book might deter me from making a fool out of myself publically. My search capabilities are limited because of AOL and my old computer. Don't even suggest a new one and a network - they do NOT fit into my budget as this time with all of the expenses I am incurring lately. Yet,I am in a better positition than most seniors.... Having to pay someone to do what I used to do for myself....simple things like weed the landscape, spray chemicals for weed, trim hedges & treat for all the BUGS we have in FL. All of that does not help the budget. Taxes are getting out of hand & the home repairs are OUT landish. The market is in the bucket and yet the cost of a home in Ga closer to my daughter is very expensive... What I would get out of this house won't buy much in Ga or S.C. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Unfortunately, yes. We can see it just as well as we could the first 10 times you posted that information. Robt99 I had not posted some of that information until recently - but, with some other postings that got zapped, I just needed to know\ if they could be seen. Don't worry I won't be reposting them again. In the event you are not aware of it most of my postings are in reply to the subject at hand or I ask questions about prior postings from others. What has happened in the last couple of weeks - is very important to me. Sorry I repeated them. What will become of this I know not. Seems like someone else was very interested in what I revealed. You only support postings that affirm you theory....sorry mind do not. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

When I started to put others before myself and make efforts to resolve Vickie's search for her father - everything else just happened. I hope I am not the only one who can see these important posting! Are the postings I made about Vickie's father still there - I have not heard from her and no word yet about the article. I know some where in my vast files I did have a COPY of that news article the Sentinel carried from a now defunct small town paper in South Florida. I actually spoke with the man who took care of the guy who got in trouble and could not get assistance. This man made sure - the guy who had been in trouble for counterfeiting 20's did not go without the necessities until his death. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Can you guys see this post - when the memories came like the opening of the flood gates on a dam? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You ARE damn right he did his homework....a call was placed to a man with Boeing who was a friend of Duane's brother - none other than Stanley McGuilliam. Stanley Gilliams wife was the daugter of Duane' mothers' best friend and the 2 children were born a month apart. Mrs Weber - Duane's mother was Best friends with the mother of Stanley Gilliams wife. Stanley Gilliams wife was born Eunice Barth. --- THINK about this for a while before you jump the gun. The Barth brothers where instrumental in the Weber's moving to CA. One of the Barth brothers live in WA. A man by the name of Barth was also instrumental in Duane NOT being encarcerate on site at McNeil. That was the friends of the family who intervened to keep Duane out of McNeil - There were other family connections in WA. Duane's mother used to go to see them in WA when Duane was a young boy - and she took Duane on those trips. Duane & the woman who became Stanley Gillaim's wife were born ONE month apart - their mother's were best friends. Stanley met his bride thru these family connections.. Louise Barth (Eunice Barth's mother) and Lorraine Wenz Beechler (Duane Weber's mother) were BEST friends and often traveled between Ohio, Wa and Ca to see each other. The Wuestney was the connection. I finally found what Duane's sister so desperately tried to tell me in my last phone call with her...She told me to write it down - but the storm just hit and I do NOT mean the Great Tornado Lorraine in Ohio. GUYS this is OVER! Louise and Lorraine gave birth to a girl and a boy in 1924 one month apart. That would be Duane and Eunice who would become the bride of Stanley Gilliam....many yrs later. IF you GUYS do NOT see it NOW then YOU NEVER WILL! Duane grew up to become a criminal and Eunice married Gilliam who was a friend of JOHN Weber (Duane's brother). IF you don't get it now you never will! THIS is OVER and I do mean OVER. I have SAT on this hoping the FAMILY of Gilliam would finally come forward - but there are things that will not wait on MOTHER time & I have to tell this NOW. Copy this post and KEEP it forever. The KEY that unlocks the SECRETS. The words that Duane's sister said on the PHONE the last time we got to speak to each other. She wanted me to know, but I expect her son did not want the family secrets known...he was career military. Learn about the past of John Collins (Duane's brother and Stanley Gilliam) and then weep for the LOST yrs. I tried to tell the FBI this for YRS and NO one would listen. Both John & Stanley worked for Boeing at the same time in WA - they where very good friends. Duane used and abused that friendship to commit the only unsolve skyjacking in history. Duane and Stanley's wife were born 1 month apart. The mother of Stanley's wife was a very dear Friend of Duane's mother & they made trips to see each other often. This journey is coming to an end very soon and I also have some information for Vickie...but, she has not answered my email... Vickie CALL me! or Email me.

You ARE damn right he did his homework....a call was placed to a man with Boeing who was a friend of Duane's brother - none other than Stanley McGuilliam. Stanley Gilliams wife was the daugter of Duane' mothers' best friend and the 2 children were born a month apart. Mrs Weber - Duane's mother was Best friends with the mother of Stanley Gilliams wife. Stanley Gilliams wife was born Eunice Barth. --- THINK about this for a while before you jump the gun. The Barth brothers where instrumental in the Weber's moving to CA. One of the Barth brothers live in WA. A man by the name of Barth was also instrumental in Duane NOT being encarcerate on site at McNeil. That was the friends of the family who intervened to keep Duane out of McNeil - There were other family connections in WA. Duane's mother used to go to see them in WA when Duane was a young boy - and she took Duane on those trips. Duane & the woman who became Stanley Gillaim's wife were born ONE month apart - their mother's were best friends. Stanley met his bride thru these family connections.. Louise Barth (Eunice Barth's mother) and Lorraine Wenz Beechler (Duane Weber's mother) were BEST friends and often traveled between Ohio, Wa and Ca to see each other. The Wuestney was the connection. I finally found what Duane's sister so desperately tried to tell me in my last phone call with her...She told me to write it down - but the storm just hit and I do NOT mean the Great Tornado Lorraine in Ohio. GUYS this is OVER! Louise and Lorraine gave birth to a girl and a boy in 1924 one month apart. That would be Duane and Eunice who would become the bride of Stanley Gilliam....many yrs later. IF you GUYS do NOT see it NOW then YOU NEVER WILL! Duane grew up to become a criminal and Eunice married Gilliam who was a friend of JOHN Weber (Duane's brother). IF you don't get it now you never will! THIS is OVER and I do mean OVER. I have SAT on this hoping the FAMILY of Gilliam would finally come forward - but there are things that will not wait on MOTHER time & I have to tell this NOW. Copy this post and KEEP it forever. The KEY that unlocks the SECRETS. The words that Duane's sister said on the PHONE the last time we got to speak to each other. She wanted me to know, but I expect her son did not want the family secrets known...he was career military. Learn about the past of John Collins (Duane's brother and Stanley Gilliam) and then weep for the LOST yrs. I tried to tell the FBI this for YRS and NO one would listen. Both John & Stanley worked for Boeing at the same time in WA - they where very good friends. Duane used and abused that friendship to commit the only unsolve skyjacking in history. Duane and Stanley's wife were born 1 month apart. The mother of Stanley's wife was a very dear Friend of Duane's mother & they made trips to see each other often. This journey is coming to an end very soon and I also have some information for Vickie...but, she has not answered my email... Vickie CALL me! or Email me.

I didn't know the postings disappeared, but I did SPAM myself 3 times because I didn't know what the icon was....just stupid old lady. NOW I know to void that thing. Now Georger kept telling everyone he was going to report spam on certain individuals, but what the person was doing was NOT Spam. I always assumed Spamming was advertisement. Maybe Blevins continually promoting his book and the events is considered spamming. Who knows! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo, The FBI won't be interested in looking at a disjointed account of places Duane has been and people he knew. To get the FBI's attention you will need to produce solid UNEQUIVOCAL evidence that connects Duane with Norjack. There are other ways you could look at the last 18 years other than "a waste". This case has been a passion for you. Many older people have nothing in their lives that they are passionate about and truly waste their time mindlessly watching TV etc. You have been busy, involved and your passion connects you with many people. Many of your cohorts would envy you. 377 I know where the death certificates are and the OBIT was closed...but, all I have to do is prove that woman was the wife of another suspect and go public with it... All I have done for the last 18 yrs won't mean crap in the grave, but I have finally got something the FBI needs to check out - expect they will wait for my OBIT, but before that happens I will make a trip to WA. Have to sell some things and I am working on that so I have the funds to GO as soon as I have a commitment...and a place to stay in Seattle or near by that is NOT too expensive...have no idea how long I will need to be there. My birthday is next wk and maybe the truths were made available to me - a gift from the dead so to speak! Also NOTE the garbage being spewed from the wounded. Those who are no longer here in this thread are reportedly spewing bitters. Unbelievable what extent some people will go to - but, it makes me think - WHY? Why pepper a thread with gibberish and then gripe about being disciplined? I am just shaking my head at the ignorance of those who supposedly are top of the line in intellect. Makes me think the individuals were a set-up to keep everyone focused on false and improvised information. Perhaps even to defuse Jo and do whatever to it took to make me go away. I have to THANK the DZ for seeing this thru....now it is just a matter of getting to the public and past the FBI. I not one time requested others to use their real names. I used mine because it was essential and the one who caused the most problem in this thread was a man posting only with his created avatar name. If one wants to remain unknown to others perhaps they should have been more discrete regarding making inflamatory remarks with demeaning post by others....to include unintelligible gibberish just to use up time & space. Why blame everything on someone else...If one does NOT want their name known in the Cooper world perhaps they should have stayed home....or found other things to do beside interact in a thread about solving a real crime. To be respected is to have earned it. There is nothing to be gained by playing games & making slurs about others with an interest is the same subject. Everything I learned today about certain individuals - makes one wonder what their motive was in the first place...did the individuals actually come to the DZ to investigate or sabotag any efforts to uncover the truths? Supposedly (per others) I was viciously attacking other (posters in and off the thread) and that included Mr. Himmeslbach a man I think highly of....just shaking my head at the thought! Even went so far as to state that Quade was concerned about my off the forum activities... Seriously doubt Quade was concerned on that point. WHAT was my objectivity in coming to the DZ? To learn more about the man I spent 18 yrs with & find the links to the past. For 18 yrs I dug into the past of Duane L. Weber. Without the DZ - I would never ever have found or been able to reconcile all of the information and memories triggered by the discussions we have had. When in these yrs has Quade had reason to be concerned about my activities OFF the thread as claimed by a prior poster? Individual here I communicated with on the phone? Besides the FBI agent... we all know who the other ones where! JT and I had communicated almost from the beginning - 1997. Bruce found the DZ through me... Also Galen found the DZ thru me. What matters right now is what I have found & how to get it to the public and hope all the records have NOT been destroyed By getting it to the public - I mean getting it in to the hands of REAL investigator who can actually try to put this together. Problem is - I do NOT know how many are alive and/or how much they knew or if they are even viable living persons at this time. They would all be my age 74 or Duane's age if living 90. I am just glad it is over - other than having the FBI confronted - we all know were that will go. So going public is the only option it seems....but do I even have the energy, time or strenght to do that....? Might be too much too late. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Why do people put their lives a risk for a thrill? I never understood that. Heights terrify me be it a steep small mountain and I am in a car look down into ravines.....looking down the passenger side. Driving in Ky after Duane died - I went to Casey County (Bradfordville - before they close the old road)...did not seem as bad sitting in the drivers seat.... In WA in 2010, I was creeping up and down that little mountain and had to pull over several times so others could pass me - I was holding them up. Of course I was looking for that place Duane had pointed out to me on our way to Washougal in 1979 - so I was in NO hurry. Going to Washougal on the return trip in that area was NO big deal...I couldn't see the ravine from the drivers side. I thought I might see a response to my post about all of the ladies and certain parties in Duane's life. Sure would like to know what name he was using at that time. I know when we ran into Mildred he made a point not to let me know there was a point of recognition. I guess he needed to go back to see her without me - so he could get the NAME thing taken care of. Evidently the name he knew her under was NOT Duane Weber. Now I know so much, but NO one wants to know nor do they care. Since I did not know their connection was WA...I asked no questions...BUT, when thought I knew who she was she had deceased. I tried to find information about 4 yrs ago, but gave up....Now I know. If the FBI had known in 1996 - then this would all be over with! They didn't take the time to ask me the right question and the FBI agent from Florida knew Jack Ass about Cooper. He did tell me had to research the subject before coming to see me...so he was not privey to the questions nor did he ask the questions someone from WA would have asked. I did discuss this some time back when I was doing my search, but did NOT know the woman whose past I tried to chase was RIGHT there in front of me...All those yrs she kept the secret and maybe why she moved out of the area. It was just a happen chance I run back into this a few wks ago...What a CHASE this has been! I was still naive even after Duane died....he certainly knew how to pick em....I was actually his cover in more ways than one. 18 yrs I was a shield - gives me the shivers just thinking about it. What would he have done if I had found out the truth....just leave or worst....After all I have found out about Weber - I really do NOT know who I was married to. He was two entirely different men but he was one. How can someone pull this off all of those yrs. 1971 to 1995. He was married to me 18 yrs of that time! I have to give him credit he must have been terrified I would find out and he would go back to prison....I have to believe for my own sanity that he loved me enough to change. He did try to tell me those last 5 yrs - but I am the one who stopped him. I knew he had a past, but the little I did know - I just blocked out...and I did NOT ask question even when he was trying to tell me during his last yr - I am the one who BLOCKED him with statements like...."I know you have a past it is not part of our lives" and I was also very naive about the criminal world - never thought it would ever touch me or my family. When he told me about Jefferson I started to block things he told me completely out of my mined. Now I wonder if he stayed with me out of Love or if it was fear of prison and no way to run because he was sick....he was hooked to a machine 2 or 3 times a week. If he was found out he couldn't run, so he would sit in a prison cell till he died...putting me and my family under a microscop and cause us undue grief...he thought th world of my father and for the first time he had a family! I can only imagine what must have gone thru his mind in those last yrs. I think all of this iw why kept coming back to me - in dreams. One he was a vagran on the beach and I told the man how much he looked like my husband and was taking him in a beach resturant to feed him. I left my purse while I went to the ladies room and when I came out he was not there and my purse was gone....It was left hanging on a gate going out of the entrance and my car was gone. So he had my keys and my wallet. A note attached said TRUST NO ONE! Then I woke up! This last 18 yrs has been a waste of my life ,but I just have to look at it this way - It is what it is! What was meant to be has been....but, now I know the answers. The last problem is how do I get the FBI to look at this? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Never could hit the ball with a baseball bat....because my hand to eye co-ordination is very poor. Always strunk out. NOW, I am going to list some names and want to know if any of you can trace them....Bare in mind I did find one of them yrs ago and her name I will not list. All of them are older than myself so that puts them in their late 80 to mid 90's or no longer alive. Recognize the names? Think AWARE and CA and WA. Suzie Hadden Joan Garrity Barbie Haskell Mildred Ford Candace Baker Mildred Nicolisen Kawaguchi - several of them One I found is not mentioned, but we have had several conversations over the yrs. Could Suzie be related to the Hadden who supplied the chutes? Probably not! But maybe! Joan Garrity - well, I have discussed her before and she is deceased. She was the woman who was the target of my trip to WA in 2010. She was an artist and had an antique shope in Or and someone Duane knew! Mildred Ford - who was her husband? Anyone know a suspect by the name of Ford who was questioned in regards to Cooper? Mildred Nicolisen - perhaps I added that name to confuse you and maybe not. Baker - probably no relation to Jerry. Kawaguchi - so many of them, but what was the nationality? Wonder if it is connected to Wong - nah probably different nationality connection than Wong...but did the wives take their husbands names? Barbie Haskell - that name seems more than familiar to me. Does it ring any bells with any of you regarding the 1940's and 1950's? Nava Streeter - was this not the wife of another suspect who was ruled out? I believe for some reason that name connects with Coffelt - nah just shear co-incidence. Kawaguchi What was the name of a man who was in the search for Cooper who went to Hawaii to live. We discussed him in the thread. How is that name connected to a woman not named who contacted me thru Margie. Sure a lot of co-incidences in the life of Duane Weber. A lot of unexplained yrs and associations. All of these names are in ONE book and all of them had more than one thing in common. What was it? Base yourself for CA and WA and find the connections. I noted the thread is very silent so there must be some sporting event going on tonight....?

DO YOUR DAMN RESEARCH ABOUT THE 40's IN MCNEIL......the first reforms started just about the time Duane was sent to McNeil....There is an old archived book about McNeil - but it is very difficult to obtain just to read. READ it and WEEP for the first time offenders who were sentenced to that prison - it was a FEDERAL prison in 1945. It was the WORSE of the WORSE.... AGAIN you never apply real time to places or people - you write only for sensationalism.... This is much milder than the post I was making that got ZAPPED before I could post it. The book and excerpts from it are in this thread. The book is no longer available anywhere other than the place in the North things like this are archived...such as with the CC camps and what those boys actually experienced in certain camps...the things were so bad - even to this day the names are not available and it is necessary to go the facility and most can still not be accessed. HORRIBLE experiements the government did on the boys who refuse to go to war...some were luck and did forestry work - other were subjected to some HORRIBLE experiments regarding chemical warfare and today are considered inhumane. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Thanks for another tid-bit, Jo, about the cracks in your story, like the piece you used to tell that you had never heard of DB Cooper until Duane's confession in 1995. GO TO HELL! Duane mentioned Cooper in Washington in 1979. Cooper was noted in 1980 when the new article came out about the money find - and by me because I was the one who went out to get the paper. Remember he conveniently arranged for us to go mid-week when a segment was going to on TV about the money find. He shows me in 1993 where McCoy was shot - but NO mention of Cooper He has a book about the jump but lets me think it is about a highjacking - I didn't know it was a book about Cooper...and actually I had forgotten about Cooper at that time - it was just NOT part of my life. When he gets drunk 4 yrs later he does not mention Cooper - just being responsible for someone dying. TAKE you tactics elsewhere and leave me be & write a nice letter to others apologizing for you RUDE technique such as to Tina and to her family. Apologize the family in the east for commercializing their lives and their relationship with Tina. LIKE I have said over and over you would have been a good ENQUIRER writer...Even they had to clean up their tactics after serveral law suits involving abrasive writers and interviews.... Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber