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Answering some question asked of me - but, will address nothing more Jerry has to say because it only creates repetition. ====================== Question: 1 "Please explain something to us. I know it is useless to ask you to drop the riddles and just state what is going on, but maybe you’ll be willing to clear something up (for me, at least). Why do you keep referencing Contentious Objectors (COs)? Are you operating under the impression that Duane was a CO?" Answer: No I do not believe Duane to be a CO's, but the camps housed other individuals besides CO's. Duane wanted to serve - remember he signed up for both the Navy and the Army. There is sufficient information to believe Duane was Place by the system or his family or Hidden in the camp because of a "situation" which will be addressed much later if it becomes necessary to do so. ----------------------------------- Question 2 "After Duane was “kicked out” of the Army and Navy, he attempted to join the Navy again. That isn’t an action of a CO (in my opinion). Now… maybe he “posed” as a CO as a part of some kind of scam he was working on, but he wasn’t a CO. So what’s the CO connection?" Answer: See answer number 1. But, will add I don't think his time at Camino was a part of a "scam". Unless you consider running from the law a scam or his parents/relatives/family friend arranging for him to be placed there to hopefully straighten him out. Good Question and hope this clarifies any mis-understanding about what I have been trying to say.

You have a right to your opinion and your interpertation, but I didn't make illegal recordings of my conversations with you - 99% of these calls were on my nickel and I STILL have the phone bills to prove it. Your story has changed! Remember your insistance? "NO WAY Cooper landed in the Washougal area" --- and now where did you move your search to? You insisted and repeatedly stated Cooper landed a different area - not only to me, but the media. I came across a hard copy of an email to a journalist /writer which maybe what you are referring to. My email to her was an enquiry because of individuals contacting me. Her reply does indicate she thought I wanted her to write a book. I had writers contacting me, but didn't feel I had enough to do something with at that time. What I wanted and needed was an investigative researcher. I had a local man contact me - but, the query letter he did was all lies - with not one word of truth after 12 hours of interviews. I believe Sluggo might be able to verify this story - because the man's contract was based on acceptance by me of an acceptable query letter - I kept the contract in one of the 2 volumes to remind myself of the experience. Outside of this thread I have hard copies of important emails and posts I made. Also, records of every phone call up to 2002. I believe I have covered all of the bases you touched on in your post. What is happening RIGHT NOW has NOTHING to do with you. I have NOTHING more to say to you or about you. ====================== TO ALL:

Another delusion you have is that anybody posting here besides Carr is an FBI agent. I think you are joking about Georger but you think the FBI is conspiring to hide the truth about Cooper. They want the truth just as much as you do Jo. It is a nagging embarrasment that they cannot solve Norjack. They'd love to fix that and have a 1000 batting average on skyjackers. 377 The Lanaman remark was a rib at Georger - I even typed it stating he was Lanaman and then deleted it - maybe it wasn't a joke, but more like a poke in the ribs. Just came natural after I had mentioned this agent I forgot about - it was Georger who asked about that agent I believe, but I didn't search back to verify it. I will admit to believing there are too many secrets kept regarding this case and that lends itself to hiding something, just as we have had writers here who were NOT who we thought they were. Now back to Georger - he made it sound like there was a break in the case because of the post it followed - ( he never comes in with a personal note that spontaneous) and I know something is going on in WA right now. Exactly what they will do about it - I don't know. I am not "just" talking about what I am doing but what someone else is doing, Remember Georger was very protective of Tina, just as I was. It was the only neutral thing between Georger and I. Must be smoking to make a remark like that. But, considering Georger's connection to Tina which was obvious in his posts - and then his sudden departure to the West for 4 days????? Yea! A real Dream! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The first time I talked to you I did not even have a map of any part of the area...just a small map that was in Gunther's book. I described the places and you told me WE had to be at a certain river - and that WE had to have been on I-5. Who was I to dispute the expert..I kept telling you the route (I didn't have names or roads), but you insisted there were NO such places like I described. I had map of half of the US later and gave it another try - and then I was able to tell you we where on Hwy 14 and turned into a small town. With the map I acquired, you were told we turned into Washougal or Camas and that we did not go all the way to Vancouver but, you told me - NO way. I was unable to make you hear what I saw in my head and in my memory - and I didn't find these places with your help - you were the hinderance. Even the TV crew didn't have a clue...it took a truck driver called Udell - and I still think of her as my Wa. Angel. All I had been doing until that time was beating my head against a brick wall - no one would listen to what I was trying to tell them about where Duane took me. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The first drop is resulting in some good information, but it has just been one day. I will say I like what I am hearing and I don't know why I didn't ask for help before - well, I did - I just didn't do it the right way. Camp Bonneville was considered a military ammunitions facility. Larch Mountain Corrections was also known as Larch Mountain Honor Camp in the earlier years and is located east of Hockinson on Larch Mountain. I knew this but didn't know it was orginally an Honor Camp. It is a known fact these guy worked the forestry. There were witnesses who heard the plane just out of Yacolt, which is north of Battle Ground about 11 miles Sluggo will even like hearing that one. Expect to hear more by this week-end - at least I will be able to put this part of the mystery behind me - if I knew what kind of tower - that will help with the connection or association with Duane. It has been stated we could have been further North. For example remember when I realized Duane turned me around down in LaCames Lake and I didn't discover this until a young man sent me a different kind of map to mark for him a few months ago. At 3 AM this marked map was lying on my counter-top when I went to make myself some tea - and low and behold the cotton pickin "hill" was there. I was viewing the map from an angle I had never thought of and feared it would make very thing else wrong, but it actually made it better. This is when I realize that by going up the hill I was turned the other way and what I thought was N.W. was actually S.E. What I am hearing today could be more of the same so I will need to dig out the maps. Was supposed to get another drop ready to go out tomorrow, but guess it won't go out until Weds. The big drop is in June and that one will be big - and expensive, but maybe it won't be needed. You are right 377 - putting Duane on that plane is the "Big One". It is the one I dread the most - because of what I have to do in order to put him on that plane... Discovered something else last night revisiting old files and notes. The FBI told another party they questioned regarding Duane that 2 individuals were involved. Why would the FBI say that to someone they were interviewing? Where they fishing or did they know something? Or was this a couple of FBI agents who didn't have a clue about the incident. Strange this Agent Lanaman seems to have disappeared. Two different parties where witness to this statement from this FBI agent. Amazing what one forgets and how differently the same information looks and sounds after all of these yrs. My memory is surely failing me because just a few wks ago Lanaman was mentioned by one of you - and it had completely escaped me until I had reason to revisit these old files. This woman they interviewed in 1997 begged me for my address and phone number just about 3 months before she died because she had something she wanted to send me......but I was guarded because of my husbands health and I should have know she was failing. She died 2 hours before I made my last call to her three months later. This is a woman I was instructed by the FBI NOT to contact, but I did anyway and I am glad I did and I am glad I took her 2 AM phone calls and I am glad she had someone to confide in - but, I let her down on the end and now I will never know what she wanted to send me. Maybe Georger was agent Lanaman. Would that explain why this woman and her daughter were told there were 2 hijackers? Both of them didn't hear the FBI agent wrong? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Received confirmation things are in process in WA state. More of this Phase I will be sent out this week to yet another location. There will be a total of 6 drops...each drop costs me about $60. I expect what I am doing will be known to others within the next 2 wks. It may NOT prove Duane was Cooper and may not bring resolutions...because the FBI has stated - I have to put him on the plane. Putting him on the plane is Phase II...but first I have to finish Phase I. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Several (over 10) yrs ago I had a conversation with an FBI agent of record. In this conversation when I had been told by this or another Agent that my husband had never been in McNeil. The statement made by this agent is different - Your husband only PASSED thru McNeil. I have had reason to review old files, etc. This statement I did NOT understand at the time as a prior agent had told me that Weber had never been in McNeil. With information acquired in the last yr - I understand what this agent meant and why the sister mentioned he was only there for a very short time... 1. Agent 1 tells me Duane was never in McNeil. 2. Sister tells me that Duane was only processed at McNeil. 3. Agent 2 tells me Duane only passed through. 4. Prison record shows he was a resident of record for several months.

Georger: I fail to understand why this is such an issue with you. Media always does what is better for them in time and space. He died 11 days after the incident describe above. ==================== ONE final time!. The nurses station was right out side of the door - hence why he asked me if there was anyone in the room. I was getting a cigarette out because they allowed him to smoke if I held the cigarette for him (due to the fact that he had broken fingers in his left hand that had not healed from a fall). He motioned that he did not want a cigarette and asked me to come closer (note I was several feet away from him at that moment). I sat down beside his bed after he said he had something to tell me and he motioned for me to come closer. After his confession and several moments of TRYING to explain to me what he was TRYING to tell the BIMBO (me) who Dan Cooper was- THIS WAS WHEN HE SHOUTED "OH, FXXX, LET IT DIE WITH ME!". This was said very loudly and very strongly - 2 nurses came running into the room - thinking he was upset and one of them came back a few moments later with some pills or a shot (I don't remember). There was NO ONE present in the room until he shouted. ==================

Absolutely no reason involved - he Told me he was Dan Cooper 11 days before he died after he removed himself from diaylsis which meant certain death within a period of days...predicted to be 5 but turned out to be 11 days - he therefore had more kidney function than the Dr. thought. ===================== Writers and others are the one who classified it a death bed confession - and I think of a death bed confess as something one says with their last words. I expect I refuse to think of it as a death bed confession - within the limits of what I consider such. ==================== I have NEVER said there was a witness in the room at the time he told me he was Dan Coooper. It was the next day when he was talking about burying an amount of money in a bucket and he couldn't find the bucket. One of his helpers who he considered a friend came to say good-by. She remembered one amount and I remembered another. She asked me what he was talking about and I told her I didn't know. I have never ever changed my story about that. Her name was Anne and she was there on the second day - all she heard was the part about burying a bucket. ======================= Profited? I have never made one cent off of this . It has cost me considerable in not only money. but in time and health. If anyone has profited it has NOT been me? Not one penney was ever taken for any interview. One guy bought me lunch and the one program paid for the trip to WA. =================== Not in the least concerned since I NEVER gave false information to the FBI nor to others. Many writers take liberties - and I have no control over that, just as I have no control over how some of you take my words and twist them to suit your own needs or wants. Writers are often limited by SPACE. To state the confession in its entirety is lenghty and I know U.S. NEWs and World Reports had a space limit. Therefor Death-bed confession came into existence - and because it was given when he was told that death would be within a designated time period. Does that make everyone happy? Most of you will NOT be happy about what is going to happen in the next few months, but at least you can argue among yourselves - my job will be done and I can walk away and never look back...My Job will be Finished! By the way Jerry - a very important interview is being conducted this wk - with someone you claimed made certain comments you know are NOT true. Jerry as my father used to say - "It takes a genius to tell a lie and you are not a genius." Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

REALY, REALLY Bored. You arguing with Amazon about her existence is kind of silly and I got an early chuckle out of that, but the actual finding DB Cooper value of this thread is pretty nil. ============================================== Quade: NO problem - it is going to get better. (the finding Cooper part). The drop I made in WA should stir things up a little...but, waiting for the reactions. There will be several more drops in the next 2 months - but they will be different. Can't believe Jerry would actually accuse Amazon of not being what she is. He obviously has no way to research her on his own or he would NEVER have 3rd degreed her in public. I am not a jumper and I am old, but I can read. Looking forward to meeting a lot of you within the next 3 or 4 months. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

And a thousand cheating skydivers sigh in relief... 377 Now that was funny! Do their wives read DZ? Amazon: I have never seen Jerry prove anything he says here on DZ. Wonder if he has got word of my drop in WA? P.S. That drop is just one of many and they are all different in different ways. Glad he is giving someone else a hard time beside me! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Right, the picture did show what I believe to be chutes - but it did state volunteers for a new program - perhaps the program got ditched - but that one photo was on a site similar to DZ. The photo mentioned either San Quentin or Folsom..I found this the same time I found the program about the Nickels. This was early 2000 just a couple of months after I bought a computer - didn't really know what I was doing - maybe I conjured up some ghosts with my stupidity...? I know I searched key words - Forestry, smoke jumpers, WW11 jumpers, prisons, Folsom, San Quentin, CA, OR. WA, ID, NV. Firefighters - that was my original focus. I know I didn't imagine it and I know that picture exists out there some place - in some file. Lots of things are put on the computer and removed I know this was a site related to the above items. Believe me - I periodically do a search myself - hoping it will POP back up - and since this occurred around the time the FBI lied to me - who knows what happened to the pic (especially if it had any bearing on my speculations at that time). Jo won't be around for a couple of days - and I expect some of you might get wind of what is blowing around in WA right now or at least by Monday. There are a lot of things going on that NO one suspects or has any knowledge of at this time. Maybe when all is said and done WE will be no closer to solving this than anyone else - but since the co-operation of individuals far beyond the scope of this forum and beyond the scope of any Cooper investigation to have been done in the past, we are at least hopeful some truths never known before will be revealed to the public. As scary as this is to me - I have gone where NO one has dared to go before - because I know who Dan Cooper was...and I have absolutely nothing to loose and if there is any gain outside of the truth - I am NOT the one who will benefit. Hopefully the expenses and time of myself and the others will be off set, but the only objective is the TRUTH. This old crime has altered too many lives - because of secrets. It is time to change that.....it is time for the truth...and time for the secrets to be put aside. Face it - when the truth is known, there will be those who refuse to believe - because the legend is so deeply ingrained and "Others" do NOT want the truth to ever be know...and will refute it. How many books are there out there about Kennedy, The Mafia,The Bay of Pigs, the Assassination of two Kennedys - the stories just keep going on and on....the ERA of secrets. 1956 - 1976. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I said there was a picture of 3 guys who volunteered for a program as smoke jumpers for the forestry thru the prison ...the guys obviously had some jump experience in the mililtary. I contacted the prisons, but found no one who had any knowledge of this or the picture or any attempts at this program. ====================

Who is Ridley Scott? Lost me on that one - but then I get lost lots of times lately. Currently running a low grade temperature, coughing and sore throat and just generally wiped out. Stomach is growling - hope I didn't pick up something at the ER Sunday - February 28th. Started coughing March 4 and runny nose - just thought it was allergies - with all of the pollen. Now with the Temperature and the fact that I have been aching since Sat. March 6 a little concerned with the flu going around. Anyone know the incubation period for the flu? Unable to get the vaccine because of my other problems. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have talked to the people at the Smoke Jump Site and what I found out is that those who took training but didn't cut mustard - would not be listed. Lots of guys - especially the CO's applied but didnt make the grade. Therefore. there would be no smokejump designation. These guys checked out or went on to do other things with the forestry. I had been told this before and what I was told again recently was confirmation of that. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Wrong - somethings did fizzle, but other things did jell. The inmate smoke jumpers - I never found again - but, I did not say that either of the 3 men were Duane Weber - but the statement under the picture talked about a program at this prison. One of those POOF moments. Are you placing your bet that Weber never jumped? Not even once?

I never heard of a cloth Brief case, but I did tell Himmelsbach and the FBI about a canvas and leather SATCHEL - but was ignored until recently after I produced a letter I wrote back in 1996. I repeatedly asked the FBI and Himmelsbach about this and was told it was NOT important ---...and now you talk about a cloth brief case? So where did you get the idea of a Cloth Brief Case? Also the FBI only retrieved Duane's DNA in 2003, but papers they accidentally left in the box - showed they DID NOT do any DNA testing until the last few wks of 2007 and the first month of 2008. The agent called me and asked if he had left an envelope in the box - and he need to come get it. Well, he did and I told him I would make a copy of it and send it to him, but I was keeping the original...and I DID just that. He tried to act like it was not important - but to me it was very important and it should sound a bell to others...but it didn't. Duane DID NOT confess on his death bed and I am sick of trying to correct this image. Yes, his kidneys where failing, but he had been in the hospital for about a wk and a half. He told me to bring his brief case to him and he presented to the DR and his nurse and the HOSPITAL Administration papers I did not know existed. Right to die and other papers - he asked the Dr. to note the DATE they were signed. This was in March of 1995 and the documents where dated 1990 Without diaylsis he expired 11 days later...with a little assistance from the staff - if you know what I mean. I did not know these documents existed as I never pryed into his affairs - and did not know the combination to his briefcase. The combination: It was not his birthday - how about that one! Around the 15th of March you will probably hear some rumors in WA and by June you will here MORE and MORE and MORE. As for the WRONG WAY - I will just ignore that one Georger. If you guys think I am wrong about Goldendale, The Dalles, Washougal, Mt. Hood and some other places - then I suggest you put your money where your mouth is. Seems like Tom Kaye and Cousin Brucie had a serious conversation. If Kaye thought the money was buried on the SOUTH SIDE of the Columbia - maybe he needs to check areas within a hour and half of the The DALLEs. Just where did Duane Weber go that morning - leaving around 6:30 and returning sometime after check out which in those days was either 12 noon or 1. I remembered this because I called the clerk about 15 minutes after checkout time telling her my husband had left that morning and he had not returned and I feared he may have had an accident. She told me if he didn't return shortly to call her back and she would notify the Hwy Patrol...but that he had prepaid the room and the maid would not be in that area until after 2 PM and to feel free to stay in the room..,.that I didn't need to put our things outside. Duane showed up within 30 minutes.....and had to clean up before he loaded the car. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jerry: I don't eat at BK - they can't feed me - and don't understand what Burger with on Bun in a Bowl means - I am serious Celiac Spue - and that mean not ONE grain of Wheat or any other gluten. Sorry about the ribs - remember I had 12 breaks in 2000 right before I went public. 377: I suggest that you buckle your seat belt because there is no concoction in what I am doing and no unambiguous facts. The Mickey Mouse "thing" is very real. Sluggo: Yes I suggest you slowly digest what I am saying here - Did I tell the FBI everything I knew and IF I did - did they even listen OR do they not have the orginal transcripts from the witnesses? You read into this what you will? Your maps really helped, but right now I can't reveal exactly how - but, this will be the first thing to become public within the next few wks. Yes, I have a gag on me right now so ALL I can do is throw out the riddles - or hints - hoping one of you grasps the meaning, but unless you were involved in the crime, or current priviledge Agents of the time or one of the witnesses - you will have NO idea what these riddles mean. Weber was in Goldendale, Washougal, The Dalles and Hood River - want to wager that one? If you do be sure you have DEEP pockets. For pocket money he cleaned a store in one of the areas. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Um, OK. Best you listen to the mouse. Duh! You forgot about the Mouseketeers doing their job. You Guys have absolutely NO IDEA what is going on! NOT one iota of a clue! ME, I have to sit here and chew my nails - while others are doing what has to be done. I don't even believe it myself, but it is finally happening. Have fun talking about the paranormal and levitations. I would think that Sluggo would have POPPED in by now, but then MAYBE he also knows what is going on - but, NO ONE can stop it this time. Sure the FBI says - so you put him in a chute - so? You put him in WA - so? Now you have to put him on the plane................... ...... ..... ..........

Paranormals and levitations? Now Jo will make a prediction. "My name is Billy!", "My name is Annette" - a Mouseketeer went for a ride on an airplane, but someone kidnapped him...and kept him hostage for over 38 yrs. Kids gave Daddy's and other relatives small things to take on their flights - or do any of you remember being 5 yrs old and asking someone to take your special toy for a ride on a plane or just to keep that special person company. Yea - that one is a riddle, but since you guys are on to the paranormal - my little riddle should not upset anyone, unless you are the FBI. I strongly suggest the FBI dig into the old original files and find out who lost what and who said what. Guess the FBI lost those files along with the cigarette butts! Wonder what will happen to all of those books (about Cooper) that are being written? I have lost count - how many are there? Gray Cook Blevins and I have heard rumors of others. If they present facts and only facts - without singling out any one suspect - I expect the book will survive. Mickey Mouse just told me to SHUT UP..and let the Mousekeeters do their job. Would any of you invest your own money into any of the books being written? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

to DNA that the FBI has on file for other people? I hear there is a huge DNA database. Perhaps it isnt complete enough to ID a suspect but can be used to rule out a waanabe. 377 The tie DNA was compromised by being handled without gloves and the cross contamination to the tie as even when gloves where worn ( as in the video of CARR)...he touches other things and then also touches the tie with the same gloved hand. Please do note the FBI no longer toots the DNA of the Tie - as they are very aware of the contamination aspect. The FBI also DOES not know if this was Coopers tie...as this was the last leg of a multi stop flight and the TIE was not seen being removed nor could the witnesses say if it was "the" tie or not. Next week - my package arrives in WA - Probably will not get into the right hands, but with time getting so short - I have NOTHING to loose. The other happening is getting better and better...just a little hint below. "My name is Billy", "My name is Annette" Mickey Mouse was a Mouseketeer...he went for a ride on an airplane, but someone kidnapped him...and kept him hostage for over 38 yrs. Kids gave Daddy's and other relatives small things to take on their flights - or do any of you remember being 5 yrs old and asking someone to take your special toy for a ride on a plane. or just to keep that special person company. Yea - that one is a riddle, but since you guys are on to the paranormal - my little riddle should not upset anyone, unless you are the FBI. I strongly suggest the FBI dig into the old original file and find out who lost what and who said what in the inteviews. Guess the FBI lost those files along with the cigarette butts! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

What are you talking about - I am lost, but then that is not difficult for me to do. What is this 1980's version with Art Bell and who is Noory.