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JT is NOT a fact keeper! 377 should go with Bruce or hangdiver. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The artist did an age regression and that was NOT used to make the AVATAR. BLOW IT UP TO FULL PAGE AND LOOK. THE AVATAR IS THE COOPER COMPOSITE AND A PICTURE OF WEBER. TAKE THE 2 PHOTOS I PUT ON THE POST WHERE I ANSWERED YOU - MAKE A COPY OF EACH AND CUT THEM IN HALF - AND YOU HAVE MY AVATAR. Enough of this - Good Night and Fare Thee Well! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I absolutely could NOT help but reply to this post guys! All of you know the Avatar I have is my own creation. I used 1/2 of the composite and 1/2 of a side angle picture of Duane. I got them as close as I could in size - printed them and then cut the pictures in half and connected them. Then I scanned the results - that is my avatar. The Avatar has a more narrow look because the picture I used of Duane was slightly turned. JT, everyone else know this - how come you didn't read back before you made an absolute idiot out of yourself. The guys gave me a fit about the avatar back when I did it. The explanation is already in the thread. The only alteration I did was a tiny connections of the hair line because of the tilt in the photo. DUH! You JUST OUTED YOURSELF JT! Now I am attaching the composite of Cooper and the picture of Duane I used. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I spoke to both of the guys - Cossey and Hayden, but I would not try at this time to remember who told me what. I probably have notes but I wasn't writing a book or a new article. Over the yrs I have heard lots of versions. Sounds like someone scrambled up the Cossey and Hayden info. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Another post just went Poof! Everytime I make a post that is to the point and it is good it goes Poof!. I have told the story many many times. Twice Duane mentioned jumping out of a plane. 1. When I was dressing him to take him to the hospital. I am puttin on his long johns and asked him how he hurt his leg. He says "jumping out of a plane" and I remark "you jump out of a plane" 2. In the hospital several days later when he says "I'm Dan Cooper!" Do you think the conversation ended with that. Perhaps I never spelled it out but I am sure I have many times. Why do you think Duane got so frustrated about my not getting what he was trying to explain, when he shouted out "Oh, Let it die with me." How do you think he was explaining this to me - of course he mentions jumping out of a plane again, but DUMB me did not get it. 3. Himmelsbach, Doug Pasternack, the PI I hired to help me get the information to the FBI and JT (I am sure if he has all of the other stuff he claimes on tape then he has this also). 4. All of this was told to the FBI - perhaps they recorded my phone calls - I don't know. 5. Surely I have told this story before to media or on the computer - it is definitely in my early attempts to tell the FBI and others and my attempts to make tapes in those yrs prior to 2000. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

In 15 minutes of trying don't you Duane could have got his point across to you? Why was it futile? All he'd have to say is I hijacked an airliner, got $200,000 in ransom and parachuted out of the plane Exactly what did he say about jumping out of a plane? 15 minutes of talking is a long time. Give us your best recollection of what was said. 377 I think 15 minutes is overstating it. That was just off the top of my head because I get so fed up with JT. Duane told me he was Dan Cooper. When he realized it was going over my head - he tried to explain what he was talking about. He had also talked about jumping out of a plane when I was getting him dressed to take him to the ER - I was putting on his long johns when I asked him how he had hurt is leg (in the knee area). Now I don't even remember which leg it was - has been a long time. He had been in the hospital for several days (more than a wk) and I can give you an exact number of days because I made notes in my appt book regarding my taking him to the ER and when he started to refuse food, etc. After the Dr., his nurse and the administrator left --- he pursued this conversation about jumping out of a plane again. Remember - I had just been told Duane would die in 5 days, but he lived for 11. My mind was NOT on what he was saying that day in the hospital. He said "I'm Dan Cooooper" and he cooed out the Coooper. I told him that I had known he used the name John Collins, but I had never heard that name. He TRIED to tell me, but I thought it was crazy and just could not digest what he was saying. I expect the entire conversation might have been 5 to 7 minutes. Beyond the plane jumping, I remember none of the conversation. from that point. At that time I was shuting it out and I have never been able to recall what he said. Because I thought what he was saying was odd - I thought maybe he had been given some medication. I knew he had stated he had been refusing medication other than his blood pressure medication and the medication for the running legs...because he stated this in his conversation with the Dr. He had been refusing the medication because of his decision and determination to not let the Dr. prolong his suffering...as it was spelled out in documents I had no idea even existed. I have tried for 15 yrs to remember what Duane told me on that day and I do remember he said more - but, I was refusing to hear it. I do remember my dismissal of what he was telling me. "You, jump out of plane - give me a break". I don't remember what I said just before he got mad and shouted out "Oh, Fuck let it die with me!" I should have been listening - because he had mentioned this same thing as I was dressing to take him to the hospital. I really wish I could remember, but as hard as I have tried - I just draw a blank. Perhaps because it was such a tramatic time in my life. I was more afraid than he seemed to be. He was accepting what was happening to him and the fact that he was going to die. I was like a zombie - I functioned and did what I was supposed to do. I had not been present when my father die and had never been exposed to watching anyone die. I was afraid for him and for myself. Sorry, but I do NOT remember anymore. I have some tapes I made after I contacted the FBI - perhaps I said or remembered more on those tapes, but I don't have anything to play them on anymore. It was a micro-cassett recorder. Sorry, I can't spell it out for you guys any better. Sure, I could make somethings up, but then that would make me quilty of what JT accuses me of being all of the time. I really really have a hard time discussing what happened in the hospital and it was a VERY emotional experience for me. Things he said in the hospital are why I continue to pursue this - such as his conversation about Belgium with the Army Chaplain...I was not privey to any part of that conversation. Yrs later when I found that Chaplain he did NOT remember the man he ministered to in the Hospital when his mother or mother-in-law was dieing down the hall. Duane had refused to see the Hospital Chaplain. I do remember that when I left the Chaplain with Duane in the room that I went into the hall and sank down on the hall floor against the wall crying my heart out because of the things Duane had said before I left the room. Since I did NOT know Duane's past - when he started to talk like he was in a war to the Chaplain - I was just all torn up inside. My thinking was - OH MY GOD he is lieing to this man on his death bed! Sorry - this is very very hard for me and makes me cry my heart out - because I don't understand it and regret I didn't ask him about his life before me. Quilt maybe. Regret for not listening. He was trying to tell me about his life and I was having none of it. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I am not supposed to talk to you and you are NOT suppose to talk to me - it is a futile waste of my time and efforts. My communications with MAX are very private and not entirely about Cooper...they are not for public viewing. Just ask Sluggo if you have not already alienated him as you have me. You seem to want to make everything public and I am a private person. I have NOT stayed in front of the media and stepped away in 2001 - but, I never gave up my battle. This thread and another one are how I chose to continue my search. I did NOT come here to tell the story - I came for information about jumping and the thread was productive. Many folks have made valuable contribution, but NO one wants to read the soap opera that is now going on. Jerry you are not part of the solution. You and others like you are just some of the reasons this case has NOT been solved. The CASE is CLOSED. Duane Weber was Dan Cooper.

I suggest you read Max's book again and do it slowly as you dance with Clara and Max. I have many letters from Max and his last contact was after he got BACK from California. Did Max find Clara? Max died not long after that and per one of your post - it is clear you have NO knowledge that MAX expired and MAX and I spoke many times on the phone. One conversation was almost 2 hrs. Ask Sluggo about the letters MAX sent me. Even he did NOT believe that MAX and I had talked until he actually saw the letters. As for MAX using the Bing Crosby composite, did they have access to the Ben Gazzara Composite? Probably NOT! This is the point you seem to be missing. I never said that MAX used the Gazzara composite... Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Yes, Jerry. Clara had told Max that she thought her "Cooper" looked like Ben Gazzara. Yes, this is why I call the third composite the Ben Gazzara Composite. I gave the composite the name. Yes, I took that from the book....but, only after many conversation occurred between myself and the ex-wife at later dates. She (Duane's exwife) referred to Duane as looking like Ben Gazzara. Is that not ODD? THINK! What picture did Max use? Find that one and is there any reference to the Bing Crosby look-alike? Does he have the 3rd Composite - what I call the Ben Gazzara in his book? I did NOT see the Ben Gazzara Composite until a couple of years later. One of those "Told you so moments". The first time I saw it was when it was only a postage stamp size digitized picture in a newspaper. This is when I asked the FBI for the Composites. I still have the envelope they mailed them to me in. I still remember the day they arrived in the mail. I fell to the ground in my front yard as I had opened the envelope crossing the street. All I could do was hold up the pictures trembling - and rambling to my daughter "Look LOOK LOOK!" In that moment I knew Duane really was Cooper. She looked at the photos I handed to her and stated..."He really was Cooper" because to her it was like looking at a picture of what she thought Duane would have looked like when he was younger. She happened to have been visiting me on the day the pictures arrived. You see until that moment I had never seen a colored picture of the Ben Gazzara Composite. Jerry, I can make mistakes, but this is NOT one of them! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Only addressing this because the friend is upset and he intends to do something about it. JT has called me a liar, but he did know JT was callin him a liar. He was upset when he read the email I sent him. The friend and I have communicated over the yrs and he is upset about JT's claims and rightfully so. JT's deflamation of the friend was hard to leave be. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jerry, I never claimed a nurse was present when Duane made his confession. Since I do not know what Comment you are referencing I have to assume it was when Duane said "I'm Dan Cooper!" Let me refresh your memory. This story has been told many times and it has NEVER changed. After the nurse, the hospital administrator and the Dr. left when Duane told them he did NOT want to continue diaylsis, he asked me if anyone was in the room...because he could not see the door. I told him "No" and thought he wanted to smoke and he waved his hand "NO". (He was allowed to smoke if I held the cigarette - he had broke his left hand & fingers in a fall before going to the hospital. He told me he had something to talk to me about. I sat down beside his bed and he said "I am Dan Cooper". I didn't know who Dan Cooper (note he did NOT say D.B. Cooper) was and he tried to tell me about jumping out of a plane - he tried for about 15 minutes and realized it was futile and said "OH, Fxxx, Let it die with me!" I had just been told by the Dr. that my husband would be dead in 5 days, but he would live for 11 days...I was still digesting the words the Dr. had said. I didn't understand the story he was rambling on about...I still remember little of what he said. It was not until he shouted out very very loud "Oh Fxxx, Let it die with me!." that the nurse came in - because they thought he might be upset about his decision. This is when they started the medications, because for 2 days Duane had refused any medication that would make his presentation to the Dr invalid. He had been instructed in regards to this when he did his living will in 1990. Whew! last time I am going to repeat that story. As for a Polygraph test - I offered to do one for the FBI yrs ago. I seriously doubt the FBI is interested in a test 15 yrs later. The FBI has to make the request - and it has to be a formal request from the FBI in writing and in their office. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Melvin looks similar to Ben Gazzara.

I believe that came from Florence during an interview with Geoffrey. It had to be someone who interviewed the stewardesses and Geoffrey interviewed Hancock and Florence. Not sure if Cook has ever interviewed them. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Only addressing this because the friend is upset and he intends to do something abuot it. JT has called me a liar but he did know JT was callin him a liar. He was real made when he read that. The friend andI haved some dosihave hour commumintations ovef the yrs p- so he has hs post. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Would Cooper have walked down the stairs or would he have backed himself down the stair? I ask this only because when Duane had his dream (1978) about leaving his prints on the Aft Stairs - he was reached up with his hand as though he was trying to grasp something when he cried out - "I left my prints on the Aft Stair" "I 'mmmm Going to Die" then it is Blood curdling scream I felt sure could have been heard in the next apartment if we had not had a corner apartment. His hand extending upward makes me think maybe he went down the stairway facing the steps. I say this only because of the extend hand in the nightmare. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Tomorrow I wil talk about something I do not believe I have revealed to the thread. Part of the story I never told in its entirety. This involves an Antique Store and a woman in St. Helens, OR. I was unable to put it together until I went back to WA by myself with myself behind the wheel of a car. Now one yr later more of the pieces come together - with recently acquired information. I hope to be able to confirm this information before I post. I touched on this after I got back from WA - at least I think I did, but I am not going back thur the posts to find out. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Great we have Snow channeling thru 377. Keep it up and maybe Quade will let him back on a trial basis. I think part of why he is gone was the trails of computer searchs that were posted. A lot of it meant things to me that NO one else would latch on to...some of it I replied to but NOT all. I still do NOT think Snow introducing Snow Line was just a quirk. Because I had viewed that site before because it was the same guys & truck in the book that Duane told me he used to know and stated a picture of him was in the book but someone had tore it out. Even then I thought one of these guys looked like a very young Weber and the article gave 2 names for the guy - neither of which has ever checked out.

Boeing 727 CRASHES: * 08/16/65 Chicago * 11/08/65 Kentucky * 11/11/65 Salt Lake * 07.19/67 Henderson N.C. * 01/18/67 Los Angles CA * 09/21/67 Mexico At one time I had the names of all of the passengers on these flights and lots of information. I was looking of names - and didn't know what names I was seeking. I want to revisit those names now that so much more has transpired throught the information channels. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I am reposting the post below where I responded to Vickie. Can someone out there help us find the COMPLETE passenger list. I had it at one time - maybe it is still available. One of you guys really good with search please help. Seemed like it was found before under Plane Crashes but I can't find it. Do not know how many yrs ago I acquired the original information. Vickie, Question since your father disappeared in 1971 - do you know if he had a broken arm and burns. Seems like this is something you would know, but I don't remember the history on your father and your siblings and the other set of siblings. Please refresh the backgound on Melvin Wilson for all of us. Date and known activities and location until 1971 - at least what little you know. A simple outline like that might help others to fill in the blanks. What got my attention was the Salt Lake and 727. I had found some information on this yrs. ago looking for the name of woman - who I thought would been the mother of Duane's daughter. Since I never knew her last name - that search was for ought. I had the complete passenger list on that flight at one time. I forgot who helped me find that information and hope I still have it - as it might not be available anymore. I do not even know where to look in all of these massive files I have acquired. I remember I was looking for motive - because of something Duane said I could never quiet put my finger on...but, it was in reference to someone dieing in a plane crash - a woman. Salt Lake was mentioned. Your bringing this to surface again because of Melvin Wilson is shear coincidience, but it make me want to revisit that list. Maybe, because NOW I know more about Weber's past than I did at the time the research was acquired for me. Maybe now a name would POP. Melvin Wilson sure POPPED - right? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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I refuse to be BAITED into making any disclosures until MY GUYS say go. We are going to proceed without the FBI and the story I told about the CADDY previously - well, there is MORE. Things just keep falling into place - and keeping my fingers off the keybroad and my mouth shut are very very difficult. Changing subject: I keep revisiting something Duane told me that I didn't understand in 1979 in WA and that to this day I do NOT understand. This is about the cemetery and someone buried there. I need to go back to WA, but I am not able to do so at this time. Since I have mentioned several cemeteries I am not going to reference which one is creating a puzzle of sorts. I keep wanting to connect this cemetery - to a second party. I think perhaps ground sonar might be necessary to find out if there are 2 bodies buried in the same grave. It is NOT something I want to chase at this time. I know I talk in circles, but there are secrets I have kept all of these yrs - because I don't understand or even grasp the meaning of these things. Again maybe just JO connecting dots that do not connect. JT made this comment below: "Jo. What are you saying. What I posted had nothing to do with a registration from the 60s it was from 1971. and nothing to do with you." He did NOT grasp that I have done this before - chase an old car tag number. I was offering to help them chase the number and it is pretty easy if you have the tag number, state and yrs. We chased one from the 1960's and all we had was the number and the state. We found out what kind of road vehicle it was on, but they would NOT reveal the name of the person. If they have the make and model of car and names of a possible owner at that time - you are on set go. You just have to hold your mouth right and say the right things. You get the VIN number this way and then you can chase it....right down to the salvage yard. May not work this way in every state or with every vehicle - but it is do-able. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Alright Bruce you got my attention. What do you know about Kamil Ross? Remember this is a common name so don't go bananas about me connecting dots that do not connect. I would like to know more about this Kamil Ross and the children of this Ross. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

If you were ALL you claim you would know how to do that. We traced an old camper from the 60's - an old tag that was not supposed to be in the possession of a certain person. Guess you have no knowledge of that...you didn't know anyone who knew Duane from the 60's. I did NOT start this thread and I do NOT try to get anyone removed. They do that themselves. I do NOT ask anyone to write about me - remember I disappeared from the media in 2001. This has basically been my only exposure in several yrs. I did NOT ask Grey to write about Weber. There was another book I had no knowledge of until it was published. Why is it so important for you to know the name I live under? I do so for protection from individuals like you and because MY STORY is TRUE and MY LIFE was threatened. I am also a very private person. Unlike yourself I do not seek the notoriety of pubilicity. Example - I was in WA for 15 day and only contacted the FBI the day I flew home. How am I destroying Duane's name? I did NOT make him an ex-con nor did I make him confess to being Dan Cooper. I also loved Duane Weber very much and I am proud of what he did to change his life (only after learning about his past). His past was a mystery to me, but what he did with his life later is to be is to be commended. He made something out of his life, but he had to guard himself from being found out in the insurance industry. I am not the reason anyone comes to this thread. They come to learn about Cooper - not Weber. He is a suspect and if you were truely on the inside you would know that there are things happening. Bottom line - the consistency of my story for 15 yrs is WHY some individuals remain interested in Weber - NOT me. I have addressed your post in a very nice and informative way. Please in the future leave me alone. There is NO need for your repetitive posts bashing me at every turn. The only person you are making look bad is yourself. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I know the money was planted and I know that with all of my heart and soul. It was put there in 1979. None of this can erase what I witnessed myself. I feel like I need to stop coming here because it is too hard on me. I can have a good day and come to the forum and end up in tears or worst like tonight with chest pains. I will not erase my memories - cannot erase my memories and yet the memories only cause me grief and tears and stress. If the FBI would just help us with 2 things - this could all be over. The Cooper thing on DorkZone - could I get a dvd with it so I can play it at a slower rate. I really need this - there are things on that clip I don't remember ever making public. I don't care - I just want to see it in slow motion. My eyes do not let me register this because it is so fast. Quade has gotten rid of others, but JT gets away with horrible posts that do nothing but ATTACK me at every turn. He won't let up and yet, I have proven him to be quilty of all that he accuses me of being. Why can't JT be reprimanded about making his repetitive posts that are blatant ATTACKS on no one but me. I am trying to hang in here until My JOB is finished, but I don't think I can make it. The FBI is the only thing holding us up. Got to go - I had a good day and now I am crying my heart out. Can't see the screen. Make him STOP - Please make him STOP. No one says a word to him, but anyone else doing that would get a reprimand or a vacation. This is what the world has come to - Only the BAD survive and Evil prevails. Between what is going on politicially and financially in this world - to come here and be berated with almost every post that JT make is just too much and I don't understand why Quade allows it to go on. Even when I don't respond to him - he attacks me. 377, please help me get a download of that magazine article Snow made available. I couldn't down load it. You know my regular contact information if I don't come back. The guys told me to just hang on a few more weeks, but JT is making that impossible. I do NOT understand HOW Quade or anyone else can stand by and allow the attacks JT makes on me - that is the meanest cruelest and the most dispicable man I have never NOT met and do NOT want to. Anyone interested in Calling Donna Elliot - the Ariel Tavern is listed. Maybe she is playing a game, but I don't think so. She seems very nice and honest to me. By the way - I didn't call her JUST to talk about what JT was claiming. I had other things to discuss with her...we have mutual friends. I guess JT is getting un-nerved because he KNOWs more than one person is contacting the FBI regarding Duane and things that have been found by my guys and others. We have really been doing a lot of background checking. I write and post and then get my breath and come back to make an edit after I compose myself a little. Good Night - not saying Good Bye, but if it was NOT so very very important that I hold on for a few more weeks - I would be GONE. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber