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I appreciate that post. The odds against it happening so completely in one small speck of dust in the universe are astronomical[pun intended]. Everything from the smallest form of life to the random thoughts or the ability to reason in the mind of man, and everything being interdependent upon each other for survival is truly phenomenal. You say for it all happen, all conditions had to be perfect. I can't argue with that. It's just that I would have a better chance of crushing a clay pot with a sledgehammer, throwing it into the air, and have fall to the ground in its original shape, than life forming itself into a functioning entity in a narrow window of tolerance.
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Get over it. I'm the kid who sat in the back of the class and punched the teacher's buttons. I understood everything that was being said, I just didn't swallow it all, hook, line and sinker.
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> Who says that there couldn't have been any number of these monstrous explosions? My point is that much of what we assume about the universe, even with the help of satellites, is assumption based on current knowledge. To say, on the one hand, that one is arrogant to believe the Earth is the only planet in the universe that contains life, but then give a shoulder shrug as to whether the universe is finite or infinite is hypocritical. By the logic presented here, if you can't see, touch, or smell it, it doesn't exist, then we currently have no choice but to believe that we are the only planet that possesses life. Anything else is based on faith. If Captain Kirk can do it, then so can Moses.
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You can be sure that there is no fence to keep the aliens out.
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>Does the universe go on forever or is there a finite border? That is, assuming the the universe, as we know it, began at a single point in the heavens;i.e. the big bang. Who says that there couldn't have been any number of these monstrous explosions? We have yet to see to the edge of the universe, so you are assuming this by faith.
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And they can fill all of those back orders for forty acres and a mule.
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I cook with dried habeneros for a reason. If there is no heat, it's not fit to eat!
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We have defined life by the confines of our little planet, and for it to continue all conditions must remain as they currently exist. Once again, we are freaking over a small swing in temperature. Think about the odds of all conditions being perfect for life, as we define it, to exist in any other solar system. This star is too big, that one is too small, the planet's orbit isn't perfect, there's deadly gas on the surface or there's a 50,000 mile wide hurricane with 400mph winds blowing around. Either we limit ourselves to the definition of life as we know it or we accept the possibility of other forms which are beyond our current comprehension. Something more ethereal, shall we say?
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Just giving you occasion to revel in your intellectual superiority.
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That might be the answer that you give in the classroom to please your professor, but if that's where it stops, that's the sign of a truly simple mind.
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Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In all of the planets of all of the solar systems of all of the galaxies, our little chunk of rock and water is the only one that we can prove has what it takes to do the job. Coincidence? I think not. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Life,as we define it needs water to survive. Either evolution dictates it own parameters or all conditions have to be in place to start with. You can't have it both ways. Remove one element from the equation and it all goes down the tube. Maybe, deep down, all of these global warming scientist/ athiests know that they are at the mercy of powers that they have no control over. Que sera sera.
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Thanks for the heads up.
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By the "pure logic" of the evolutionist, life should be able to create itself and adapt to the heat of Venus or Mercury, the barren landscape of Mars or the violence of the surface of Jupiter. It has had the billions of years to get the job done, yet it has not happened. Life as we know it could not exist on Earth if our orbit was 10,000 miles closer or farther away from the sun. As it is we are wringing our hands over a couple of degrees in temperature change. All conditions had to be absolutely perfect for life to exist on this planet. In all of the planets of all of the solar systems of all of the galaxies, our little chunk of rock and water is the only one that we can prove has what it takes to do the job. Coincidence? I think not.
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The logic of the evolutionist says that life developed itself. Once it started, it simply adapted to the conditions around it and began to improve itself until it is what it is today. Haven't all of the other planets in our solar system been here as long as Earth? By your logic, life should be able to start itself on any or every planet regardless of what we humans consider to be unsurvivable conditions. Don't you find it strange that Earth has such complex, integrated life systems, each one depending, in some degree, upon the other, yet all of the other planets have nothing but atmospheric storms occurring on their surfaces?
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Does the universe go on forever or is there a finite border? Why do you believe what you do and can you prove it? What does your gut tell you? Whatever you believe about it is totally done by faith.
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Jump on it. What name are you going to give to your version of the Red Cross or the Salvation Army?
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Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Only those who spend their lives practicing low level agronomy, and leave a miniscule footprint when they leave this life, can say that they have clean hands concerning the stewardship of the earth. Are you there? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm with you completely. It is amazing how small of a garden it takes to provide the majority of one's vegetables.
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More Proof GWing Alarmists are Running Out of Time
Royd replied to rushmc's topic in Speakers Corner
>There's no debate on the net impact of man-made pollution on global temperatures? So why should anyone give Al Gore an iota of credibility? -
I was going to take up kayak fishing before I discovered skydiving. May still do it, someday. Time and money! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, I'm a gear whore, so outfitting a kayak with a fishfinder, gps, saftey equipment, and fishing tackle will run a couple thousand. I was looking at Ocean Kayak, which ran about a thousand. I live near Jacksonville and love the backwaters and tidal creeks of the St. John's River. I would still like to get offshore and get taken for a Nantucket sleigh ride. You know, the adrenaline thing. Conquer the unknown. Then I could use my GPS to get back.
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You said that we should worship the sun and the earth. That would make you a religionist of some sort, which an athiest surely cannot abide. As for respecting the sun, wear a hat and sunscreen; you are at its mercy. Only those who spend their lives practicing low level agronomy, and leave a miniscule footprint when they leave this life, can say that they have clean hands concerning the stewardship of the earth. Are you there?
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I was going to take up kayak fishing before I discovered skydiving. May still do it, someday. Time and money!
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I believe that is called paganism, which is also a religion. Why would you worship something with no intelligence? Shouldn't you be worshipping your father and mother? They are the ones who gave you life. Isn't there a rule about that somewhere? Honor thy father and thy mother. Where did that come from?
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BOOBIES! "Enough is Enough" for Kosovo Independence, Says GWB (Ass'd Press)
Royd replied to a topic in Speakers Corner
Maybe having too much of a good thing is too much for some people. I just watched the report on ABC news. Talk about reporting good news through gritted teeth. -
Please explain the common sense of mans' inevitable self destruction which has been prophesied in the book of The Revelation. Since we have come from nothing and should,by logic, be moving toward a better existance, why are we so intent on the destruction of those who don't agree with us?
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Have you been taking lessons from Amazon?