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Uh . . . I was quoting YOU. You said, "multiracial" when talking about the similarities between the Obama supporters and the Third Reich. YOU, not me. You are clearly the one in significant need of education if you think somehow that applies to both. Nonsense again! I didn't claim not to mention 'multiracialism' as that's now what you seem to be clinging onto. This was never the main point behind the post. My main point doesn't revolve around 'multiracialism.' So, to reiterate; it isn't the main point, and if it were, you'd be wrong. So who's in need of education then?

Nonsense - first of all the main point has nothing to do with 'multiracialism' and secondly; you'd be perhaps better off looking at the culture and society surrounding the early Nazi movements. Ok? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Nobody ever seems to welcome it do they? That sometimes puzzles me. If it's for the better, why argue the opposite until hell freezes over? Sometimes I wish I had a 'change' stick I could set about people with at work. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Well, did I say I was surprised? Nein. Hahaha 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Obama worship has echoes of the Third Reich: 'This Barack Obama frenzy is getting out of hand. A Left-wing friend has emailed me a YouTube Obama propaganda video that reminds him - in technique - of Leni Riefenstahl's Hitler-worshipping film Triumph Of The Will. I see what he means. To an insistent beat, impossibly beautiful, multiracial young men and women endlessly repeat the slogan "Yes, we can", in a disturbingly mindless way. The thing contains no thought, no argument - just Obama worship. Compared with this cult-like stuff, Hillary Clinton's clumping old-fashioned Leftism is almost reassuring.' Blimey - so said by a British journalist. Essentially, if you've the finance, it wouldn't exactly be difficult to groom a particular candidate of your choice to become the President. It obviously worked for Georgie. Now that's a bit spooky. Both Obama being compared to Hitler and the fact pretty much any monkey can become the Boss! I think our Western beliefs of democracy are fast becoming outdated. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Sorry - I was being sarcastic.

Well, something must have gone wrong somewhere. William Graham Sumner was a member of the Skull & Bones whilst at Yale...... 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

That is exactly the reason I've no real interest in organised religion. The 'church' isn't there for the congregation, more like the congregation being there for the 'church'. At least. Looking at the uncountable slaughters directly through organised religion....? No thanks. I have, however, went along for various services at many differing religious denominations. Naturally some had a better spiritual feel to them than others, but it made me think; if there is a Jesus as depicted by ancient man does it matter what church you go to? Probably not. If you lead a relatively faultless life, and are a bit of a saint in fact, will you not get into heaven because you didn't go to church? Who really knows? Enough people think they know, and that's the problem.

That's a fair point. The west, especially the US, is very results-centric, with little patience for anything. Indeed, however, I was trying to speak in broad terms. The African continent seems unique in the sense that these nations are almost too big. How would the continent look today if colonization hadn't occurred? Even with the relative stability of colonization, which in its wake, barely 30-40 years ago, have these societies advanced as a whole? Arguments can be made on all sides, and how much the world pays attention is another story. Being Europe's neighbor, Africa has a greater impact than in the west. Well, I've puzzled over the idea of how Africa might be today without colonization and can't really imagine. It is remarkable how many ex-colonized countries throughout the world are hotbeds of tension and conflict. Our imperial past coming back to bite us on the ass? It's also remarkable how America, with Britain hanging on, is trying to achieve similiar international imperialism today! I feel many countries in Africa have to evolve for themselves, and perhaps not blame us too much for causing them so many problems in the first place. Simple as that. A bit similiar to Islam and Muslims. Bit of evolution required. How the West conducts itself is the crux to the problems. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Same day dispatch to the world; with the metal made to your exact specifications - with competetive pricing! Where did my hat come from? No pleasing people is there!? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

http://www.advent-rm.com/materials/tin.htm 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Can't you use card or plasticine or something? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

I knew a vegan once - she was a friend of the Mrs. When she visited I'd grill some NZ lamb or make a fry up - she squirmed like a worm on a hook! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

I've often wondered why mine didn't seem to work.... 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Impossible! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

I'm with the Vandal on this one - besides, imagine: no more Vension. No more KFC. Whoppers! Roast Lamb. Square sausages. Simple and well cooked rabbit. The list of delicious food is endless! At the risk of sounding dramatic, I'd rather be dead than be a veggie.

What was your name before Skippyjumps? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

From your post I think an important area lies with expectation. The problems with Africa are too complex and diverse to significantly catalogue here. But an area perhaps worth considering is our expectation of a solution working now. We tend to expect results now. When it comes to a nations society significantly changing we're normally talking at least decades. And a continents? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

I also don't have that much of an opinion myself, although I do sympathise with the fact we're all imagining him on the range. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

He's obviously try to settle things down a bit from the Bishop of Rochester's earlier comments. But appeasement isn't a sensible solution. Targets will fall when hit. In your own time; carry on! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Of course it's for real; the author couldn't make all that up.

Hope not - that''s disgusting! Could it relate to crimping a det' with ones teeth though?

Well, I can tell you that TBI is becoming a popular topic - regarding USMC - no idea. But going back to TBi - what about improvised Claymores I've detonated for example? I've literally been sat on top of them. What about the infantry men posting grenades? Does it apply to them - of course it must - which makes it either a load of bollox or a massive payout 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Commentator: 'And here we can observe the Greater Vortexring, swimming around, minding his own business - avoiding the evil religious lure set by the cruel Amazon....blah - blah -blah.