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I have used driftwood I have found on the arkansas River, bark, and pine knots that I have purchased on Ebay. steveOrino

Well steveorino as I stated he obviously didn't have a "new body" if it was full of holes and lance wounds. But that is what you stated with your masters degree. Of course he sweated ,farted, pooped and was hungry. The guy was still alive and getting over the torture of crucifiction. No he didn't die on the cross . Yes he went silent afterwards as Rosicrucians are known to do and died some 40 years later close to Shri Lanka. At least that is what my research indicates. I don't know how much you value your Masters of Theology degree. Me , not so much. Peace, Jim B Truthfully, the 'swoon' theory is by far the weakest of all counter theories. How did he get out of the tomb?Over power Roman guards. I didn't say I had a Masters in theology to impress you or state it's value. I said it because my study was built on the teachings and research of men far greater than any one person. Plus, your personal insults don't impress, nor sway me. Live and let live ... Can I ask you a question? why would a whuffo such as yourself want to post on a skydiver's forum? steveOrino

Not sure why you seek to complicate it. He had a human body. He sweated, farted, pooped, etc. His new body was different. I truthfully have no clue (to all its limitations, to what it should look like, etc) I hardly see how any this matters??? As far as asking "new body" questions .... didn't seem important then, still doesn't seem that important to me now. Why is it a stumbling block to you? I have bigger questions from his teachings that I find difficult, such as the turning the other cheek thing. THAT goes against my old nature, and I'm not sure if I will ever be able to do that in many given circumstances. For me the hard stuff isn't semantics, nor difficult to understand passages. It is often his clear teachings that I struggle with. Not in understanding them, but in desiring to do them. I'm a fairly narcissistic guy. steveOrino

It says they pierced his side. Water & blood "flowed" out. If he was dead, as the expert Roman executioners thought, than it would seem the blood & water would come from a pierced pericardial sac. JC was said to have a new body, not that he was a "spirit" . that was the purpose of eating and allowing Thomas to touch his wound. steveOrino

I have a Masters in Theology (as well as a MA in counseling) It was compiled in 300 AD, but most likely written between 60-90 AD steveOrino

I take them from Bible steveOrino

They broke the legs so the criminals would die. they didn't break JC's because he was already dead. they pierced his heart. he was also brutally beaten before he was crucified. Not the 39 lashes of the Jews but as much as they wanted to of the Romans. But to the original question, would it matter to me if JC didn't die. Theologically (for propitiation), yes; but to me personally, no. his life and words are enough that I would follow him. steveOrino

Latest ... REX steveOrino

Skydive Airtight is putting on " The Goode Boogie " July 22nd through July 24th. We will have a Cessna 208 Caravan from Skydive San Marcos here at Skydive Airtight (Skiatook, OK -- 15 miles north of Tulsa) to jump. $30 entry fee if you pre register. $40 at the door. Proceeds go to the Terry Goode fund for his kidney transplant. Come out and enjoy the turbine while helping out a fellow skydiving legend. 918-396-PULL www.skydiveairtight.com steveOrino

new one entitled: WORRY steveOrino

I watched the video many times. there was NO attempt to flare! WTH? steveOrino

My wife taped a show (Oprah, I think) that had Shania Twain doing a tandem with a lady friend. Shania's tandem was uneventful, but it clearly showed her friend landing and the TM DID NOT flare!. They hit hard!! The TM's feet were up for slide in so her butt hit first (with NO flare) How she did not break her pelvis I do not know. I THINK the jump was in Canada. Why would a TM not flare??????? steveOrino

A few more steveOrino

Who cares? (besides those who try to make an issue out of anything and everything?) I want to know how "Geronimo" became associated with skydiving?????? steveOrino

I guess 150-250 years the French had an army. Belated thanks! When I was in SF I worked with the Legion, funny thing they were all foreigners! :P steveOrino

I've done my (active) military service - what the heck do *you* know about war?? The French have a military??? Could have fooled me! steveOrino

.... official told reporters that Obama's administration did not share intelligence gathered beforehand with any other country -- including Pakistan -- for security reasons. The official said that only a small group of people inside the U.S government knew about this operation in advance.... We finally learned something. DON'T tell others what you are about to do! steveOrino

Crazy winds today 50+ mph.. Hopefully tomorrow is better. steveOrino

How long does it take you to carve one of those? 2-3 hours steveOrino

2000 foot ceiling today. Check out this guy! steveOrino

A few more I did this week ... BTW, I sold FRANK to a guy for $100! steveOrino

Chisels and dremels ... and sand paper, and nail files, and steel wool steveOrino

Here are a few others steveOrino

I have about 12 things ready for a local Tulsa Art show.Of course, I only like about 3-4 of them. (like this one) If you have ever worked with wood ... you know this guy (SPLINTER) steveOrino

When it is too windy to jump, I carve. What do you think? Would they sell? steveOrino