Jumpdude

Further explain this part of your statement. I understood the first part and your support and praise for Jan as I share the same feelings, but the last aprt that I quoted here, somehow is a bit confusing. I did not understand if you meant for myself and Jan to explain or the other two users and Jan. Absolutely no offense meant by my saying that. Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

Nope, tell the world. I wish I didn't have to work today, I could have saved it to an HTML file for future use. But, however, I am on Jan's team, so I would never do or say anything to discredit her in any way. Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

Well damn, Jan had to delete her post! Damn gag order! Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

Jan, I know you can't call the GA people, but I can and have. As I said before, I have spoke with them on a few occasions now, and a couple of things that I've already brought to their attention is the, what I call "Domain Laundering". I'm referring to the shifting of the domains to show ownership in Tennessee and Alabama. I have not checked for the other states, but I don't mind doing so. Just if someone would either pm me or post the states and domains here, I'll be glad to check them out. Or anyone can do a whois on any domain. I have also let the Asst. AG Barrett know about the locations still not being on the websites. I don't know how far we will have to carry things to get the sLyride scam stopped, but let's keep it going! Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

First thing, I don't need a recurrency jump, I get around quite frequently. I just jumped 2 weeks ago. That's not important to this conversation. The only thing wrong with my website is that it's not as pretty as sLyride's 1,000's of sites. If you count mile for mile from the county line to your place verses ours, They are pretty much the same distance. My website does not say anything about our aircraft nor the condition of, so there's no deception there. My website DOES CLEARLY STATE our physical location. Does your's? NO! >>>VIOLATION OF TENNESSEE STATE LAW! Does your signs state your location, or at least give an idea of what State the jumping will be in? NO! Did Chuck follow up with a "Just kidding" or something to rectify the deceptive lie that he told? NO! Is the person that answers the calls from the customer in the local Nashville area? NO! >>>VIOLATION OF TENNESSEE STATE LAW! After I responded to his comment that it was us, did he come back with a correction? NO! Has he yet to jump in here and try to offer any kind of acceptable explaination as to why he did that? NO! After I called him out, did he jump in and defend himself and/or the company? NO! As I said earlier in this thread, being that he is the manager (Or whatever his title is) of a sLyride operation, that makes him a representative of that company, and he got in this thread and LIED in front of the whole world and showed that the sLyride scam is still going. Furthermore, when I said more than once in this thread and others on DZ.com, If it were Mullins, or any other operation OR had sLyride not been the deceptive crooks, ie Chuck's LIE!, I would probably almost definitely be over there everytime the plane flies. Myself nor Matt are opposed to a DZ being there. I think it can be great for the sport in this area, but because of the past and current ongoing deception, ie, CHUCK'S LIE! I don't have any plans to stop putting your (sLyride's) shit in the street! The question I have for you is, Being that you (sLyride) have a DZ in Tennessee now, Why don't you go ahead and post your location on the websites? All we ask is for your company to stop running the deception, ie CHUCK"S LIE! and tell people via ON YOUR WEBSITES straight up where you're at so they can make an educated decision on where they want to jump. Besides all this, using someone's plane crash to defer the attention away from the real issue is not going to work. I have never questioned your company's safety record with your planes, or your jumpers. I'm not the person that knows anything about that. And, you will not see anything about that subject on my Consumer Alert either. In closing I will say this; There's so much business here, that You guys, us, Cullman, Etown and Mullins should have no problem co-existing. That's all I wanted to say, I'm off for the night. Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

I thought the same thing, but it appears that he meant well and he's on our side! That's always a good thing! Ya think? Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

Come on Chuck, get in here and answer the questions! You have still not answered why you tried to decieve that lady by telling her that it was Russellville instead of you that's doing the signs! Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

Something I don't understand, or maybe I do, Why is it that sLyride owns/operates the the dz over at Clarksville, (even as bad as I hate the fact that they are there), their manager must still try to scam someone into buying a certificate? Is he so ashamed of the fact that he works for sLyride that he would try to make someone think that it was someone that's not involved. I myself am proud to promote my DZ, yeah, a lot of up jumpers don't like my DZO, but that's only because he's a strong businessman. The only reason he don't care about upjumpers is because they, for the most part only want to jump and don't care about helping with the business by flying camera for Tandems, or getting an instructor's rating of some kind. So why is Chuck ashamed to step up and tell someone that his company is advertising. I'll answer my own question,,, BECAUSE THE ARE A SCAM!!!!! Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

The only thing I can see that you said there that is correct is the part about no one gives a shit if it's someone else unless sLyride is involved. That is a true statement! We all know that if a person out riding around, sees one of those signs, and makes that call, the chances are about 99.9% that the person will get ripped off. Where's the "Small issue" in that? You can't reason with unreasonable people, and any sLyride supporter is an unreasonable person! Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

I think he needs something to help him focus! That was a bunch of jibberish. I don't think I understood any of that? I could not find any intelligence in that statement at all! Maybe that's all part of the sLyride deception! Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

Just like I said in my earlier reply in this thread, I will be personally calling Asst. Attorney General Sidney Barrett first thing Monday Morning. I may email him the pictures first, then call him shortly after, just as reassurance. I will also add a screenshot of Chuck's lie to the evidence that I will be sending. I am fairly certain that AG Barrett will find that info quite interesting to say the least...

Well, Well, Well, I guess I will just have to go and see if I can break your record! You don't mind do you? Realisticly, Do you have any idea how many signs they usually put out? Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

That phrase....sounds curiously familiar....hmmm... Not so much directed at that website or the user. It was meant to make a point that we need to pull together more instead of a bunch of people with the same agenda not working together. There is strenght in numbers and we have the numbers, but numbers don't work so well as 10 or 100, they work much more effective as "1". The Army commercial don't say, "an Army or 1,000" it says "Army of one", So I think that's a good way of getting stuff done. Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

The first reply in this thread clearly shows how 1 800 Skyride works. The Person who started this thread simply asked a question about who it was that has the signs out, and the person by the user name of "howtosee" who is Chuck Owen, He is the Manager of the sLyride DZ over at Clarksville, TN. So, that being said, he is a representative of 1 800 sLyride, or they may even try to call themselves "Adventure Skydiving", But it's all the same company. You will notice that in his response, he Lied to that lady who lives in Bowling Green and told her that it was the DZ in Russellville that was doing the signs. He was hoping that she would make that call and buy a gift certificate. Then the person who receives the certificate would call to try to schedule a jump, and then they are informed that they will probably have to go to Cedartown, Ga., But if that customer pushes the issue, sLyride might send them to Clarksville. slyride's main source of income is gift certificates that don't get redeemed, so they make it very undesirable for the customer to persue getting their services. Being that he did try to commit the sLyride fraud right here in front of God and everybody AND By doing so, he violated the Georgia Supreme Court court order, and the Tennessee State Law as well, this brings back to the forefront that the sLyride Scam is very much alive and well! This is a solid example of how the sLyride Scam works and it does not seem to matter to them what laws they break and no amount of litigation, Court Orders, Fines, restitution and/or bad press has been able to stop them. It will take all of os who are in the fight to stop sLyride to pull together as one to be able to stop them. Let's make it happen! For more information, go to www.1800skyrideripoff.com Making sLyride squirm, one day at a time! Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

You're right, they are everywhere! I went downtown and took about 60 pictures of over 40 signs in the Music Row area alone. I'm sure there are more! Just like their websites, when you think you've found them all, look again, there hundreds more than meets the eye. I am fairly sure the AG's will be delighted that sLyride is still violating state, and local laws as well as the Court order. Not to mention littering laws. Chuck and Cary better hide their wallets because the next wave of restitution is on the way! Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

Just wanted to add, to Chuck's reply, now that I know who you are with a little research, I see that you are still using your deceptive lies that you and your sLyride constituents have always used to decieve the customer in to believeing that they will recieve a skydive in places that they are not. You damn well knew when you made that reply who it was, so don't set there and try to fucking lie like sLyride does and say that it was anyone else other than yourself. But that's ok, You can do that, because I have a stack of business cards from the Attorney Generals in Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama, and Georgia, so If you wish to keep scamming the customer and perpertrating your fraud, I will keep giving out those cards along with the information packet that I give out as well that clearly explains your scam. I get about 6 to 8 people a week that got scammed by you people and the list is getting longer! So as long as you are there, I will be here to educate the public about your scam! And furthermore, Your signs are a direct violation of the law and I am heading out now to take pictures for the Tn and Ga AG. And you may even know the Asst. Georgia Attorney General for the Georgia Supreme Court order, Sidney Barrett. I have come to know him well. Go figure.... The moral to this is that by Chuck making that statement that it was soemone else doing the signs, shows that the sLyirde scam is alive and well and they are doing it right there in Clarksville! I'm off here, I'm heading out to take pictures. Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

Thanks for that 411 Keith! Have you heard anything new on the push to get sLyride out of Clarksville? Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

Who's are they and where are they? If it's sLyride, I'll take pictures of them and list the locations and take that info to the Attorney General. They are in direct violation of the State Law if there's no location on the signs. Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

I've heard of them doing it in the past, but I thought that with all the litigation in AZ and GA, the Ga Court order and the new Tennessee law, They would not go there. But I was stupid enough to think that they would comply with the law and get their websites right, so, yes, it is entirely possible that you are right. I'll look for them in Nashville tomorrow and get on here and give the answer. Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

Hey Keith, Is Jim posting signs in Nashville? He's got them, I didn't think about him, so that could be the answer. Ya think? Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

NOPE! It is definitely NOT us. If it were us, I would probably be the one putting up the signs and I have not done any signs. Plus, we do not sell gift Certificates anymore because there's so much fraud with the sLyride issue that we opted out of those. I'll be in Nashville tomorrow and I'll keep my eyes open for any such signs. It may be Mike Mullins or Cullman. I have not seen them as of yet, so I cannot say who it is yet, but I'll post a follow up if I can find out who it is. Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

You give meaningless persons too much credit. "The dark side" of skydiving was, is and shall ever be the satanic twisting of our fair sport from its normal orientation on our bellies into unnatural head down positions that would send shivers down the spine of any God fearing soul. Furthermore the usage of demonic 'lift' a la Furnarianic positions not only destroys our sport, it imperils your soul. edited for the spelling of the beast. AAAHHHH! "I see" says the blind man! Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

As long as a person does not jump at or support in any way 1 800 sLyride or a sLyride affiliated DZ, they are not on the "Dark" Side. Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

HERE HERE!!!! Chris, You are da man! Please run as a write in, You already have my vote! We need someone to un-seat Vic's skyride lovin ass! And YES! I did! Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org

I'm a member, and I don't have any problem with the USPA, I just kinda take issue with the mentality that USPA is that almighty ruling authority of skydiving. I just thought it was kinda chicken poop to settle with sLyride. I think they should have stood their ground. Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org