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I have never heard this before, but it certainly makes a lot of sense considering the recent hijacking of the US by the Executive Branch of the that country. Notice that Prescott Bush was included in this lot of crooks. I'd be interested to hear your opinions and thoughts on its merits. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/document_20070723.shtml

Have you watched the Loose Change video in its entirety?

I'm not sure why but not sure how big of a deal that is either. While I understand where you are coming from, that it would make it easier later to easily justify later intentions, they have obviously shown they didn't need that to invade Iraq. He had already become glorified a villain in the US Media long before the 03 invasion. Besides that, they bombed the shit out of him quite a few times already years prior, so why again would they need Iraqis as hijackers?

Those kids rip those PM guys to shreds! I love it!

1. If a series of mistakes led to these two planes striking the towers, killing almost 3000 people, why have the folks that made the 'mistakes' not been charged, fired, relieved of duty or anything? 2. What about all the cars that were on the ground having engines burned up, various parts of the paint blistered, yet other parts untouched. Signs that the metals got so hot they melted the rubber off the rims but left the rims and steel belts from inside the tires? Loose papers all around making it obvious that the super hot fuel fires didn't reach the ground to melt the cars. It should have been all used up 'weakening' the 46 center columns around where the plane hit. 3. The plane that hit the pentagon supposedly made a flyover of the pentagon at 7000 feet, circles around and hits the pentagon, in the only place specifically upgraded to handle a direct hit from a plane. (but they had no idea that could happen?) This all happened almost an HOUR after the first plane hit WTC1? (I would think we obviously know we are under attack, as two buildings have now been hit with planes) but fighters arrive to defend Washington 15 minutes after the pentagon is hit? That just sounds like way to many folks fell down on their jobs and we get back to the question of #1 4. Why again didn't they trace all the put options placed on the two airlines in the week leading up to 911? They could have arrested someone and asked them how the heck they knew to put those puts. BUT they didn't go after those folks and kinda stopped talking about it. Is that not an unanswered question? Of course not. However, since he took out the lease a mere 7 weeks prior to the attacks AND he was the sole leaser of the only 3 steel buildings to EVER collapse due to fires AND he was able to double his insurance settlement since it was classified as two attacks AND he is on record stating they were going to 'pull' building 7- he is either the luckiest MF I have ever seen in my life, or he was a central part of the biggest lie Bush and Co have told to date. Anyone know if Silverstein got insurance money for building 7 too?

As it is stated in the PNAC document "Rebuilding America's Defenses", they (PNAC) needed an event "like a new Pearl Harbor" for their plans to be realized. PNAC members are riddled throughout the current administration, and the event they were looking for happened on 911. They were able to invalidate the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Civil Rights in one document, which was obviously prepared well before 911, in 'The Patriot Act'. The second attack on America then allowed Bush to declare war on and occupy Afganistan, then Iraq, and soon Iran. Wikipedia openly states that the organization of PNAC heavily supported the invasion of Iraq. Well, with PNAC being primarily funded by the energy and 'defense' weapons industries, I am really not surprised. With all 3 buildings that collapsed being owned by the same person and gaining MINDBLOWING profits on the insurance settlements, and so many other weird, unanswered questions, it should be no surprise that this administration is the most secretive and waited almost a year before starting an 'investigation' into the events of 911. We had already invaded Afganistan and the site was almost totally cleaned for goodness sakes! If the masses really knew what was going on.. An excellent site to learn the darker side of the Project for the New American Century, (PNAC) http://www.oldamericancentury.org/pnac.htm So many inconsistencies exist regarding 911 for this all to be merely coincidence. It is still staggering to me that folks would continue to believe the official version. Especially in here. But not many folks like the negative attention that comes with believing in UFOs or the official version of 911 or benefits of the medical industry or anything else that goes against the grain of the majority... If they saw these things for what they were, they would actually have to do something different and it is much easier to just continue to deny. Change becomes unnecessary through denial. Not to mention, I am sure it is a lot more fun for them to make fun of us But people have historically have made fun of anyone that evokes change ultimately, so whatever. I can take it..

Here is a excellent example of our 'managed press' http://abcnews.go.com/US/VATech/story?id=3064333&page=1 This ABC 'news' story states Cho bought Ammo from Ebay. If you read the article, it only states he bought 2 10 round clips then magically, the clips turn into ammo. But ammo is not sold on ebay! Magazines are, but not sure what is wrong with that. I suppose could be considered a mistake, but it looks intentionally deceiving to me. Other opinions?

Well, I guess I define "Free Press" as a collection of objective, investigative, impartial, governmental monitoring publications for delivering information for dissemination to the citizens of the country where this 'free press' supposedly exists. We do not have that in the US. I suspect we have a 'managed press' as we get very partial and one-sided information, meant to influence our thinking to various government approved ways of thought. Independent thought is ultimately not encouraged. Everything is black or white, no gray. You are either with us or you are with the terrorists. I did read many of the pages from the link you posted. Very interesting site. While the video I posted was accused of being propaganda, that site seemed even more so to me. Please look at this site to 'debunk' your 'debunk'. http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/ Orthodox Torah Jews DO NOT support the Zionist state of Israel, but this would obviously not be covered in the US Media. Just the same as horrific black on white crime is not covered, nor the abolishment of our civil rights to protect us from 'terrorists', toxic GM corn, Mexican truck drivers driving Mexican trucks in the US, how states with conceal carry laws actually have lower crime rates, Electronic voting machines, Clinton dismissing all the investigations Bush Sr was involved in. Why are they not investigating these insane profits the oil companies are reporting, and see if there is some relation to the insane prices we are paying at the pump, and see if 'wal-marting' the gas prices back in the late 90's and putting the little refineries out of biz, then buying up their foreclosed properties to have better control of the spigot? See if buying up the patents of your superior competition, then mothballing that superior technology in favor of status quo could be considered a crime of some sort in the public eye. I bet it would. I'm sorry, with all these 'expert reporters' out there giving us Anna Nichole ad nausem and other Hollywood related BS, I find the video I suggested very informative and somewhat indicative of why I call it an 'idiot box'

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6604775898578139565 Think we have free press in the US? watch this and think again...

This blog article explains it all. http://pcapostate.blogspot.com/2007/04/nappy-headed-hoes.html

No, but his daddy was associated with very high level CIA officials during that war, and was appointed director of that agency shortly after that war, so...

would he not be letting go because the victim mentality is the message being focused on for the black community to hook into? I am of course referring to the part of the black community that finds the Sharpton/Jackson message the one they choose to focus on, rather than the self empowerment message from the likes of Bill Cosby. Who got chastised for his message if I recall correctly. That may be why a white on black crime would be more newsworthy than a black on white crime.

Has anyone seen the video where the Secret Servicemen are obviously told to stand down immediately after the motorcade started? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8 It certainly would support the assassination 'conspiracy' theory

Here's a great video, would love to hear how anyone can defend the official version of those events from this devastating documentary... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3967677791931129793

Don't know if this has been posted yet here or not, if so- sorry. Thought the taxpayers should be aware it can happen to you too! It seems on December 4, 2006, the 9th Circuit reversed the United States Tax Court on whether litigation costs involving the IRS making a claim that was 3 times what they were actually owed was the liability of the McKee family to suffer. An added penalty so to speak. It is a short read but the sum of it is the Tax Court held the IRS was not liable for their calculation blunders on the basis that the Tax Court, in its discretion, claimed the regulations written by the IRS and codes were so complex that the IRS could not be held liable for its failure to understand them. The 9th Circuit reversed. The Commissioner of the Internal Revenue asked the 9th Circuit not to make the decision public. mp3 is of Paul Harvey making it public... edited to add attachments , okay can't upload mp3... hmm I will figure that out and get back to you

Lou Dobbs has addressed the beginnings of this assualt on American Soverignty in this capture from CNN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdxI0zClV_Y Billvon, the reason why the Euro is doing so well is that it is backed partially by precious metal reserves, and it is the currency of anti-US governments (pre-occupation Iraq). The rest of the world knows the dollar is a fiat currency based on nothing, but being the biggest market for oil in the world everybody must 'pay to play' in the precious US market. It is generally known that Saddam Hussien biggest mistake was not what he did to the Kurds or anyone else. He publicly stated he would no longer accept dollars for oil, euros only. Not long after this, we invaded Iraq. Coincidence?

Maybe then these folks would give a crap. Too bad it will be too late by then... I do imagine by that time though, they will endorse it because it will be accepted as 'normal business' by that time in most places, and one currency instead of two or more is just 'easier' or 'good business'...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070109/od_nm/pesos_pizzas_usa_dc_2 Mark my words- this is the beginning of the shift from the US dollar to the Amero - the new currency of the NAU (north american union) currently being debated in different circles. Which will represent the final stage of destruction of our fine Republic so many of our ancestors died for.

Statements from an Israeli general on what to do with Iran- http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3346275,00.html What bothers me is the obvious influence they flaunt over OUR government. Obviously, if you have bought into the 'War on Terror' you will be very happy that we are about to destroy another country and this fact will be minimized. But if you have an ounce of REAL Patiriotism in you (not the yellow magnet patriotism) it should piss you off that a small country of sefl rightious individuals that have elevated themselves above everyone else, and expect us to continue to keep prtecting them from their created boogymen.

Since I am definately one of these non-engineer types you describe, I thought of a question you could answer for me. Has there been any changes to the structural requirements for the large skyscrapers since 9-11 that you are aware of? It sounds kinda like the structures 'failed' in some way or another, and if that is the case, then building codes should change as a result right? Thicker steel maybe? Thicker concrete floors? Please understand this is a serious question.

Nuclear weapons are banned in international treaties are they not? Depleted Uranium is nuclear waste and the government simply states that they are not 'real nukes' or 'not harmful' so it doesn't count in their opinion. A simple 'depends on what the definition of 'is' is' answer to the question. Depends on what you define as a nuke weapon. Reports of phosporus weapons having been used as well in Falluja and Lebanon are out there as well.

And Michele there are plenty of places to find your opinion as well. Hell just turn on the propaganda box, otherwise called TV, and it spews forward with all the mind numbing BS you could ever want... been there done that, no more thanks...

Your right, it says he doesn't care where he is, it is not important to the bigger war on terror (translation-who's next) - he can't be important if we are now looking for terrorists and WMD in Iraq, now can we. How is whether I think they would have shot them down relevent? They have always been there to escort the planes out. Here is exactly what they were trained to do, respond to this emergency, but they were nowhere to be found until much later. Don't know if they would have shot them down, but at least they would have been able to say they did their job, which thye can't do now... Junk Science? what is junk science? that floors can pancake at unemcumbered speed? That these steel columns were hit with such force they just 'sheer off' with no time necessary to do so? That sounds like junk science to me. I don't watch TV. To much BS comes out of it. May explain your beliefs though...

It is pointless to argue with us, because we used to think like you do. Then the many many obvious examples of a corrupt and out of touch government, all the wierd secrecy, leading us into war after war not seeming to learn from their mistakes. Using weapons banned by international treaties, and having the majority of our elected leaders receiving massive funds and kickbacks from the lobbists, the morally twisted predatory behaviours of senators on our young men, sheesh. How much corruption and sickness does people need to see before they recognize the direction this is going?? If these leaders are capable and willing to lie and cover up such a wide range of issues, then that makes all of their statements questionable doesn't it?

Im not sure that we don't invade Korea for that reason. They don't have something we need they can hold over our heads (friendly, dollar based oil), nor are they a threat to Isreal (our 3 billion tax-dollar-a-year little nuke country that's not a nuke country)