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Kucinich Offers Impeachment Articles Against Bush
cumplidor replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in Speakers Corner
So does this mean to say you do not believe that the Administration intentionally deceived the public and congress to support the invasion of Iraq? -
Kucinich Offers Impeachment Articles Against Bush
cumplidor replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in Speakers Corner
Do you think that lying to Congress for the purpose of launching an invasion is an actual crime? Or do you not think he was lying? -
To me, coupled with his other character traits, would seem to indicate a pattern of instability that really makes me question his ability to lead anything. He can't even remember what the heck he votes for, and watching some of his interviews really scare me (more than W's?- not sure) . I seriously doubt he will beat Obama, he will probably flip sometime before elections and make sure of that. Or just keep up the interviews like the one he had the day he 'officially' got his new opponent and that will have the same effect.
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I guess that is what I was eluding to, I'm just not that educated to articulate it proper. Regarding Clinton, I was referring to Obama being the media darling, which reminded me of when Clinton was way back when.
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Notice to Americans - This Energy Crisis is Worldwide
cumplidor replied to lawrocket's topic in Speakers Corner
I'm sure most of you have heard of this woman, Vandana Shiva, but I just found out about her and find her take on todays situations very refreshing and make so much sense. from the page- Be interested to hear what you all think- -
Kucinich Offers Impeachment Articles Against Bush
cumplidor replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in Speakers Corner
That's the same BS they used to explain why Ron Paul won the online polls! -
Oh. It's not like he could lie about it, and he wasn't evil enough to have her popped off like that dick brain in Florida who had the Judge do it for him. I personally didn't know this but I should have known this bunch would have already knew. A bit surprised at your nonchalant attitude though. I just wondered if that was a moral trait our potential 'leader' should have? I imagine Obama is gonna get it anyway, so it really doesn't matter. He is the media darling after all.. Reminds me of the way Clinton was portrayed in the early 90s.
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FEMA Gives away 85 million in Katrina Supplies
cumplidor replied to cumplidor's topic in Speakers Corner
That's not really what I wanted to point out. Wasteful spending would have to start with the war in Iraq and the billions 'misplaced' or unaccounted for. The billions 'lost' by the contractors, and the spiking of the story in the states. And 'ol W hollerin' for mo' all the time- No, I thought it was interesting how they uncovered this by wanting to tear down the warehouse it was stored in to build something else. Which I kinda wish I knew what they wanted to destroy a seemingly sound warehouse for. I realize they say they offered the supplies to LA and other agencies and was refused, but that seems rather odd too? Like a cover statement? Maybe not. Too much corruption in govt to catch it all. -
Kucinich Offers Impeachment Articles Against Bush
cumplidor replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in Speakers Corner
You can vote on this very topic at MSNBC- http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904/ I will go ahead and spoil the results- almost 700k votes- 89% support impeachment- wow- watch that NOT send a message to Congress. -
FEMA Gives away 85 million in Katrina Supplies
cumplidor replied to cumplidor's topic in Speakers Corner
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/11/fema.giveaway/index.html -
Did anyone of you know this about the potential Presidential ex? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html
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Kucinich Offers Impeachment Articles Against Bush
cumplidor replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in Speakers Corner
Oh and I applaud Dennis for having morals, balls and backbone like few other politicians- Politicians whose job is supposed to be the individual citizens protectors. Not the corporate citizens. -
Kucinich Offers Impeachment Articles Against Bush
cumplidor replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in Speakers Corner
I disagree. If someone has committed high crimes against the citizens of the US, violated and dismantled the Constitution and rebuilt it to suit him, [B]ILLEGALLY invaded another country using off the shelf plans- based on proven manipulation of information, then impeachment and trial cannot come soon enough. ESPECIALLY before the 'on the table' attack on Iran takes place, or another 'terrorist' attack occurs on US soil which will allow further implement Executive Orders already on the books which authorizes the 'Decider' to suspend the Constitution, elections and anything else, until such time he determines the threat has left. What the heck happened to Congress declaring war, rather than the Executive Office? He needs to be impeached as soon as possible and any delay or disagreement seems to me to be the whole friggen problem in this country anyway and puts that congressmen or whoever in the same light. -
Free Trade at work! US Farms outsource to Mexico! wonder why it showed up in the Philippines AP press?
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I am not trying to get on your nerves. But do see it- my sincere apologies. Okay, the difference between the different Holocausts throughout history is that this one was committed to exterminate the race of Jewry. Understood. I guess I just don't understand that then translates to the formation of a country under fairly hostile conditions. Or that is again my perception of that part of history. I thought that was where the Palestinan refugees came from originally? Is that what the 'Right of Return' that they want that Israel refuses to allow? The 1/1000 statement was spoken by one, but it appeared to me in the article that he was not alone. There were articles in the same paper that made allegations that another Rabbi from a different Yeshiva had authorized individuals to issue retribution for the attack since IDF didn't. The reports were denied however by authorities. I read a different article from a different paper where the Christians living in Israel are spit on by some Rabbis. The actions are condemed by the government. But the actions were described as fairly commonplace by the victims. To me, something seems odd with that attitude showing itself in so many different places- religious places. I am certain that most folks living in Israel are working hard like the rest of us at just getting by and doing the best we can, just like everywhere else. It just seems to me, with the very heavy hand Israel has and (seems to frequently) use with nothing more than self-restraint guiding their retalitory actions, is awfully brutal and massive overkill often times- in response to events that hurt very few or no one? Actions such as that, as well as 30' high walls that block farmers from their lands, making access difficult or impossible, reports that school children are shot in the head by IDF soldiers, just would indicate an attitude that lines up with the 1/1000 kind of statement rather than an attitude or promotion of any sort of peace. Sorry one more question- Are the refugees in Gaza or elsewhere considered citizens of Israel or what is their status? Thank you again-
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Thank you again for taking the time. So as I understand you to say, Freedom of Speech is okay as long as it is not used to question the Holocaust. I am still not certain why there must be laws to 'protect' history as much as maybe to 'protect those with the right to change history', as they have seemingly done, multiple times by dropping the number 'exterminated' by the millions. I question the circumstances that these countries created these laws too. I disagree with "crimes of thought' of any nature. I read you to say earlier that the difference between this Holocaust and the not as important others are the fact that there was an attempt to exterminate the entire race- right? That would seem almost logistically impossible to me. There were countless Jews in many many other places that makes that statement seem impossible even for a crazed dictator. How could they get to them all? I understood that members of the Zionist Party in Nazi Germany had much more freedom that history discusses or acknowledges. Are you familiar with this or is this simply not true? The 1/1000 statement was provided in a link earlier, and can be read here. Maybe this guy is the Israeli version of David Duke I dunno. If so, then why hasn't he been stripped of the ability to teach? If that type of attitude is allowed to teach, they would then transfer that attitude of hate to many more, would they not? If the government or the religion does nothing to stop this type of behavior, does that mean the state endorses the behavior or 'free speech'? And I ask again- have you attended school at a Yeshiva or are you familiar with some of their teachings? Is the Yeshiva like the only kind of college or are there other kinds? Thanks again-
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No Amazon, I just wanted to hear what you thought of it. I like the way you justify it - I think of it as more a blatent attack, where you I guess you see it as a 25 minute 'oops' that was simply doesn't need to be investigated at all. Surviving members of the crew forbidden to discuss the incident. WHY? That doesn't send up flags that scream something is wrong? Anytime the government says 'we don't need an investigation'- it screams of ill doings. What is a Volksfront type since I seem to be getting called one now? and excuse for what?
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Thank you for showing me that I obviously have a great deal to learn about how Israeli citizenship works. Did I understand you to say- for anyone that doesn't agree with the Holocaust? Can you explain to me why it would be necessary to jail individuals who choose to disagree with (lawfully defined) history? The fact that history has been revised numerous times already, would seem to lend credibility to some of these folks arguments, I would think. Why can they (Jewish leaders) arbitrarily revise the amount of dead claimed during the Holocaust (essentially changing history), but not historians? That seems illogical to me. Again I say, Truth does not fear investigation. And as well, could you please help me understand how a religious leader could get away with the 1/1000 statement previously noted, in response to the Attack? Also, have you attended school at a Yeshiva or are you familiar with some of their teachings? Is the Yeshiva like the only kind of college or are there other kinds? Thanks for taking the time-
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I think that deafening cricket chirping sound before was coming from your computer. USS Liberty? - Hellooooooo surely you remember that event?
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Seems no one wants to address the bigoted 1/1000 statement, made by one of the religious leaders of Israel, and published in their newspaper for the world to see. But I am the racist??? Any non-zionist, anyone who doesn't agree with the Holocaust, any Palestinians who want their stolen lands back, etc Oh they obviously felt contempt for the boys of the USS Liberty, to bomb the hell out of them for 20+ minutes. (where did they get this 'oops- intelligence mistake' script from anyway?) Oh yea- How's that citizenship thing work in Israel? Do the Arabs have EQUAL rights under terms of being a citizen of Israel? All Non-Jews have equal rights as citizens? Are the Arabs allowed to owning land? Are they allowed to vote (does their vote matter anyway??). You know, how every citizen in the US has EQUAL rights . You got that over there? The zionist leaders who had their country (Israel) in the bag now (created with the Balfaur Declaration during WWI). That was not quite the understanding I had of this time period. I do understand, that the actual number of the Holocaust has been revised quite a few times. Originally 8 million, then the generally accepted 6 million, but the Auchwitz camp plaque has even changed to reduce the number claiming to be killed in that camp. Why do countries have friggin laws against discussing this? If truth does not fear investigation, what do they fear? The Holocaust is now considered fact and that event has been jammed down our throat as fact, and no investigation is allowed. (revisionist historians are put in Jail as you know) But this 'event' facilitated a radical change and created a new country, carved out of a 'territory', and given to the Zionists. And we can't question it. Please understand I do know Jewish folks who do not agree with the policies of Israel, and I also know Muslim Arabs who are not extremist in any way.
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If you cannot see the OBVIOUS contempt that Zionist Israelis have for not just Arabs, but Christians or anyone else non-zionist, you are almost beyond help. You absolutely refuse any potential or idea that the Israelis may actually be the aggressor in this relationship? Or are the Zionists simply just looking for some pretext to completely bust their ass, further punishing not just the extremists, but ALL who live there. Don't they just want the land anyway? The history of the government of Israel expelling native peoples to surrounding countries is extensive for 'settlements'. Now they just bomb the fuck out out of any who hold any hope of getting their families historical lands back from the 'settlers'. How does Israel make an offer to all foreign Jews for free land to come 'home'. I'm sure you remember the USS Liberty? What is your thoughts and who was the aggressor in that incident? PLEASE, please Amazon, answer this question... BTW- I found some very interesting reading- The history and definition of usury. I would theorize that some of the Arab/Israeli conflict has some roots in this concept too. It appears that Islam totally FORBIDS usury or charging interest on loaning money (they even have totally different kinds of banks and such). Early Christians did too! Interestingly, Jews also forbid charging interest on money borrowed- but only against other Jews. I guess we are here to serve the Jews after all eh? Wonder if this would be related in any way to the (cough, cough) trillions of dollars the taxpayers of the US owe to the Federal Reserve Bank (you know who that is right?), and the massive interest payments we make to these folks... Only interest though- no principal (that = less profit you know). But doesn't this all seem to fall right in line with the statement made shortly after the event of this topic "the life of 1 Yeshiva boy is worth more than the lives of 1000 Arabs". Which seems a pretty odd statement unless you are some bigot who views yourself as better than anyone else because of their _____ (religion, skin color, gender, amount of wealth, social status, age, education, etc). But look at their history? What keeps getting these folks into the messes they get into??? Their business practices maybe?? Why the heck is their Holocaust more important than the countless other holocausts that have taken place anyway? What about the holocaust of the African slaves brought to all points of the world? I remember in history class hearing that close to 1-2 in 10 actually made it to the destination? If there were millions of slaves, that means the Holocaust of the African Slaves was much more costly to their people right? But didn't they just view Africans as animals anyway, justifying in their minds what they were doing as okay?? See any similarity of attitudes?
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I thought I remembered that the current Infida started when Arial Sharon went to the Temple Mount in defiance of the Palestinans.
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Nevermind. Have you ever read the many statements by the original leaders of Israel, which plainly state the utter contempt for Arabs, not to mention their feelings for any non-Jews. This is the core of their religion! That doesn't sound like a live and let live type of mentality. So you apparently feel that Israel is gracious by not 'wiping the Arabs off the face of the map' but yet rather keeping them packed in tight in refugee camps and starving them all for the actions of a few. Do you believe since the KKK committed horrible crimes against black folks, that all whites should have been punished?
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It is easy to define what 'Peace' is when you are the 800 lb gorilla. Hamas has now offered to recognize Israel if they recognize their gains of the 1967 war, rather than the expanded borders they now enjoy. Does that register with you? Sound like peace?
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It is much easier when your opponents have homemade rockets and rocks while you have US supplied cluster bombs, DU weapons, tanks, rifles and tons of US $. The Palestinians have for quite some time been refugees. you do understand how they became refugees? They have been deprived of food, fuel, water, etc. How would you feel and what exactly would you do if you had been born in that situation? Can you put yourself there mentally? Think you might feel a bit desperate? I am sure if I am watching my family and friends die, mine or my neighbors house destroyed by bulldozers, seeing a 30foot high concrete wall separate me from olive groves that had been in my family for generations, watch my property and livelyhood be utterly destroyed- I would throw rocks too. I suppose you would just be one of those that folks that gives the occupiers whatever information they want with the hopes they may throw you a few stale breadcrumbs? Good thing Jefferson, Washington, and the rest of the founding fathers didn't think as you do!