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Just pointing out (again) that this was a premeditated war that was started under false pretenses and that most of America was played like a chump. So maybe next time people will pay attention and possibly ask some questions or do some reasearch before blindly following a misleadership simply because they have a particular letter behind their name.

The doors may be closing shortly on the nine-year-old Project for a New American Century, the neoconservative think tank headed by William Kristol , former chief of staff to Vice President Dan Quayle and now editor of the Weekly Standard, which is must reading for neocon cogitators and agitators. The PNAC was short on staff -- having perhaps a half-dozen employees -- but very long on heavy hitters. The founders included Richard B. Cheney , Donald H. Rumsfeld , Paul D. Wolfowitz , Jeb Bush , I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby , William J. Bennett, Zalmay Khalilzad and Quayle. The goal was to continue the Reaganite, muscular approach to projecting American power and "moral clarity" in a post-Cold War world, the group's manifesto said. The targets were liberal drift and conservative isolationism. PNAC and its supporters dominated the Bush administration's foreign policy apparatus and championed a policy to get rid of Saddam Hussein long before Sept. 11, 2001. In its famous 1998 letter to President Bill Clinton , PNAC said "removing Saddam Hussein and his regime . . . now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy." Clinton was urged to use all diplomatic, political and military means to topple him. Despite the happy chatter before the Iraq invasion about cheering crowds and bouquets and cakewalks and how the war was going to pay for itself, the signatories wrote that "we are fully aware of the dangers of implementing this policy." There had been debate about PNAC's future, but the feeling, a source said, was of "goal accomplished" and it looks to be heading toward closing. Former executive director Gary J. Schmitt , who had been executive director of President Ronald Reagan 's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, left recently for a post at the American Enterprise Institute. (Not a big move. Actually, only five floors up from PNAC.) Still, seems like a short century. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/11/AR2006061100739.html

She's so hot I'd crawl five miles across hot pavement just to suck the lug nuts of the truck that takes her panties to the wash!

If FOX news was supported by your tax dollars, would you approve of them? No. "Fox News" is an oxymoron. Listen to NPR and you will know more about everything, whether you like it or not. That's because they give you the whole story using respectful dialog. Listen to Fox News and you'll get part of the story, disrespectful dialog and you'll have your opinion handed to you. So if you want to listen and think, try NPR. If you want to hear and cheer, entertain yourself with FOX.

Just a reminder, Jesus was a liberal

I've got a nine inch tounge and can breathe through my ears.

Man, those last two paragraphs pretty much sum up why I'm pissed off at the R's. I didn't always agree with some of the philosophy but I always knew what to count on. Not any more. And I'm pissed off at the D's for not being able to utilize the R's failures so we can at very least get ourselves back to a nice, orderly, stagnant gridlock.

Actually I think the Iraqi's missed out on that opportunity. I think it they were all Saudi and Pakistani.

Come on guys, you're missing the easiest one! Friends with the leader of a country that actually attacked us! Jeeez. Saudi Arabia attacked us? When did this happen? You're kidding right? Ok, maybe the government didn't officially attack us. It was just a few Saudi citizens.........and Saudi money. But hey, we've attacked countries for a lot less than that.

These folks don't think that way. http://www.optruth.org I've heard Reickhoff talk and I recently ordered his book. He seems to have his head screwed on straighter than most people.

Come on guys, you're missing the easiest one! Friends with the leader of a country that actually attacked us! Jeeez.

I don't have enough information to know about that but his closing sentence indicates balls the size of Texas: I think it's great and I hope he continues to pursue this power grabbing executive branch. Unfortunately I've seen Spectre cave in to "the party" before, like when he didn't require Gonzales to swear in for testimony. Let's hope he holds firm this time.

Yea, sorry. I grabbed the wrong reply.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/11/01/ret.afghan.fooddrops/index.html

From the mouth of your president, God's conduit.....the tin tounged crusader, George Duuuuuubyaaaaa BUSH: This is a new kind of, a new kind of evil... And the American people are beginning to understand. This crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to take a while. And American people must be patient. Washington, D.C., Sep. 16, 2001 And I just -- I cannot speak strongly enough about how we must collectively get after those who kill in the name of -- in the name of some kind of false religion. Press appearance with King Abdullah of Jordan, Aug. 1, 2002 If I may, I'd like to remind you what I said at the State of the Union. Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to each and every person. And that's what I believe. I believe that when we see totalitarianism, that we must deal with it. White House, Mar. 6, 2003 We can also be confident in the ways of Providence, even when they are far from our understanding. Events aren't moved by blind change and chance. Behind all of life and all of history, there's a dedication and purpose, set by the hand of a just and faithful God. And that hope will never be shaken. Washington, D.C., Feb. 6, 2003 I based a lot of my foreign policy decisions on some things that I think are true. One, I believe there's an Almighty, and secondly, I believe one of the great gifts of the Almighty is the desire in everybody's soul, regardless of what you look like or where you live, to be free. Irvine, California, Apr. 24, 2006

First of all, Bush doing his "homework"? Hahahaha! He's a clueless tool. Now that I've gotten that out of the way I've got good news for the thread. I just saw a video of the area on CNN and what I thought were buildings were actually trees. That house looks like it was pretty well isolated so chances are that only the people in that building were killed. Of course that doesn't change the fact that cluster bomblets and food aid packages look the same, but at least this time it worked out ok.

Interesting article on the subject from the Washington Post. Iraqi Tribes Strike Back at Insurgents In Turbulent Areas, Zarqawi's Fighters Are Target of Leaders and a New Militia By John Ward Anderson Washington Post Foreign Service Tuesday, March 7, 2006; A12 BAGHDAD, March 6 -- First they killed the chief of the Naim tribe and his son. Then they killed a top tribal sheik who headed the Fallujah city council. Then they assassinated the leader of the al-Jubur tribe. And now the reported killers of all these men -- al-Qaeda in Iraq, the insurgent group of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi -- have a powerful new enemy. Tribal chiefs in Iraq's western Anbar province and in an area near the northern city of Kirkuk, two regions teeming with insurgents, are vowing to strike back at al-Qaeda in Iraq, a Sunni Arab-led group that is waging war against Sunni tribal leaders who are cooperating with the Iraqi government and the U.S. military. Anbar tribes have formed a militia that has killed 20 insurgents from al-Qaeda in Iraq, leaders said. Separately, more than 300 tribal chiefs, politicians, clerics, security officials and other community leaders met last week in Hawijah, about 35 miles southwest of Kirkuk, and "declared war" on al-Qaeda in Iraq. In a communique, the participants vowed "the shedding of blood" of anyone involved in "sabotage, killings, kidnappings, targeting police and army, attacking the oil and gas pipelines and their transporters, assassinating the religious and tribal figures, technicians, and doctors." "Hawijah was never a hideout for terrorists and fugitives," the statement added. "Anyone who provides refuge to terrorists will be considered and dealt with like a criminal and terrorist." Last month at a briefing in Baghdad, Maj. Gen Rick Lynch, a U.S. military spokesman, said Zarqawi "finds these tribal leaders who have opted to embrace the democratic process . . . and he works to assassinate" them. "What we're finding is indeed the people of al-Anbar -- Fallujah and Ramadi, specifically -- have decided to turn against terrorists and foreign fighters," he said. "The tribal leaders, if you will, said, 'Okay, that's enough, let's take out Zarqawi and his network and get them out of our cities.' " Lynch said "local insurgents" had killed six Zarqawi deputies in Ramadi since September. Anbar province is a center of the insurgency and the deadliest region of the country outside of Baghdad for Iraqi civilians and U.S. forces. Tribal chiefs there said their militia, the al-Anbar Revolutionaries, has killed 20 foreign fighters from al-Qaeda in Iraq and 33 Iraqi sympathizers who aided the insurgents with arms and money in the past two months. "Forming the group did not come from nothing," said Khalaf al-Fahdawi, a leader of the Sunni Albu Fahd tribe in Anbar. "It came from a need to destroy al-Qaeda, which we thought the Marines might have been able to do. We were wrong, since these armed men became stronger and raped other cities." Leaders in Anbar and south of Kirkuk said they opposed both Zarqawi and the American military occupation of Iraq, describing them as feeding off each other to the detriment of the country. "We are a group of the Anbar people who want to get rid of Zarqawi . . . because this is the only way to make the Americans withdraw from Ramadi or Iraq in general," said Ahmed Abu Ilaf, 30, a welder and member of the new Anbar militia from Ramadi, about 60 miles west of the capital. "We are against Zarqawi and his followers because they aim to extend the presence of the occupation and hurt our forces to make them weak," said Hussein Ali al-Jubouri, a Sunni tribal leader and Hawijah city council member. Hawijah leaders said they, too, wanted to create a militia to enforce their threats, but that U.S. military officials were opposed to the idea. For the time being, they said, they would intensify their cooperation with Iraqi military and police units. Members of the Anbar militia said the group comprised about 100 people who have had relatives slain by al-Qaeda in Iraq. The group is led by Ahmed Ftaikhan, a former Iraqi intelligence officer from the now-disbanded Iraqi army who lives in Ramadi. Fahdawi, the sheik from the Albu Fahd tribe, said the militia was forged in a series of secret meetings among tribal leaders, each of whom was asked to help form the group. Some contributed men, some money, Fahdawi said. U.S. military officers attended some of the meetings, he said, and helped "with "all kinds of financial support." Lt. Col. Barry Johnson, a U.S. military spokesman in Baghdad, denied that American forces were funding the militia. "All military activity is conducted through the legitimate structures of the Iraqi government and security forces," he said in an e-mail. "We are working hard to ensure these structures function properly, and funding a program such as this would only undermine that process." A fighter in Zarqawi's group, calling himself Abu Azzam, said the al-Anbar Revolutionaries "are collaborators and dogs for America. They kill the mujaheddin to get money from the American crusaders. They are cowards and we have killed a lot of them. . . . All the people here support us and our jihad against the Americans and their followers." Fahdawi said, "I cannot say that all the people in Ramadi support us, but I can say 80 percent of them do." Ilaf, the militia member and welder from Ramadi, said the group has had real success. "We have killed a number of the Arabs, including Saudis, Egyptians, Syrians, Kuwaitis, Syrians and Jordanians," he said. "We were also able to foil an attack by Zarqawi's men who were trying to attack an oil pipeline outside Ramadi. We killed four Iraqis trying to plant the bomb under the pipeline." Other Washington Post staff contributed to this report. © 2006 The Washington Post Company

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/images/06/07/cheney.pdf

Now THIS is a prime example of what they call "armchair quarterbacking", with instant replay even!

Well, at least that's what you're hoping. It's going to be hard to come up with a different legacy, what with current events and accurate historical accounts working against him. History was so much easier to revise before the internet.

I've got it on DVD. Behold, Darth Benedict!

I'll buy.

Yep. It would be nice if our lawmakers would sit down and read it every once in a while.

With all this war stuff I forgot about Bob Schulz. I'm not familiar with this recent campaign but I remember he was heavy into the "income tax is illegal" thing a few years ago. He had some pretty good arguments. I need to revisit that.

Thanks for reminding me to check my "Bushisms" calendar. Let's see, today's quote: "We need to counter the shock wave of the evildoer by having individual rate cuts accelerated and by thinking about tax rebates." Washington, D.C.; October 4,2001 That's our boy!!!!