warpedskydiver

Damn theose guns in the hands of private citizens must me the problem in NYC, I mean that's why this cop was shot right????

NYPD Officer Arrested in Shooting of Cop Sunday, February 11, 2007 3:59 AM EST The Associated Press By DAVID B. CARUSO NEW YORK (AP) — An undercover police officer had been shot, and police were hunting for the suspect's vehicle. They soon found it — with another officer behind the wheel, police said. The driver, Officer Jacqueline Melendez-Rivera, quickly became a subject Saturday of an investigation by the force on which she has served for 13 years. As police pieced together an account of the early morning shootout on a Brooklyn street, Melendez-Rivera's husband, Jose Rivera, was arrested for attempted murder and other charges. Officer Melendez-Rivera was accused of helping to cover up the crime. The wounded officer, Andrew Suarez, was in serious but stable condition early Sunday at a local hospital, police said. Struck in the back, he was expected to make a full recovery, according to police. The violent confrontation unfolded in Brooklyn's Park Slope section. Investigators said Suarez and three fellow plainclothes officers, who were on a routine anti-crime watch, pulled their unmarked car over to get a closer look at a vehicle driving behind them. That vehicle then slowed alongside the officers. The driver leaned across the body of a male passenger, shouted "You got a beef?" and fired a shot at Suarez, who was driving the unmarked police car, Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said. The bullet traveled underneath Suarez' bulletproof vest, through his back and lodged in his neck. A second shot may also have been fired, Kelly said. The three officers with Suarez returned fire, blasting at least 13 shots before the other vehicle sped away, Kelly said. Shortly afterward, police stopped a vehicle matching the description of the one that had carried the attackers. They found Melendez-Rivera driving it, Kelly said. Just what the officer was doing with the car, 1 1/2 miles from the crime scene, was unclear, Kelly said before the arrests. Authorities said then that they did not believe the 37-year-old officer was present for the shooting. Her husband and another man were later detained at the couple's nearby home. Police said they later recovered a loaded 9mm handgun in a yard on the same block. Melendez-Rivera, who was suspended from duty, was arrested on charges of hindering prosecution, tampering with evidence, obstructing governmental administration and unlawful possession of marijuana, police said. Her 31-year-old husband was arrested on charges of attempted murder, assault, reckless endangerment, defacing a firearm, tampering with evidence, menacing and criminal possession of marijuana, police said. There was no listed telephone number at the couple's address, and a police spokesman said he had no information on whether the couple had lawyers. A spokesman for the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association said he was uncertain whether any of the group's lawyers were representing Melendez-Rivera. Meanwhile, Mayor Michael Bloomberg met with the injured officer at the hospital Saturday morning and said he was in good spirits. "We joked and we laughed," Bloomberg said. "We're just lucky this wasn't an awful lot worse." Suarez was appointed to the force in 2003 and is assigned to the 78th precinct. He was the first city police officer shot this year, and the third wounded by gunfire since October. "Let us pray that it's the last," Bloomberg said.

The damn liberal prison system will let him out after only 400 years, with good behavior and work time. Then you two can room together!ewwwwww

I would vote that the mods do nothing unless the OP is unwilling to go to said Iraqi skydiver and apologize like a man, and maybe even get to know him.

Equal Moral ground?....maybe in your mind. Wow...

You seem to want to hold the US accountable for actions in Iraq, and yet you don't seem to hold any other nation accountable for the ongoing violence? Please explain....I just don't understand that ideology

Official: Lawmakers See Iran Explosives Saturday, February 10, 2007 9:30 AM EST The Associated Press By LOLITA C. BALDOR MUNICH, Germany (AP) — U.S. military commanders in Iraq have shown members of Congress explosive devices that bear Iranian markings as evidence Tehran is supplying Iraqi militants with bombs, a senior U.S. government official said Saturday. One of the lawmakers, independent Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, said he has seen some of the evidence, though he would not be specific. "I'm convinced from what I've seen that the Iranians are supplying and are giving assistance to the people in Iraq who are killing American soldiers," said Lieberman, who was attending an international security conference in Munich. The senior official said military commanders in December showed lawmakers mortar rounds and other munitions and fragments that had Iranian serial numbers and markings. The official, who requested anonymity because the evidence collected has not been made public, said U.S. generals also displayed improvised explosive devices that they said reflected Iranian style. On Friday, Defense Secretary Robert Gates told reporters that serial numbers and other markings linked the Iranians to explosives used by insurgents in Iraq. His comments were among the Bush administration's first public assertions about evidence the military has collected. The administration and military officials have said repeatedly that Iranians have been tied to terrorist bombings in Iraq. But U.S. officials have said little about evidence, including any documents and other items collected in recent raids in Iraq, to bolster such claims. National security officials in Washington and Iraq have worked for weeks on a presentation intended to provide evidence for the administration's claims of what they say are Iran's meddlesome and deadly activities. Officials say the materials — which in their classified form include slides and 2 inches of documents — provide evidence of Iran's role in supplying Iraqi militants with highly sophisticated and lethal improvised explosive devices and other weaponry. Among the weapons is a roadside bomb known as an "explosively formed penetrator," which can pierce the armor of Abrams tanks with nearly molten-hot charges. One intelligence official said the U.S. is "fairly comfortable" it knows the source of the explosives. The Iran dossier also lays out alleged Iranian efforts to train Iraqis in military techniques. Government officials say there is some disagreement about how much to make public to support the administration's case. Intelligence officials worry the sources of their information could dry up. Among the evidence the administration will present are weapons that were seized in U.S.-led raids on caches around Iraq, one military official in Washington said on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly. Other evidence includes documents captured when U.S.-led forces raided an Iranian office Jan. 11 in Irbil in northern Iraq, the official said. Tehran said it was a government liaison office. The U.S. military said five Iranians detained in the raid were connected to an Iranian Revolutionary Guard faction that funds and arms insurgents in Iraq. The assertions have been met with skepticism by some lawmakers still fuming over intelligence reports used by the administration to propel the country to war with Iraq in 2003. In fact, a report this week by the Pentagon's internal watchdog criticized prewar assertions by the Defense Department about al-Qaida's connections to Iraq. Gates told reporters in Seville, Spain, on Friday that markings on explosives provide "pretty good" evidence that Iranians are supplying either weapons or technology for Iraqi extremists. "I think there's some serial numbers, there may be some markings on some of the projectile fragments that we found" that point to Iran, he said. Gates' remarks left unclear how the U.S. knows the serial numbers are traceable to Iran and whether such weapons would have been sent to Iraq by the Iranian government or by private arms dealers. Explosives have been a leading killer of U.S. forces in Iraq, where more than 3,000 U.S. troops have died in the nearly four-year-old war. Last week, Gates said U.S. military officers in Baghdad had planned to brief reporters on what was known about Iranian involvement in Iraq but that he and other senior officials delayed the briefing to assure the information was accurate. A White House spokeswoman, Dana Perino, said Friday that such information would come from U.S. officials in Iraq, though she did not say when. ——— Associated Press writers Pauline Jelinek and Katherine Shrader in Washington contributed to this report.

Oh I wasn't riled up...I did not mean it to sound that way..I was merely stating the hipocracy of such a tax.

There probably is a difference, but I'd spell it out as the difference between dispassionately considering the matter and getting your blood up. Saying calmly (though perhaps with intense conviction) that a crime is horrible and requires a response to satisfy a specific societal goal is probably healthy. On the other hand, competing to graphically describe increasingly extreme sadism is probably feeding an unhealthy inner urge. While I don't dispute their basic point that people should be discouraged from doing bad things, I wouldn't want them as friends. They're almost scarier than the criminals. There's been a lot of the latter sort of threads here recently. edited to clarify a point Who says they would want you as a friend? Also isn't it nice that you sit in judgement of others? I bet you feel very superior to most anyone, it is a good thing you don't have any flaws at all.

It is illegal to mail order ammunition if you live in Crook County Illinois

Ammunition is already taxed at a rate of 6.75%, so you think an additional tax of 10 cents per round is okay? I say bullshit

I guess if you make ammunition $1000.00 per round only the "right kind of people" will have ammunition eh?

Get back in your trunk!

Ummm you weren't drunk and in Mosul the other day were you? If so please try and refrain from lasing people for fun J/K

This is just another defacto way of keeping guns out of the hands of the law abiding. Herr Daley and Gov. Blowjobabitch have no concerns for anyones inalieble rights nor do they care about the rule of law. This was just the latest in many attempts to outlaw firearms and ammunition.

That would be the feared Fallujah Fairy Regiment in their safety green speedos.

You were overdressed.

Why did Scoop bust you? Geez talk about getting a cheap arrest

I am no doctor... Although I am willing to play like one

Quite possibly. But what now, have a President with no credibility, weakened military and huge public war debt go and start another war? If what you say is all true, Iran must be very worried. What do you think is on their minds right now? I know they have their agenda but it is surely realized that if they go too far and the US retaliates in any way they are sincerely in trouble. We may have our forces stretched thin, but we won't need to occupy Iran, nor would we want to, after the initial strike.

Gates: U.S. Can Prove Iran's Iraq Role By LOLITA C. BALDOR Associated Press Writer Latest Iran News Iran Warns U.S. It Will Retaliate if Hit Study Says Iran Textbooks Urge Martyrdom SEVILLE, Spain (AP) -- Serial numbers and markings on explosives used in Iraq provide "pretty good" evidence that Iran is providing either weapons or technology for militants there, Defense Secretary Robert Gates asserted Friday. Offering some of the first public details of evidence the military has collected, Gates said, "I think there's some serial numbers, there may be some markings on some of the projectile fragments that we found," that point to Iran. At the same time, however, he said he was somewhat surprised that recent raids by coalition and Iraqi forces in Iraq swept up some Iranians. Just last week, Gates said that U.S. military officers in Baghdad were planning to brief reporters on what is known about Iranian involvement in Iraq but that he and other senior administration officials had intervened to delay the briefing in order to assure that the information provided was accurate. Speaking to reporters at a defense ministers conference here, Gates said Friday, "I don't think there was surprise that the Iranians were actually involved, I think there was surprise we actually picked up some." He and other U.S. officials have said for some time that Iranians, and possibly the government of Iran, have been providing weapons technology, and possibly some explosives to Iraqi insurgents. The improvised explosive devices (IEDs) have been a leading killer of U.S. forces in Iraq, where more than 3,000 servicemen and women have died in the nearly four-year-old war. Gates, who is attending his first NATO defense ministers meeting, said Iran is "very much involved in providing either the technology or the weapons themselves for these explosively formed projectiles. Now they don't represent a big percentage of the IED attacks but they're extremely lethal." Gates said the raids combined with the movement of an additional U.S. aircraft carrier into the Persian Gulf have created a stir, but said the Bush administration has no intention of attacking Iran. Meanwhile, the defense secretary has been getting a lukewarm response here to his plea for allies to send more troops and aid for a spring offensive in Afghanistan. Gates said the U.S. made no additional commitments for more troops of its own. He recently extended the tour of a brigade in Afghanistan, where the U.S. has 27,000 troops - the most since the war began in 2001. U.S. and NATO military leaders in recent months have repeatedly called on alliance members to send reinforcements and lift restrictions on where their troops can serve. On Thursday, Gates secured smaller offers from some nations, but he met resistance from key allies. France and Germany are questioning the wisdom of sending more soldiers, while Spain, Italy and Turkey have also been wary of providing more troops. "When the Russians were in Afghanistan, they had 100,000 soldiers there and they did not win," German Defense Minister Franz Josef Jung told reporters. The meeting in southern Spain did produce some offers, however. Lithuania, which already has 130 troops in Afghanistan, offered to send an unspecified number of special forces, helping to fill a key shortfall. Germany says it will provide six Tornado reconnaissance jets but not significantly augment its 3,000 troops in the north. The Italian government said it would send a much-needed transport plane and some unmanned surveillance aircraft, but it is struggling to secure parliamentary backing for the finances needed to maintain a contingent of 1,950. Spain also said it would send four unmanned planes and more instructors to help the Afghan army. Gates said that after nearly five years at war with the Taliban, this spring will be critical because it could give the people of the country more hope. "Each spring for the last several years, the Taliban have been more aggressive and there has been an increasing level of violence," he said. "There is a consensus on the part of the ministers that it is important that this year we knock the Taliban back." The end of winter has traditionally brought an upsurge in attacks by Taliban militants in Afghanistan. U.S. commanders have already predicted that this spring will be even more violent than last year, when a record number of attacks included nearly 140 suicide bombings. About 15,000 of the American troops are serving in the NATO-led force, which now totals about 36,000, while the other 12,000 are special operations forces or are training Afghan troops.

Robert Gates today announced that we know for a fact that Iran is arming the Iraqi insurgents with weapons, Explosives, Detonaters, and Iranian Intelligence Operatives. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/01/14/niraq114.xml http://abcnews.go.com/International/IraqCoverage/story?id=2688501 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- U.S. And Iran Fighting Proxy War In Iraq WASHINGTON, Jan. 29, 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (CBS/AP) Outright war between the United States and Iran remains only a remote possibility, but the two countries already are fighting a proxy war inside Iraq, reports CBS News national security correspondent David Martin. U.S. officials tell CBS News that serial numbers on parts used to make advanced explosive devices powerful enough to breach the armor on an American tank have been traced directly back to Iran. These officials also say rocket-propelled grenade launchers and assault rifles found in Iraq bear Iranian factory markings. Last May, a British helicopter was shot down by an anti-aircraft missile supplied by Iran. Middle East expert Jon Alterman says Iran's strategy is paying off. "What they would like is a country that is in some low level of turmoil, where they have lots of influence with all the major political players," Alterman tells Martin. "That's exactly the direction that Iraq is headed." Raids on Iranian offices in Iraq have turned up computer discs which contain inventories of small arms Iran has provided to Shiite militias and records of payments made to key militia members, adds Martin. Earlier Monday, President Bush said that "we will respond firmly" if Tehran escalates its military actions in Iraq and threatens American forces or Iraqi citizens. Mr. Bush's warning was the latest move in a bitter and increasingly public standoff between the United States and Iran. The White House expressed skepticism about Iran's plans to greatly expand its economic and military ties with Iraq. The United States has accused Iran of supporting terrorism in Iraq and supplying weapons to kill American forces. "If Iran escalates its military actions in Iraq to the detriment of our troops and — or innocent Iraqi people, we will respond firmly," Mr. Bush said in an interview with National Public Radio. The president's comments reinforced earlier statements from the White House. "If Iran wants to quit playing a destructive role in the affairs of Iraq and wants to play a constructive role, we would certainly welcome that," National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe said. But, he said, "We've seen little evidence to date (of constructive activities) and frankly all we have seen is evidence to the contrary." Sharply at odds over Iran's suspected nuclear weapons program, Washington and Tehran are arguing increasingly about Iraq. American troops in Iraq have been authorized to kill or capture Iranian agents deemed to be a threat. "If you're in Iraq and trying to kill our troops, then you should consider yourself a target," Defense Secretary Robert Gates said last week. Iran's plans in Iraq were outlined by Iranian Ambassador Hassan Kazemi Qumi in an interview with The New York Times. He said Iran was prepared to offer Iraqi government forces training, equipment and advisers for what he called "the security fight," the newspaper reported. He said that in the economic area, Iran was ready to assume major responsibility for the reconstruction of Iraq. "We have experience of reconstruction after war," the ambassador said, referring to the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s. "We are ready to transfer this experience in terms of reconstruction to the Iraqis." Johndroe said the Bush administration was looking at what the ambassador had to say. The White House says there has been growing evidence over the last several months that Iran is supporting terrorists inside Iraq and is a major supplier of bombs and other weapons used to target U.S. forces. In recent weeks, U.S. forces have detained a number of Iranian agents in Iraq. "It makes sense that if somebody is trying to harm our troops or stop us from achieving our goal, or killing innocent citizens in Iraq, that we will stop them," Mr. Bush said on Friday.

depending on what rig you have, you may just want to send it to me to get rid of it...

Sounds like the dog was physically abused and is terrified...it will take time. I HATE animal abusers...they should die.

Just drink what you like, and quit paying pissy frenchmen will ya?