warpedskydiver

You are correct Sir

the US Constitution affirms that our rights are endowed by our creator and therefore are inalieble. Now our foul state has determined that the US Constitution is a piece off paper to which politicians wipe thier collective asses with. It is unconstitutional to pass a law that violates the Bill of Rights

Look a baby one!!! how cute... but then you have to feed it when it grows up

A bottle or a can? Long Neck Bottle!!!

Sorry about calling you Jamille... I misread or wasn't paying much attention so I posted it thinking it was Skyrad.

People told me my 750 was too mych for a first bike, but I only layed it down once - thanks to my dad and his over zealous use of armour all on the tires.Quote Armor All belongs nowhere near anything on a motorcycle...wow I thought those were urban legends.

Where in your constitution does it say that you have a right to tax-free bullets? They are already taxed Jamille, this is just a case of piling on.

Geez Bill you and I agree on this one. Next thing you know dogs and cats will be mating, and someone will be able to tolerate Lucky.

Holy shit you two, that country isn't that damned big!!! If you get wet, and it tastes salty, your either in france at a bukkake or you have gone off the edge of your map and should pull a 180 degree turn

I think those shooters will just go outside the county to purchase their ammo. Sounds like a sure way to harm the states gun shops and other ammo suppliers. Yep it sure does when it is a two pronged attack: IL AWB has been proposed text follows Edit | Delete | Quote | Reply -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 95TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY State of Illinois 2007 and 2008HB0873 Introduced 2/7/2007, by Rep. Edward J. Acevedo SYNOPSIS AS INTRODUCED: 720 ILCS 5/24-1.8 new 720 ILCS 5/24-1.9 new Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that 90 days after the effective date of this amendatory Act, it is unlawful for any person within this State to knowingly manufacture, deliver, sell, purchase, or possess or cause to be manufactured, delivered, sold, purchased, or possessed a semi-automatic assault weapon, an assault weapon attachment, any .50 caliber rifle, or .50 caliber cartridge. Provides that beginning 90 days after the effective date of this amendatory Act, it is unlawful for any person within this State to knowingly manufacture, deliver, sell, purchase, or possess or cause to be manufactured, delivered, sold, purchased, or possessed a large capacity ammunition feeding device. Provides that these provisions do not apply to a person who possessed a prohibited weapon, device, or attachment before the effective date of this amendatory Act if the person has provided proof of ownership to the Department of State Police within 90 days after the effective date of this amendatory Act. Provides that on or after the effective date of this amendatory Act, such person may transfer such device only to an heir, an individual residing in another state maintaining that device in another state, or a dealer licensed as a federal firearms dealer. Specifies penalties for violations. Provides exemptions. Provides that the provisions of the Act are severable. Effective immediately. LRB095 04526 RLC 24579 b CORRECTIONAL BUDGET AND IMPACT NOTE ACT MAY APPLY FISCAL NOTE ACT MAY APPLY A BILL FOR HB0873 LRB095 04526 RLC 24579 b 1 AN ACT concerning criminal law. 2 Be it enacted by the People of the State of Illinois, 3 represented in the General Assembly: 4 Section 5. The Criminal Code of 1961 is amended by adding 5 Sections 24-1.8 and 24-1.9 as follows: 6 (720 ILCS 5/24-1.8 new) 7 Sec. 24-1.8. Manufacture, possession, delivery, sale, and 8 purchase of semi-automatic assault weapons, assault weapon 9 attachments, .50 caliber rifles, and .50 caliber cartridges. 10 (a) Definitions. In this Section: 11 (1) "Semi-automatic assault weapon" means: 12 (A) any of the firearms or types, replicas, or 13 duplicates in any caliber of the firearms, known as: 14 (i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies 15 Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models); 16 (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries 17 UZI and Galil; 18 (iii) Beretta AR-70 (SC-70); 19 (iv) Colt AR-15; 20 (v) Fabrique Nationale FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and 21 FNC; 22 (vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12; 23 (vii) Steyr AUG; HB0873 - 2 - LRB095 04526 RLC 24579 b 1 2 (viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9, and TEC-22; 3 and 4 (ix) any shotgun which contains its ammunition 5 in a revolving cylinder, such as (but not limited 6 to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12; 7 (B) a semi-automatic rifle that has an ability to 8 accept a detachable magazine and has any of the 9 following: 10 (i) a folding or telescoping stock; 11 (ii) a pistol grip or thumbhole stock; 12 (iii) a shroud that is attached to, or 13 partially or completely encircles the barrel, and 14 that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with 15 the non-trigger hand without being burned; or 16 (iv) a fixed magazine that has the capacity to 17 accept more than 10 rounds of ammunition; 18 (C) a semi-automatic pistol that has an ability to 19 accept a detachable magazine and has any of the 20 following: 21 (i) a folding, telescoping, or thumbhole 22 stock; 23 (ii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially 24 or completely encircles the barrel, and that 25 permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the 26 non-trigger hand without being burned; HB0873 - 3 - LRB095 04526 RLC 24579 b 1 (iii) an ammunition magazine that attaches to 2 the pistol outside of the pistol grip; 3 (iv) a fixed magazine that has the capacity to 4 accept more than 10 rounds of ammunition; 5 (v) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more 6 when the pistol is unloaded; or 7 (vi) a semi-automatic version of an automatic 8 firearm; 9 (D) a semi-automatic shotgun that has any of the 10 following: 11 (i) a folding or telescoping stock; 12 (ii) a pistol grip or thumbhole stock; 13 (iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 14 rounds; or 15 (iv) an ability to accept a detachable 16 magazine. "Semi-automatic assault weapon" does not 17 include: 18 (A) any firearm that: 19 (i) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever, 20 or slide action; 21 (ii) is an "unserviceable firearm" or has been 22 made permanently inoperable; or 23 (iii) is an antique firearm; 24 (B) any air rifle as defined in Section 1 of the 25 Air Rifle Act. 26 (2) "Assault weapon attachment" means any device HB0873 - 4 - LRB095 04526 RLC 24579 b 1 capable of being attached to a firearm that is specifically 2 designed for making or converting a firearm into any of the 3 firearms listed in paragraph (1) of subsection (a) of this 4 Section. 5 (3) "Antique firearm" has the meaning ascribed to it in 6 18 U.S.C. Section 921 (a)(16). 7 (4) ".50 caliber rifle" means a centerfire rifle 8 capable of firing a .50 caliber cartridge. The term does 9 not include any antique firearm as defined in 18 U.S.C. 10 Section 921 (a)(16), any shotgun including a shotgun that 11 has a rifle barrel, or a muzzle-loader used for "black 12 powder" hunting or battle re-enactments. 13 (5) ".50 caliber cartridge" means a cartridge in .50 14 BMG caliber, either by designation or actual measurement, 15 that is capable of being fired from a centerfire rifle. The 16 term ".50 caliber cartridge" does not include any 17 memorabilia or display item that is filled with a permanent 18 inert substance or that is otherwise permanently altered in 19 a manner that prevents ready modification for use as live 20 ammunition or shotgun ammunition with a caliber 21 measurement that is equal to or greater than .50 caliber. 22 (b) Except as provided in subsections (c) and (d), 90 days 23 after the effective date of this amendatory Act of the 95th 24 General Assembly, it is unlawful for any person within this 25 State to knowingly manufacture, deliver, sell, purchase, or 26 possess or cause to be manufactured, delivered, sold, HB0873 - 5 - LRB095 04526 RLC 24579 b 1 purchased, or possessed, a semi-automatic assault weapon, an 2 assault weapon attachment, any .50 caliber rifle, or .50 3 caliber cartridge. 4 (c) This Section does not apply to a person who possessed a 5 weapon or attachment prohibited by subsection (b) before the 6 effective date of this amendatory Act of the 95th General 7 Assembly, provided that the person has provided proof of 8 ownership to the Department of State Police within 90 days 9 after the effective date of this amendatory Act of the 95th 10 General Assembly as required by law. On or after the effective 11 date of this amendatory Act of the 95th General Assembly, such 12 person may transfer such weapon or attachment only to an heir, 13 an individual residing in another state maintaining that weapon 14 in another state, or a dealer licensed as a federal firearms 15 dealer under Section 923 of the federal Gun Control Act of 16 1968. 17 (d) This Section does not apply to or affect any of the 18 following: 19 (1) Peace officers as defined in Section 2-13 of this 20 Code and retired peace officers not otherwise prohibited 21 from receiving a firearm, in possession of a semi-automatic 22 assault weapon, assault weapon attachment, or .50 caliber 23 rifle transferred to the retired peace officer by his or 24 her law enforcement agency upon retirement. 25 (2) Wardens, superintendents, and keepers of prisons, 26 penitentiaries, jails, and other institutions for the HB0873 - 6 - LRB095 04526 RLC 24579 b 1 detention of persons accused or convicted of an offense. 2 (3) Members of the Armed Services or Reserve Forces of 3 the United States or the Illinois National Guard, while in 4 the performance of their official duties or while traveling 5 to or from their place of duty. 6 (4) Manufacture, transportation, or sale of weapons, 7 attachments, or ammunition to persons authorized under 8 subdivisions (1) through (3) of this subsection to possess 9 those items. 10 (5) Possession of a semi-automatic assault weapon, an 11 assault weapon attachment, a .50 caliber rifle, or a .50 12 caliber cartridge at events taking place at the World 13 Shooting and Recreational Complex at Sparta, only while 14 engaged in the legal use of the firearm or attachment, or 15 while traveling to or from this location if the items are 16 broken down in a non-functioning state, or are not 17 immediately accessible, or are unloaded and enclosed in a 18 case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other 19 container. 20 (6) Possession of any firearm if that firearm is 21 sanctioned by the International Olympic Committee and by 22 USA Shooting, the national governing body for 23 international shooting competition in the United States, 24 but only when the firearm is in the actual possession of an 25 Olympic target shooting competitor or target shooting 26 coach for the purpose of storage, transporting to and from HB0873 - 7 - LRB095 04526 RLC 24579 b 1 Olympic target shooting practice or events if the firearm 2 is broken down in a non-functioning state, is not 3 immediately accessible, or is unloaded and enclosed in a 4 case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other 5 container, and when the Olympic target shooting competitor 6 or target shooting coach is engaging in those practices or 7 events. For the purposes of this paragraph (6), "firearm" 8 is defined in Section 1.1 of the Firearm Owners 9 Identification Card Act. 10 (7) Possession of a semi-automatic assault weapon, an 11 assault weapon attachment, a .50 caliber rifle, or a .50 12 caliber cartridge only for a hunting use expressly 13 permitted under the Wildlife Code, or while traveling to or 14 from a location authorized for such hunting use under the 15 Wildlife Code if the items are broken down in a 16 non-functioning state, or are not immediately accessible, 17 or are unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying 18 box, shipping box, or other container. 19 (8) Manufacture, transportation, possession, sale, or 20 rental of blank-firing semi-automatic assault weapons and 21 .50 caliber rifles or the weapons respective attachments to 22 persons authorized or permitted, or both authorized and 23 permitted to acquire and possess such weapons for the 24 purposes of rental for use solely as props for a motion 25 picture, television, or video production or entertainment 26 event. HB0873 - 8 - LRB095 04526 RLC 24579 b 1 (e) Sentence. 2 (1) A person who knowingly manufactures, delivers, 3 sells, purchases, or possesses or causes to be 4 manufactured, delivered, sold, purchased, or possessed a 5 semi-automatic assault weapon in violation of this Section 6 commits a Class 3 felony for a first violation and a Class 7 2 felony for a second or subsequent violation or for the 8 possession or delivery of 2 or more of these weapons at the 9 same time. 10 (2) A person who knowingly manufactures, delivers, 11 sells, purchases, or possesses or causes to be 12 manufactured, delivered, sold, purchased, or possessed in 13 violation of this Section an assault weapon attachment 14 commits a Class 4 felony for a first violation and a Class 15 3 felony for a second or subsequent violation. 16 (3) A person who knowingly manufactures, delivers, 17 sells, purchases, or possesses or causes to be 18 manufactured, delivered, sold, purchased, or possessed in 19 violation of this Section a .50 caliber rifle commits a 20 Class 3 felony for a first violation and a Class 2 felony 21 for a second or subsequent violation or for the possession 22 or delivery of 2 or more of these weapons at the same time. 23 (4) A person who knowingly manufactures, delivers, 24 sells, purchases, or possesses or causes to be 25 manufactured, delivered, sold, purchased, or possessed in 26 violation of this Section a .50 caliber cartridge commits a HB0873 - 9 - LRB095 04526 RLC 24579 b 1 Class A misdemeanor. 2 (720 ILCS 5/24-1.9 new) 3 Sec. 24-1.9. Manufacture, possession, delivery, sale, and 4 purchase of large capacity ammunition feeding devices. 5 (a) As used in this Section: 6 "Large capacity ammunition feeding device" means: 7 (1) a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar 8 device that has a capacity of, or that can be readily 9 restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of 10 ammunition; or 11 (2) any combination of parts from which a device 12 described in paragraph (1) can be assembled. 13 "Large capacity ammunition feeding device" does not 14 include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and 15 capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition 16 or any device that has been made permanently inoperable. 17 (b) Except as provided in subsections (c) and (d), it is 18 unlawful for any person within this State, beginning 90 days 19 after the effective date of this amendatory Act of the 95th 20 General Assembly, to knowingly manufacture, deliver, sell, 21 purchase, or possess or cause to be manufactured, delivered, 22 sold, purchased, or possessed, a large capacity ammunition 23 feeding device. 24 (c) This Section does not apply to a person who possessed a 25 device prohibited by subsection (b) before the effective date HB0873 - 10 - LRB095 04526 RLC 24579 b 1 of this amendatory Act of the 95th General Assembly, provided 2 that the person has provided proof of ownership to the 3 Department of State Police within 90 days after the effective 4 date of this amendatory Act of the 95th General Assembly as 5 required by law. On or after the effective date of this 6 amendatory Act of the 95th General Assembly, such person may 7 transfer such device only to an heir, an individual residing in 8 another state maintaining that device in another state, or a 9 dealer licensed as a federal firearms dealer under Section 923 10 of the federal Gun Control Act of 1968. 11 (d) This Section does not apply to or affect any of the 12 following: 13 (1) Peace officers as defined in Section 2-13 of this 14 Code and retired peace officers not otherwise prohibited 15 from receiving a firearm, in possession of a large capacity 16 ammunition feeding device transferred to the retired peace 17 officer by his or her law enforcement agency upon 18 retirement. 19 (2) Wardens, superintendents, and keepers of prisons, 20 penitentiaries, jails, and other institutions for the 21 detention of persons accused or convicted of an offense. 22 (3) Members of the Armed Services or Reserve Forces of 23 the United States or the Illinois National Guard, while in 24 the performance of their official duties or while traveling 25 to or from their place of duty. 26 (4) Manufacture, transportation, or sale of large HB0873 - 11 - LRB095 04526 RLC 24579 b 1 capacity ammunition feeding devices to persons authorized 2 under subdivisions (1) through (3) of this subsection to 3 possess those items. 4 (5) Possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding 5 device at events taking place at the World Shooting and 6 Recreational Complex at Sparta, only while engaged in the 7 legal use of the device, or while traveling to or from this 8 location if the items are broken down in a non-functioning 9 state, or are not immediately accessible, or are unloaded 10 and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, 11 or other container. 12 (6) Possession of any large capacity ammunition 13 feeding device if that large capacity ammunition feeding 14 device is sanctioned by the International Olympic 15 Committee and by USA Shooting, the national governing body 16 for international shooting competition in the United 17 States, but only when the large capacity ammunition feeding 18 device is in the actual possession of an Olympic target 19 shooting competitor or target shooting coach for the 20 purpose of storage, transporting to and from Olympic target 21 shooting practice or events if the device is broken down in 22 a non-functioning state, is not immediately accessible, or 23 is unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, 24 shipping box, or other container, and when the Olympic 25 target shooting competitor or target shooting coach is 26 engaging in those practices or events. HB0873 - 12 - LRB095 04526 RLC 24579 b 1 (7) Possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding 2 device only for a hunting use expressly permitted under the 3 Wildlife Code, or while traveling to or from a location 4 authorized for such hunting use under the Wildlife Code if 5 the items are broken down in a non-functioning state, or 6 are not immediately accessible, or are unloaded and 7 enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or 8 other container. 9 (e) Sentence. A person who knowingly manufactures, 10 delivers, sells, purchases, or possesses or causes to be 11 manufactured, delivered, sold, purchased, or possessed in 12 violation of this Section a large capacity ammunition feeding 13 device capable of holding more than 17 rounds of ammunition 14 commits a Class 3 felony for a first violation and a Class 2 15 felony for a second or subsequent violation or for possession 16 or delivery of 2 or more of these devices at the same time. A 17 person who knowingly manufactures, delivers, sells, purchases, 18 or possesses or causes to be manufactured, delivered, sold, 19 purchased, or possessed in violation of this Section a large 20 capacity ammunition feeding device capable of holding more than 21 10 rounds but not more than 17 rounds of ammunition commits a 22 Class 4 felony for a first violation and a Class 3 felony for a 23 second or subsequent violation or for possession or delivery of 24 more than one of these devices at the same time. 25 Section 97. Severability. The provisions of this Act are HB0873 - 13 - LRB095 04526 RLC 24579 b 1 severable under Section 1.31 of the Statute on Statutes. 2 Section 99. Effective date. This Act takes effect upon 3 becoming law.

I will try and find the news from last years meeting. I hope I can find the actual info and not some crappy ass coverage of it by the SChitcago media

Last year the Illinois Firearm Manufacturers went to the governor with studies and real world data on how much Illinoistan stands to lose, as well as the fact that this law has no constitutional merit.

Ah so it was your mistake!!!! damn it John then fix it.

Hey I saw them in concert once

John your response was dissapointing to me and shows you too have much to learn. I expected better of a Liberatarian. BTW glad you didn't get killed doing that 70s disco dive...damned dance moves

there

Fido, the other pink meat....

I rode out in AZ last time there and we took a guy with us that we worked with... He kept complaining that his ATV was a slug because of his weight, so he got the 450cc one and I rode the 250cc Then we saw him fly off the side and down 400 feet end over end through the rocks and cactii. He healed eventually.

Get a 4 wheel ATV much more useful and still great fun BTW this is not about you: I see guys in their 40's getting what may be their first bike and they go for a huge harley or a hayabusa. Geez do we put AFP 3 students out on a tiny ass canopy??? ORGAN DONORS are abundant...you don't need to be one in a hurry.

Just remember to stop accelerating after you hit the throttle stop. Be careful ok?

Get a Yamahop with knobby tires!!!

Well stated. Thanks John

Why on earth would I harm a dog?

Billions, did you read the post by Steve of Rock River Arms? Oh and that's besides the tens of thousands of jobs lost

So you are saying that you are okay with being bullied by other countries just because we have more $$$ ???? It is the same as carrying "mugger money" You know that is the only way to stop an aggressor is to give in, and let them have whatever they ask for.