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Duane was also investigated and eliminated. I was actually trying to get Jo to see how ridiculous it is to ask people here to "prove" Duane wasn't Cooper, but I guess she can't see the parallel. Or won't. Whatever. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

um, i'm sure someone must have posted links to this site, but i don't recall it. http://cooper71.com/ it's not fantastically organised - the "categories" is in alphabetical rather than logocal order - but has a number of links to suspects and other stuff. eg the one on mayfield has a pic (when he was much older unfortunately) vs the cooper sketch as well as the various TV segments (the IE i referred to before appears to be Inside Edition) http://cooper71.com/?cat=13 There are similar pages for Duane, Christiansen, Gosset and a couple of others as well as the cash, etc. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

georger, not sure about all the issues you raise; it is definitely a fact that Mayfield has a criminal record however. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

A post by Safe from the old thread. I reproduced it in its entirety. Since no one was willing to make a post regarding Mayfield and why he may have been Cooper, I'll do it myself. 1. He called the FBI the night Norjack was born. Mayfield disputed this and said the FBI sought him out and he spoke with various agents at least 3 times. Some criminals have wanted to be part of the efforts to solve the very crime they committed. Perhaps Mayfield followed the same pattern or perhaps he purposely called the FBI to create an alibi. The person who suggested that maybe it was a confederate of Mayfield who called had a good idea, however, if this was the case, the confederate might have wanted to call while Mayfield was still in the air as to make his alibi even more rock solid. The call in question was placed between 90 & 120 minutes following the jump (9:41 to 10:11 pm). 2. Mayfied WAS a military paratrooper before he became a world class skydiver. He was a world class skydiver at the time of the crime. 3. Mayfield lived very close to PDX in Nov 71. He could have walked to the airport without using a taxicab, bus, or vehicle. 4. Allegedly Mayfield was broke and in finanical ruin at the time of the crime. This aspect has not been explained. 5. From what I've heard, Mayfield and some partners purchased a sizable property in 1972 to run a business out of. Assuming #4 is correct, this would tend to infer that his partners did not have the cash for the downpayment (or was it purchased outright?) to get this business up and running. 6. Mayfield has been convicted of armed robbery & flying a stolen plane across state lines. 7. At least 12 people wanting to help the FBI with leads called the FBI and told them to look into Mayfield because they felt he had the expertise and the criminal intent to pull it off. 8. He allegedly lied about his whereabouts the night of the crime. However we haven't heard anything further about this. 9. A 1974 photo of Mayfield matches the Shaffner sketch of 1988, complete with strong widows peak (or male patterned baldness as one DZ poster described it). Since this post was in response to the various people, myself included, to please outline the reasons why DD feels 99% confident that Mayfield was Cooper, I have some questions of my own... 1. This has been researched thoroughly? Then please post some information regarding the property purchase. What were the terms of sale? Who financed it? What partners, if any, were involved? Was there any other type of loan that Mayfield obtained during this time (such as SBA)? 2. Please post the 1974 picture. 3. Please explain the alibi that he lied about. 4. Please give some reasoning behind the basis of his dire straights in 1971... for example, eye witness says he was evicted, there's a bankruptcy on his record in 71, he sold off his possessions in 71, something. 5. Please post anything I've omitted or have errored. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

Wonder what it was? Some jumpers thought Ted was not following safe practices for training student skydivers. He had a few fatalities as I recall. 377 Bruce, thanks for all that feedback. 377, there was stuff on Mayfield on the old thread... I was the one who dug up the negligent homicide stuff there, but IIRC that came after Cooper. What Bruce said about M & H's prior interaction does ring a bell. It may be on the old thread too, or I may have read that on one of the other forums. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

I have spoke with Ted Mayfield in the past on several occassions and he is not Cooper. These guys convinced him that there was money to be made with a book and a movie. He was also told no one would prosecute Cooper after all of these yr. which all of you know is NOT true. Mayfield is a good sport, but when all of this started to play on his personal life he pulled out. Mayfield likes to play games, but not if it engangers his enjoyment of life and his freedom... I would like to meet him in person. And like Guru - he will tell you "I am not Cooper". Um, where's the proof Jo? He certainly wouldn't be the first criminal to deny a crime. Just because you say he isn't, and he says he isn't, doesn't count as proof. Still waiting. Thanks. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

You always confuse me when you say that like it's a bad thing. To me it shows an open mind and attempts to actually find the truth, rather than latching onto a suspect and finding all sorts of convoluted and bizarre ways to try make facts fit the theory. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

Hey Jo, you don't like the Mayfield theory. Tell you what - why don't you prove to us that mayfield wasn't Cooper? You keep challenging others to prove Duane wasn't Cooper, so presumably you will find it easy to prove Mayfield wasn't. When you've done that, move on to Braden please. I look forward to seeing your results. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

more (dunno what IE is, some TV show on it I gather) OK, i just ran out of steam... somewhere out there is the theory H was in on it, i'll find it another evening. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

some extracts. none of this has proof attached from what i can see but, hey, why break the pattern? (yes Jo they were writing a book, but happy to admit it) they also came to a conclusion some here might agree with: but the book people were not the ones who thought H was involved - i evidently got a couple of Mayfield theories mixed up in my memory - this is the same people above, in response to a suggestion H was in on it: oooh, this post must be as long as ..... some other people's i'll break for a bit (but wait... there's more....) Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

this was the page that came up, you can go down, previous, next etc (if you don't gave your fill of cooper theories just from here) http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49742 I'll post some more details later but... just saw a jet has been hijacked in mexico Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

There was a fair bit of discussion of it on one of the other Cooper forums. I may be wrong but I think one of the guys was on here for a while - the guy from the old thread who had some kind of illness and sadly passed away. I'll see if i can find the posts I am referring to - it was a long time ago and i can't even remember which website it was on. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

Re Mayfield convincing the FBI...The Mayfield story goes .... H provided him with an alibi. He knew H from "before". The theory was that he had something on H. I think it was Jerry who dissed this idea - said H was too honest. I can't remember all the details of the Mayfied theory, but apparently it wasn't long after the hijacking that he bought ...something (a DZ, an airfield, an airplane, can't remember what but pretty sure it was something to do with a plane or skydiving). Did I just say "airplane"? Been hanging around you Americans too long Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

Jeesh, guys, how many times do I have to tell you? I am not D B Cooper. I may have been at one time but I am not now. Hmmm..let's see, your repeated denials arouse suspicion, so your response is ...another denial?! That proves you are. (Hey, I can do this twisted logic thing too). Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

Some people still think Mayfield is the most likely. Remember we had one or two of them on the old thread... As for Guru, his repeated denials make me suspicious Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

Yes of course. The first coloured contacts it was very easy to make light eyes appear darker. It was more difficult to make dark eyes appear light, I think that only began to be successfully (realistically) done later in the 70s or even the early 80s. Edited to add - I see you were questioning whether coloured contacts were available then. Perhaps you should read what other people post sometimes, more than one post has found ...EVIDENCE!!! ... that they were already commercially available by then. I read all of the posts, but do not have the search ablilities some of you do to go back and find them - easier to test your memory - I remembered the conversations, but even then I didn't think they were widely available. ? we all have the same search function here. Anyway I trust Snow's post above yours has helped clarify the matter. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

Yes of course. The first coloured contacts it was very easy to make light eyes appear darker. It was more difficult to make dark eyes appear light, I think that only began to be successfully (realistically) done later in the 70s or even the early 80s. Edited to add - I see you were questioning whether coloured contacts were available then. Perhaps you should read what other people post sometimes, more than one post has found ...EVIDENCE!!! ... that they were already commercially available by then. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

Huh? Coincidences are not proof. So you are now admitting you don't have a shred of real evidence, just a list of "coincidences"... how can you "verify" a coincidence? Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

At this stage, I think it is more likely to be solved by chance than anything else... Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

Bruce - thanks. Re the comment about Larry Carr and glory - well, it is pretty much what we have said here - how famous would the Fed who solved the case be! - and if nothing else it tells me Larry would not dismiss a good suspect for shaky reasons. 377 - I wear contacts and no, do not need a mirror. However, someone who was not used to wearing them regularly, might. In any case if you wanted to take them out without being conspicuous about it then out of sight in the lavatory makes sense. Question: why do Americans always call it "the bathroom" even when it doesn't have a bath (or even shower) in it? Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

Incidentally for interest here is another story about a CIA operative from Laos/Thailan who ended up in Africa in the 60s, including some stuff about the CIA operations in Congo, and a couple of Cuban pilots to boot. Links to some pics, including T28s for 377. It's actually about a plane crash, and I thought this bit was "nice" -- https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/winter99-00/art2.html Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

Probably, but not necessarily - as we know colored contacr lenses were available. Any leap of faith requiring Braden to obtain these is a lot less than those required to make Weber fit the mould!! Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

Skydive Cape Town is open 7 days a week. www.skydivecapetown.za.net Robertson is open weekends, www.skydive.co.za Walker Bay is open weekends but you need a B licence. The other western cape dropzones are probably too far for a daytrip from CT. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

Yeah, I get the picture. Well, there are two pictures really but they both come down to pretty much the same thing: 1) clearly, not all (and maybe none) of these people could have been Cooper. You are each waiting for other's "evidence" to try prove your own pet theory. This actually means none of you have any evidence of your own that really seals your case. 2) but Jo really the more obvious picture is YOU HAVE NO PROOF. You claim you will present it when "it has been verified". Apart from the fact that you have been making similar claims for years, IF IT HAS NOT BEEN VERIFIED IT IS NOT PROOF. Anyone want to take a bet with me that we will never see the "verification" of this "evidence", just another few thousand posts of teases, conjectures and leaps of logic? ie picture 1 or picture 2 both mean the same thing: NO PROOF Duane was Weber. Nothing. Nada. Nyet. Niks. Nein. etc. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

Prove it Jo. Show us the evidence you claim to have. It is a simple request. Your credibility suffers greatly when you make a big claim, promise to reveal proof and then offer endless excuses why you can't do it. If you could actually prove Duane was Cooper then Jerry's tactics and confrontations shouldn't matter one bit to you. 377 +1 Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.