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What We Think Happened: We'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he landed. We like to think that immediately after, he was accosted by a group of mountain men who did indescribable things to him. They then took his money, moved to Seattle and opened the first Starbucks. from http://www.cracked.com/article_16501_6-people-who-just-fucking-disappeared.html (warning for those of you who may be offended by suchlike: some gratuitous profanity on this site) Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

We never knew the reason for the lights off, but it fits perfectly with the experience of a skydiver doing a night jump re the night vision issue. So some might look at that and say: he'd done that before. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

btw re the placard - i thought somewhere it had been proved that it did in fact come from cooper's 727? 2 disappeared bodies - that we know of. And 377, how do you know that the mafia don't, in fact, use the columbia?! Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

I remember being told once that camo is not (as most people think) to try make you 'blend' with your surrounds, but because the eye is trained to see forms and the haphazard patterns on the camo effectively break up the 'expected' forms. I'm sure this can be explained much better, but hopefully you understand what i mean! Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

This is very interesting Snow; they found the wreckage, the plane, the log book. Now...(assuming it wasn't another case like that one recently where the guy put the plane on autopilot then jumped out, to fake his death) this is an example of how difficult it might be to find a body even when the search area is reasonably well defined. River drift? Crawfish? Other predators? Is there a Bermuda Triangle effect over the Columbia??! Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

ditto! Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

i feel a newfound sense of freedom. Back to self-filtering of certain posters. Much nicer

Interesting how attempts are made to 'lure' people back into previous patterns by someone who previously claimed to be a victim. But I much prefer the current format

Shana Tova to those of you who celebrate it! May you have a sweet new year. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

Out of curiosity, why did he have that type of signature? Was he a child, or have literacy issues, or English-language issues, or a disability? - Or just a personal preference? Or perhaps an artist, like an ex of mine whose little drawing when described out loud sounded like his name

There must be constant pressure on Jo. When I, Orange and Jerry back off, Snow rushes in to fill the vacuum. Georger could model it with an equation. It is a closed loop system. 377 I was wondering about that myself Ah well. At least Georger hasn't succumbed

no idea what the figure was by the end of 1971, or how long a report stays 'active' for. for sure a lot more people are found than remain missing, but the outstanding number is still very high: And then, equally relevant, is the "unreported missing" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreported_missing: Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

See, now, if Ckret hadn't been run out of Dodge we could ask him stuff. I bet there were hundreds, at least, of missing person reports of men of approximately the right age filed in the US in the weeks after the hijacking. Would they all have been looked at as potential Coopers, especially if they were from way further afield and had no connection to skydiving? What if Cooper was Canadian? What if Cooper was based in Asia? (or Belgium, or Africa or wherever) How many people have just run from debt and responsibility and disappeared - if Cooper was in say financial trouble, people might just have assumed he'd done a runner and maybe not even bother reporting him. Example: "So, where's that no-good husband of yours?" "well, i know we were fighting a lot but I didn't really think he'd up and leave like he threatened to... ah well, good riddance" "you gonna be able to pay your rent?" "well he wasn't working, i was paying it all anyway. at least we don't have kids, no reason to ever need to look for that no-good rascal" ... so 377 while I do see your point, I also think it would not necessarily be the case that a missing persons report would lead to Cooper, or indeed that one would even necessarily have been filed. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

Ladies' room, as I suspect you well know. Surprising for an American, you got " Thomas's " !right Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

SSSSSHHHHHH Snow, aw c'mon, we have managed to keep the lighter conspiracy a secret for almost 38 years now. This has taken a great effort on the part of very many people throughout the FBI, CIA, paid-off journalists, SOG and SF operatives, local police forces, and various governments. We have had to destroy some evidence, burn (ahem) other evidence, lose yet more; whisk witnesses away to far-off climes where no-one could track them down; and spent a long time surfing the internet to ensure our crack team of cyber-operatives removed every publicly available picture of lighters. I beg of you, please, please, don't ruin it all now in the name of some fanciful notion called "the truth"... ------------- PS Errol, I gave up on the grammar on this website a while ago, but nice to see you trying

I know Jerry, be strong Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

2 months... ok, let's try! as of 16 sept! (377?) Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

Yes I did assume it was bought in the US. There were still a lot more JCPenney stores there than anyone else so probability is ..but you are right, of course. It could have been bought in Belgium, assuming the ties were also shipped there. You're American, in Belgium, looking to buy a tie. Where do you go? A store name you recognise. It makes perfect sense. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

I thought those were just "for interest" posts. Were you saying you think the Cooper tie may have been bought there? How globalised was the store-brand tie trade in those days? Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

I agree with Bruce on this (although not with this reasons why). However incompetent and bungling the FBI may have been along the way, I can't help thinking that if they had stumbled across Cooper, they would have realised it. I also agree, I think, that Braden is the best of the bunch so far presented to us. But Braden only came up because some dogged poster here went looking for stuff; I bet there are a few others at the very least with similar (or "better") profiles. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

Whatever you may say about Snow, he never loses his sense of humour

if you try it, i'll try it too! Jerry, will you join us? Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

All the US space flights and moon landings were faked Snow. That Houston tank was production central for most of the weightless shots. The NASA money for real space flights was funneled to the CIA. It worked out really well. Apollo 13 was scripted beautifully by some of Hollywood's best. Georger has blocked PMs from me. I was going to compliment him on his tinfoil humor. Orange sure did raise an interesting point about Mayfield allegedly going out on a dinner date with his girlfriend right in the midst of a high drama hijack in which his real time expert advice might have been vital. Sounds very odd. The benign folk hero image of Cooper ignores the bomb. I bet the crew and the FBI were worried that Cooper would set it to blow up the plane just after he exited. They had no way to know for sure if it was real or fake. So in the midst of all this high stakes drama, Mayfield says sorry, I'll be out of touch for a while, I have a hot date. Hmmm... 377 Yeah and let's not forget no-one had cellphones then!! Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

As has been mentioned a number of times, there is a picture of the actual tie and pin on the FBI website. Edited to add: OK, I see Snow has already posted this fact. (sigh) here is the link http://www.fbi.gov/page2/dec07/dbcooper123107.html it's not "close up" but enough to see the type of tie pin clearly. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.