DaVinci

So he posts numbers that show your rant to be wrong and HE posts without knowing?!?!?!?!?!

But many do.

The G20 worked fine for the last speaker....Just admit you are OK with it since we have them and she is from your party.

So they get fuel. Big deal. She didn't want to stop and she has the purse strings. Hint- what DIRECTION is it from SF to DC? See the plane might have to fly INTO the wind to get to SF, but to get to DC from SF it will have no problem. Winds are funny like that, they hurt going into but help going with....Or is she only going to fly from DC to SF and never go back to DC?

When you add in the others abuses YES. One drop does not sink a ship, but several do. I think it is silly how you have such strong opinions and feel the need to argue them over something you do not seem to think effects you. I think it does effect me. Waste is waste and once you ignore it, it breeds. Give her the tools she needs, not the toys she wants. Allow her the SAME as the last guy, not add waste to accomplish the same mission. I have no issue with her having the G20. The last speaker had it, and it will handle her mission needs.

VP is second in command. There have been times we have gone to the VP, not once have we gotten to the third in line. Also, the speakers needs can be met with the G20...just like Hasterts were. As for the First Lady. Well you could have a point, but we are not talking about the first lady. We are talking about the speaker and the past speakers. Did you bitch about Hillary getting AF2? I didn't and I don't bitch about Laura getting AF2 either. Yes, but I would have bitched about Hastert getting a C32 as well.

I pay US taxes, you don't.

Oh sorry, I was not aware you were a pilot in the USAF. IFR reserves are 45 min after your alternate field. Winds are normally from the west to the east due to the jet stream. The G20 has a range of 3698nm. DC to SF is 2438 miles. 1260 miles reserve. Swing and a miss. Just admit you are OK with it since it is a Democrat.

The smaller plane can fly non-stop. Distance from DC to San Fran is 2438 miles. The range of the G20 is 3698nm and 4220nm on the long range model. Now there are only 2 G20's and 4 C32's. I would not let her family travel even on the bigger plane. Ya think one reason small things get big is due to people with little to nothing at stake piping in? You are in Canada right? How does the Speakers plane have ANYTHING to do with you?

Again, you can't debate, so you insult. You clearly have no proplem with someone from your favorite party wasting things. And never answere whay she needs a bigger plane than the last speaker, or why she needs to carry more people. You seem to think it is fine just since the planes exist. I would rather use assets to fit the need not 'just cause we have it'. Or 'I want one'.

Snow didn't get into the argument, but YOU did. One speaker get more than the past one no matter what party they are from.

I would be fine with ANY VP or first lady getting a C32. With you it is all about the party they are from.

I see you can't stay on topic, so you insult.

No. One speaker was given a jet to use. Another speaker wants a bigger jet and to carry more people than the first speaker was allowed. I am fine with Pelosi getting the SAME type of plane and being allowed to carry the SAME type and amount of people. I am not OK with her getting a bigger plane and being allowed to carry people Hastert was not allowed. See fair would be...Same plane same people. I have no issue with that at all. You don't seem to have an issue with her spending and getting more than Hastert. Woudl you feel the same if the new speaker was Republican?

Yes, but not nation before all others. I support my parents. If then get to the point they need more care, then I will move them to my house. I don't expect you to take care of my parents. Also, this is just taking one program and turning it into another. It is not like they are being left to starve.

Care to debate the same things, And not try to change things? Why should one Speaker get something another Speaker was not allowed? Please, try to stay on topic Speaker to Speaker, not Speaker to First Lady.

We are comparing a speaker of the house to a speaker of the house. Not a speaker to the first lady. If Hastert had wanted a bigger plane I would not have agreed to that either. Care to discuss the topic and not try to drag non-related issues in? Why should Pelosi get something denied to Hastert?

On this I agree. But you are making some claims you cannot back. Taking them off of this program and putting them on another is not writting them off to die. That was an attack on him. Wanting to remove a program and replace it with another is not being evil. As for you stating that you are glad you got AIDS....I fail to see how you can see that as a good thing. But maybe you do. I think most people would see it as a bad thing.

Nonsense, for the painter it is great publicity. The singer seems to be acting like a twit IMO. If the guy's name is Keith Urban, then the singer has no right to take the site.

She should get the same sized plane Hastert got and have the same rights Hastert had. No more, no less. I do not see why she should be allowed to carry people Hastert was not allowed to carry. I do not think having to stop for fuel is a valid reason for getting a bigger plane that uses more fuel. And the next speaker, should not be allowed a bigger plane either.

Your link shows a guy saying how kids are getting in trouble for using it for college level classes. But you said " quite a few of our RIGHTWINGNUTS have denigrated its use as not being allowed because it is NOT authoritative " Another prime example of you exagerating the hell out of something so it fits your agenda. Though it can be usefull and I have used it to read another example. I don't take it as "fact" and I would never cite it in a paper. Most of my instructors will flat out tell you not to cite it, or they will deduct points. Yet when he does take points they seemed shocked since most thought it was "fact".

I just do not see much before the end of the Civil war for clear reasons. I agree that blacks have added tons of value to America and that it should be told. I am just not sure about allowing one group to have organizations, but not other groups.

A swing and a miss! We don't say that, we say that they supported it. They could have said no, but they didn't. Bush lead the Country to war, but "Kerry and his buddies" let him.

I think that is in the most part due to....And please don't take this wrong....For a large portion of American history blacks were not making that much history. Most textbooks only really started taking about blacks as history makers in the US about the Civil War. Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth, Dougless and his work in education, Later it exploded with Dr. King, Rosa Parks and the equal rights movement. One of my heros is George Washinton Carver. And I went WAY out of my way to meet the Tuskegee Airmen. Blacks have the United Nego College Fund. What would happen if there was a United White College Fund? http://media.www.thebatt.com/media/storage/paper657/news/2003/03/04/Opinion/Funding.White.Education-513994.shtml?sourcedomain=www.thebatt.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com "Coday is taking the much-needed step of calling attention to the idea that black-only groups and scholarships are acceptable, whereas the same kinds of "white" activities would be labeled racist in today's society. "If I were to have a white students' association or host a Miss White Lubbock pageant, people would say I was racist," And he is correct. He would be called racist even if he is doing the SAME thing. Why would you need a Black Miss USA? And how would that same thing not apply to a White Miss USA?

Sorry If you re-read what I wrote, I did not say YOU. I said, "mean how some of *your guys* keep saying how America should ban guns like you did?" I did not mean to imply you, I meant to imply some of your countrymen. Unless you disagree that some of your countrymen think that.