DaVinci

It has to be a cost/worth balance. BMW's are considered "prime" cars and for that they can charge more. I know a guy with a Diablo and he claims it is a real POS. But an oil change, new tires, and a tune up cost almost 10grand. He paid it with a smile knowing he had a "prime" car he could afford. American cars are not as reliable and cost more than the imports. I have several American cars and I have to say my next car will be an import unless Americans start to build better cars. My 2 American cars have been crap. I think it is the cost versus the return. I bought a Ford and it went into the shop in the first WEEK. My GF bought an import for about the same price and has had only one issue with it. The Leather on the seat "just looked wierd". They replaced it no hassle. The Ford dealer made me feel like a creep for taking the car back cause the check engine light came on. Americans are not building quality cars, jet they are charging a bunch for them. I don't want to buy an import, but only an idiot would continue to buy cars that cost more and are worth less.

I love how people can claim he is dumb, yet claim he mislead a country to war through tricks. He has an MBA, and is President...So I doubt he is stupid. Sure his Daddy helped get him elected. FDR got some help as well. Ya think Kennedy got to be Prez all on his own? It is how politics work. My issues with Hillary are: 1. She wants Socialized Medicine. 2. She wants to ban weapons. 3. Then there are the personal reasons such as carpet bagging to NY to get Elected after having a research firm tell her that was her best shot. But the real reasons are 1 and 2. 3. is just a bad feeling about her.

This thread shows it quite well.

I think it could be really good. About the only thing I disagree with is the UN bit. I think the UN could be important, but with events like food for oil and Darfur....Well I don't think they do squat that is good.

Why do you? It is only silly if nothing comes from it. Would you rater just start another war?

(Bilvon makes a bash of his own! But instead of going after a group, he goes after a single person!) Mine was inline with the title of the topic...."Believe it or not". That goes to show that the bashers thought one thing and were proven wrong. I just pointed that out.

Done it before, you ignore them. But I'll try again just to watch you dance them away. 1. Home ownership is the highest it has ever been 2. The DOW is at record levels. 3. Unemployment is lower than in years.

Citing is not plagiarisim...I think you never really went to school if you cannot tell the difference. Which makes it a bad reference. The problem with your BS rant is that I do not accept Wiki as a good source for ANY discussion if they are trying to prove anything. And save me your BS about "proof". You wanna live in a world where only your thoughts are good enough to be considered...Most of the rest of the world would like proof, or at least a source that has credibility.

No clearly you don't understand, or you are being obtuse, or you just can't grasp simple concepts. Wiki is not a good source since the information can be edited by anyone at anytime. It may have accurate information, or incorrect information based on who did what last. If I felt like It, I could edit the water article with bad information that might or might not get caught for days. Just because YOU like the wazoo theories on some webistes, it does not make them true.

Many wanted Bush to drop the desire for six party talks and try and talk direct with NK. As for why I didn't answer before...Ever heard of sleeping and a job? Read some here, next time do a search yourself...It took like half a second. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2510459#2510459

And the economy is doing better than before. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070214/ap_on_bi_st_ma_re/wall_street I REALLY like how you ignore any evidence that contradicts your personal opinion.

Cause it would not be true. The only reason I am having this discussion is because you and others seem to have quite a double standard. It is OK for one party to have waste, but not the other. I would prefer neither party encourages waste.

I remember when people jumped Bush's case for wanting 6 party talks. Now they want to refuse to admit it might be the only tactic that will work.

And on that same note I would not use it as "proof" to try and win an argument either.

The economy is doing better now than then...But you will never agree with the economic indicators

YOU do, but most professors disagree with you and it has been an issue in some schools. Just because you like the definitions does not mean they are accurate. And the very fact that they can be changed by ANYONE means that the data should not be used as fact. No, the thread was about how wiki is not a good reference to be a trump card, nor used for school work no matter the political leanings nor topic.

You are arguing about as much if not more than anyone else about this...Just admit you are OK with the Dems spending money, but would blow a gasket if it was a Republican.

You might want to check the results of the last election in Sweden. Seems the gov has moved right and Unions and such are not happy.

I guess you think we should get Pelosi a Concord?

Stupid anology. I am really shocked you used it. There is not a significant difference in the Aircraft.

It is not fuel waste, but COST that is my issue. If I could get to Altitude for 10 bucks with the right sized door vs 20. I would choose 10 that might climb slower. Even if I choose the 20 buck ride I would be paying for it myself, not making YOU pay for my jump. I have no issue flying the speaker around. I just want it to be done in the most economical way possible.

So she stops for gas on the way west and on the way east no problem. You think they have the plane just sit at the airport till she is ready to fly home? The planes move around quite a bit between flights carrying other VIPS.

Then it becomes an "I want", not an "I need". The other aircraft will perform the same function, just not in the same amount of style of carry as many people. I wonder how many saying she should get it would be crying if it was a Republican and claiming excess waste?

Why does non stop trump economy? Also why should she be allowed to carry more people than the last speaker? Just cause she has a bigger plane?

Not to argue with a physic prof about physics... Would you accept wikipedia as a valid source for your class?