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The ultimate clue, Dan Cooper comic book http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.munciefreepress.com/files/u1/cooperposter300.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.munciefreepress.com/node/20063&usg=__XNyLlyFv_BRkscti73bNkxldbhU=&h=394&w=300&sz=205&hl=en&start=79&sig2=0SvTvmJv3aygVIALpGA94A&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=2qgRGd8F6rX_AM:&tbnh=124&tbnw=94&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddb%2Bcooper%2Bmoney%26start%3D63%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rlz%3D1T4GGLL_enUS351US351%26ndsp%3D21%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=BWuES5S8LYO-swOa4e2eDw 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Tom fishing for clues at Tena Bar http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://blog.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/2009/03/kaye.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/03/amateur_detectives_fish_for_db.html&usg=__Tv35hM6bQeo1T0GFqPn4Y-ctW_Q=&h=669&w=1024&sz=292&hl=en&start=17&sig2=kG0CZv1D2NkmqQfz5noUCA&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=6n8nwe95r5WMUM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddb%2Bcooper%2Bmoney%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26rlz%3D1T4GGLL_enUS351US351%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=GGmES86lJJj-swO7872sDw 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=navclient&rlz=1T4GGLL_enUS351US351&q=db+cooper+money&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=EWmES-KmJIGAsgP1tfzFDw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CCEQsAQwAw More Tena Bar money pix. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

More photos of money and also of tie. http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/23435 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

http://www.coinnews.net/wp-content/images/pr/HeritageAuctions/DB-Cooper-Series-1963A-20-Dollar-Bill.jpg Why do the "horizontal" edges of the degraded bill stay fairly straight but the "vertical" edges take a rounded shape? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Little has been published about members of the public who went out in the woods to look for Cooper right after the crime made the news. If they found Cooper dead theyd probably have just taken whatever cash he had on him and just leave the body. No need to conceal it. What if they found him alive, with a lot of the money, but injured? Would a treasure hunter kill him and hide the body and rig? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo and Galen Cook have been threatening to publish blockbuster info, but so far nothing. Sheridan Peterson reads this forum, but has not responded to the latest invitations to discuss knowledge about the jumpability of 727s. Tom and the Science Team labor in secrecy. Stuff about pollen on the tie was mentioned then faded away. So many unanswered questions. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

A Hacienda Lockheed 049 Connie drawing (see pg 16) : http://www.scribd.com/Aircraft-Profile-120-Lockheed-Constellation/d/4662707 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

http://www.onlinenevada.org/Casino_Shuttle_Airlines Wow, the Haceinda became the largest buyer of California Champagne (sic) too. Ahhh, never understimate the power of marketing. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Back in the late 70s I saw a very complete but mothballed Lockheed Connie (a very rare 049 model) sitting at the Van Nuys CA Airport as I recall. It had Hacienda Hotel logos on it. It was later fixed up for a ferry flight to FLA and it made it OK, but then sadly was scrapped. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Nahh, just feels like you hit a jackpot when it opens with no problems and flies right. In fact, it feels better than anything you can get in Vegas, jackpot or otherwise. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Every skydiver is a gambler. When we pull the silver handle we are literally betting our lives on hitting a jackpot. I've won that jackpot twice. I mean what are the chances of hitting two jackpots on two pulls? They don't call em "riggers" for nothing. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

NB 8 and NB 6 on eBay, good photos. NB 8 http://cgi.ebay.com/Pioneer-NB8-Backpack-Parachute_W0QQitemZ310185888601QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4838850b59 NB 6 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/US-Navy-NB6-Parachute_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4838850b76QQitemZ310185888630QQptZMotorsQ5fAviationQ5fPartsQ5fGear Georger, every skydiver is a gambler. When we pull the silver handle (reserve ripcord handle) we are literally betting our lives on a jackpot. I've won that jackpot twice. I mean what are the chances of hitting two jackpots on two pulls? They don't call em "riggers" for nothing. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

You know I don't like all the insults but they were pretty easy to ignore when they were just words on a screen. I side with Bruce. Snow made big contributions here and he is an unbelievably clever web searcher. He shouldn't have been given a life sentence for what amounts to simply mouthing off. Sentences are often commuted, a subject Jo knows well. I think the severity of Snow's sentence should be reevaluated by Quade when he has cooled down a bit. It's hard to be merciful when someone is jabbing a stick in your eye, I do understand that. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Pete, when did you first learn that a Boeing 727 could be jumped? If you knew it before Cooper jumped, how did you get the knowledge? Did you see anything about airdop capabilities in Boeing 727 tech documents ? Air America did some S/L jumps out of a 727 over Thailand before Cooper made his jump. This isnt a rumor, the actual 727 jump films are on You Tube and the operation was personally confirmed to me by an aviation history professor at the University of Texas who specializes in the history of covert air ops in SE Asia. Did guys like you (jumpers posted in SE Asia) hear about the Air America test jumps? Don't worry about your memory, just tell us what you can. We'd be happy to get any info or leads. You and I sure agree on the Patriot Acts, they are a legal abomination. Hope you are doing OK. Thanks for posting here. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Georger wrote: The C9 is used in jet ejection seats and also in bail out rigs for aircrew who do not have ejection seats. . It is a rugged VERY strong canopy. The suspension lines run from riser to the skirt then all the way up to the apex and down the other side back to the opposite riser connection point thus reinforcing the entire canopy structure. Many sport rounds just attached the lines to the skirt band. The C9 was designed for the survival of pilots, not for maneuverablilty or forward speed. Since bailouts and ejections often occur in bad weather I assume that stability in turbulence was a factor considered in the design and selection of the C9. I can't imagine any round chute being much better than a C9 in turbulence as far as staying inflated goes. I've never jumped in stormy turbulent weather so I really dont have direct experience with canopy performance in such an environment. In a downdraft the round canopy is moving in the airmass and will go down with it the same way it goes with horizontal wind. Just think of a downdraft as vertical wind. If a C9 were in a microburst with 50 mph vertical downdrafts it would go with the airmass and hit the ground with roughly the speed as the microburst winds. People get confused about relative winds. They assume that a parachute would descend far slower than the downdraft it is in, a conclusion which I say is incorrect. My semi educated guess is that Cooper's C9 stayed inflated if it was deployed and was inflated when he hit his first terrestrial object. Even if a round collapsed it would inflate again after falling some distance. Riggers and aero engineers know a lot more about canopies than I do. I just know that my C9 was not a soft landing canopy (high descent speed) but it was tough as hell and I never worried about collapse or structural failure. Lightly loaded ram air canopies can get very touchy in turbulence. I have flown paragliders (whichg are lightly loaded ram airs) and they are twitchy in turbulence near cliffs. I have seen videos of them collapsing. Never saw rounds do anything remotely close. What does AMAZON say bout this topic? She has pounded ground in rounds with the rest of us and I am sure she has her own C9 stories. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I'd still love to hear what (if anything) Sheridan knew about 727s being jumpable before Norjack took place. Were the Air America Thailand 727 S/L jumps known outside of Air America/CIA circles before Norjack? If so who knew and how did they learn of the 727 jumps? Was there info at Boeing about 727 airdrop capability? Was Pete aware of this info? Was it known outside of the company and the govt. and if so by who? I continue to believe that Cooper KNEW a 727 was jumpable. That narrows the field of suspects considerably. Even if Pete wasn't Cooper he may have valuable info about this topic which could help in the investigation. I miss Snow. Wonder what he did after his last posts to get permanently banned? Could it have been some PM to Quade? His last few posts didnt seem to warrant permanent exclusion. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Georger asked: Never flown in wind shear so I can't comment on that. NB 6 and 8 just refer to the harness and container. The canopy I believe was a 28 ft dia. C9 round unmodified. Those kinds of canopies are drag devices not lifting airfoils and as such are far more tolerant of turbulence, gusts etc. than ram air rectangular canopies. I have over 100 C9 jumps. I have experienced partial collapses in turbulence with dual surface ram air canopies but never in a C9. A C9, once open, will almost always get you to the ground OK. If it's windy you will have a horizontal speed roughly equal to the wind speed. An unmodified C9 goes where the wind takes it. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Art Collins founded Collins Radio Company in Cedar Rapis Iowa. Very famous guy in the world of communication radio gear. At least some Collins radio equipment is aboard most airliners. Collins makes a lot of military avionics. They used to make high end ham radios too. No known relation to the Collins who the Night Clerk registered. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Was Bob feeling a little guilty about living among the rich and famous? I guess and outhouse and an old car would make it kinda OK to live in Malibu. G, do you have a picture of Bob's Malibu car? I do think the FBI was just floored by Norjack. They had investigated air piracy cases, but no AIR was involved. This one was pure flight (aeronautics) and flight (escape). They were in way over their heads. That's cool that you knew Art Collins G. What was he like? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Why is the DB Cooper forum a magnet for ham radio operators and their progeny? Only a schizophrenic would see a connection here, so maybe I should just quiet down. P.S. That pilot who crashed the Cessna 310 into a power tower the other day in Palo Alto CA was an Extra Class ham and also a skydiver according to news articles. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

and also your schizophrenic neighbors private conversations? How do you get enough dynamic range to avoid severe splatter on the thunder claps? AGC with fast attack? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

QuoteChina and other countries had multiple proton centers using our technology. Does this tell you how far the USA is behind in the medical field....in the developement and use of new technology? *** Most of the advanced med tech you see abroad was developed here, but the FDA is very very cautious and US approval usually comes long after these technologies have been used in foreign countries. You make some good points in your post Jo, about the emotional physical and financial costs of fighting advanced cancer. On another subject, why tease about what you think was going on in those rural camps? Why not just state what you think transpired? What does it have to do with Cooper? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I got a good laugh out of your guy line adventure G. Thanks for sharing it. Good thing the FBI doesnt charge Jo for investigating her complaints. Hope it was an HF antenna you were attending to. Gd DX!. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo, Sometimes docs call the end when cutting edge technology can change the grim outlook. Thousands of legs are amputated every year unnecessarily from diabetics with peripheral artery disease. They are gangrenous, circulation is just about gone etc. A device is available to slice the arterial plaque off the walls and remove it restoring circulation. The dead flesh falls away, the leg looks like it was attacked with a melon baller, but healthy tissue thrives again and the patient can walk on a their own leg rather than a prosthesis. I am not an MD or oncology expert but is FAR more helpful to encourage Sheridan to travel to the cutting edge of medical technology than to just accept an end stage diagnosis, question nothing and lay down and die. Some MDs are behind the times. I am not saying Sheridan's oncologist is out of date, but it's worth looking into. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.