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I agree. That was really funny Sluggo. I think you could wriote a Jo-macro that could do her posting for her just inputting a few key words and applying them to the post she is reponding to. What cracks me up is the drama and mystery: "I've already said way too much" "they won't let me reveal more" "my people have found---" etc. It's straight out of a B spy movie. If this forum is entertainment, Jo has to be recognized as one of the major contributors. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I actually am rational and skeptical, dont believe in the paranormal, alien kidnappings and and so forth. I think the $1,000,000 Randi prize will NEVER be claimed because people who think they have paranormal abilities are simply incorrect if not delusional. Follow the money, if anyone could predict the future they would be super rich very quickly. Randi's prize is a pittance compared to what they could make trading options. I must have some brain miswire though, cause I really like Coast to Coast AM, UFO stuff and Duane=Cooper stories. I think it is a fascination about the psychological processes that cause people to believe in things that aren't really there, THAT is what interests me, not the substance of underlying fringe claims. Have I learned from experience about Jo? Absolutely not. Bring it on, can't wait to see Duane's jump records. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Heres what a jumper who lost the bet with Jo would write: Dear Jo, I lost the bet and admit that you have proven Duane was a trained parachutist. I meant to incude the hundred dollar bill with this letter but I had already sealed the envelope and only then realized I had forgotten to include it. I will attend to remedying that error as soon as I get caught up on child support payments, get my rig out of the pawn shop and pay my rigger for the last repack. Sincerely, ********* 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Swine-Flu-Incubation-Period 2-7 days Jo. Hope you feel better soon. Stay hydrated. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Come on Jo, you claimed that there were inmate smoke jumpers not inmate wannabes. I dont care who washed out or didnt make the grade. Of course they wouldnt be listed, just as those who try for military flight training and wash out are not listed as military pilots. Stay on point. Do you still contend that there was a program in California in which prison inmates served as smoke jumpers? Yes or no? If your answer is yes I think you are wrong on the facts. I think the program never existed. Why would it? There has never been a shortage of qualified smoke jumpers. Why take inmates when non criminals are available? You've also claimed that Duane had Ranger training but off the books and off the base. I think that is also incorrect. You said you can prove Duane has made a parachute jump. What are you waiting for? Where's the beef? Speaking of beef, yuk on your local McD's Georger. That's disgusting. Maybe they could revive and (more importantly) sterilize those old cold beef patties by dipping them in some of their court certified scalding coffee? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

It would buy 16 meals for Georger and 100 for a jumper. The dollar menu at McD's is corporate welfare for skydivers. The heart surgeons, interventional cardiologists and stent mfrs subsidize the program. Jo is really amazing in that she still has the ability to market her extraordinary claims and generate interest. I mean I am POSITIVE that she will not really prove Duane was a parachutist, but I still eagerly await the revelation, wondering if just this once she may be right and is not just teasing us. Who is crazier, Jo with her wildly speculative claims or those who still wait for the next one even with a modicum of excited expectation. I know the answer Georger, you dont have to tell me. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Not really, keeping your mouth shut about a crime you had no participation in isnt normally a crime by itself (there are some exceptions like mandatory reporting of child molestation), but if you are subpoened to testify and given immunity your continued silence can put you in prison. Lieing to the FBI is a federal crime and people have served time in Club Fed for doing it. The FBI lieing to you is not a crime. If it was a crime for a federal official to lie to a civilian, most legislators would have to be indicted. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I'll place another bet. There have never been prison inmate smoke jumpers in the USA. I've looked everywhere, corresponded with old smoke jumpers and there is no evidence that an inmate smoke jumper program ever existed. Prisoners did do a lot of ground based firefighting but I see no evidence that they jumped. Smoke jumper history is very well documented. I looked in those archives to verify that Sheridan "Pete" Peterson was a smoke jumper. No Duane Weber was listed and no John Collins either. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

website is having probs, will post later. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Yes I am placing my bet that Duane never jumped. If you can prove unequivocally that Duane jumped then a lot of skeptics including me are going to have egg on their face and crow on their dinner plate. Why wait Jo? Are "they" still muzzling you? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Georger wrote: I agree that Jo tries our patience, over claims, under delivers, overplays the blonde card and is hanging on to a thesis which has no supporting evidence... but I don't see her as cold hearted. Sluggo, who has met her in person says quite the opposite in fact. Online personalities dont always correlate with real world ones. Snow, in person, is really a warm hospitable thoughtful person, but few here would believe that. Jo says she isnt long for this world. and I have no reson to doubt her. Right or wrong there are things she needs to resolve about Duane before she dies. Even Jo has recently hinted that it is all about Duane and not necessarily about Cooper, although I can't ignore her occasional unequivocal statements that they are the same person. It really isnt a big bother to read her postings or alternatively to ignore them. She is promising big revelations soon, but we all know where that is likely headed. Just relax and enjoy the fun here. Its a big sandbox and there is room for many, even those who do not "play well with others." 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Is Sheridan Peterson still reading tis forum? Check in and let us know Pete. You'll be pleased to know Pete that I am donating to the ACLU to fight against the cynically misnamed Patriot Act Would sure like to know if you or others in SE Asia during the war knew about the Air America 727 S/L jumps done in Thailand, and if so, how you learned about them and when. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

You are the forum boss Quade but I do hope it isnt a closed book. I am not playing a violin or hoping for a Shawshank Redemption, but keep mercy in your ammo belt along with banishment etc. Hey Quade, have you seen District Nine? I thought it was a phenomenally good movie for relatively low budget sci fi. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

In the late 60s I used to see a DH Heron flying regularly over the SF Bay Area. There were at least two used by a scheduled airline flying pax between some SF Bay Area airport and San Luis Obispo CA. It had a unique sound, like 4 Cessnas in formation. I read somewhere that the UK engines had been replaced by Lycomings. It seemed to be flying pretty fast. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

True. Spending money wont find Cooper. It will probably take some twist of fate, coincidence or lucky break. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Let's just cut her a break and just call it a hospital bed confession. Who really cares under what circumstances his Cooper confession was made if Duane was lieing? Nothing so far pans out despite claims that Duane had Ranger training, was a govt spook, was an inmate smoke jumper etc etc. Lots of claims, zero proof. More claims coming, be ready. What we do know is that Duane was a rather ordinary crook who got caught a LOT. He seemed to do well with women too convincing quite a few to marry him. I don't think Duane knew the difference between an ink well and a Capewell and I'll bet that he never parachuted, not even once. Have Amazon and Jerry settled their suspicions regarding whether the other person is a bonafide military trained jumper? Jerry, click on Amazon's avatar and you see some biographical info. I'll be she has more in servce C9 canopy rides than any woman ever. I still miss Snowmman's input. Quade ought to let him back on at some point. A life sentence seems too extreme. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

So who is your favorite paratrooper Orange? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Are you sure Quade? I don't know the "worth" metrics but solving big mysteries has significant monetary value in the publishing business. Finding and documenting the Titanic made somebody some serious money. Finding Amelia's plane will do the same thing and as we speak big money is being quietly spent in that particular pursuit. Surely solving NORJACK, one of the biggest crime/aviation mysteries of the 20th century is, in the hands of a savvy marketer, worth more than $100,000.00 or do you disagree? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Quade wrote: Every pilot, rich or poor, has a LOT to lose if they crash. Sometimes acrobatics are done on an impulse, just one roll or perhaps a loop, unplanned exhuberance that trumps good judgment. Sometimes they are done too low, or in some other unsafe manner. It's illogical but it happens. I watched such an incident kill a friend. It was a Friday in March of 1973 when I, Roy Starbird and Paula Peterson played hookey from work and law school to so some RW out at the Cal Club DZ at Livermore CA. John Lewis met us there with the club's Cessna 180 which was owned by the Meredith Bros. We had some fun RW jumps and geared up for the sunset load. We were the only jumpers out there. It was a perfect spring evening, warm and clear. The three of us jumped, did some 3 way RW watching a gorgeous sunset and landed in Jensen's field across the street from the main LZ. I heard a loud noise, looked up and saw the Cessna diving towards us. John pulled out, did a very low level buzz job then snap rolled into the ground at high speed not more than a few hundred feet from where I stood watching. I was first to the wreckage hoping John might still be alive. It was horrible. I still have nightmares about what I saw even over thirty years later. It seemed inexplicable that a 4800 hour pilot would do a roll without having his seatbelt fastened. I suppose if you kept a perfect positive 1 g thoughout the roll you'd be OK. Did he just forget the seatbelt? The investigator who interviewed me said John had fallen away from the controls during the roll because he was not strapped in. http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/brief.asp?ev_id=67768&key=0 This isnt about Cooper or even directly relevant to Fosset, but it shows you that pilots (and jumpers and even skyjackers) sometimes do crazy illogical things on an impulse with tragic results. Could Fosset, punchy from hypoxia, have done something unsafe on an impulse? Who is to say? He wouldn't be the first or the last. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Georger, Do you think Cooper landed in the river? It sure looks like his money may have. Just curious about your current thinking on the subject. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

They need to do a bit more research on boring animal resistance. Those Cooper twenties were in pretty bad shape. I am assuming the holes were made by some kind of animal, but who knows? Remember when they couldnt find hardly any circulated hundred dollar bills without measurable cocaine residue? It became an issue in a currency forfeiture case. The feds said it was drug money citing cocaine residue on the bills and the claimant said it was no different than generally circulated hundreds, and was apparently right. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Nobody knows for sure why Fosset crashed. A pilot I know thinks that he may have been doing acrobatics. To that pilots eye (he flies acro) the wreckage condition and distribution suggests a high speed impact inconsistent with straight and level cruise speeds for the type of aircraft he was flying. It appears that he hit with his wings level and at high speed. His seatbelt was unfastened which argues against acro flying. To me it's inconclusive as to what caused the crash. See: http://www.flyingmag.com/safety/accident-investigations/acceptable-risk 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I stand corrected Georger. 1.5 miles is surprising. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Georger may know more than I do about Fosset's crash site. I thought no bones were found more than about 200 yards from structural wreckage. Amazon, do tell us how YOU of all people got roped into a Sasquatch hunt??? I'd say show me a body, skull or other verifiable body parts from a dead one then we'll look for a live one. How can people believe that big ape like animals live among us yet NO remains have ever been found. As I recall Jerry is HALO qualified and also has made sport FF jumps. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

It's funny to see Amazon and Jerry questioning each other to see if the other really is a trained parachutist. I have talked to a few pretenders and they are soooo easy to spot. Jerry and Amazon are (to me) clearly experienced jumpers. Take a good read about Steve Faucet's crash discovery. Just like Jerry said, scavenging animals had moved bones and even his wallet contents but most parts were found and none very far from the impact area. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.