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This is probably going to be the best direction towards a solution. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Being a "Pro" means making professional decisions, not popular ones. This may have been a disappointing decision, but I applaud the entire team's professionalism. And, the NFL team asked you back. Even if they hadn't; the right decision was made. Thank you. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Those damn pilots. They'll never understand the nature of a good 'ol fashioned "Bonus Days" party. [/sarcasm} Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Well, my personal goal is to change the terminology. If we are belly-flyers, then they must be "Butt-flyers" In all fairness to our butt-flying friends, they have taken skydiving to a whole new dimension. They appear to be very attuned to all three dimensions of skydiving. Being one of the RW guys, I have done some FF'ing and it is fun. Ya know how you used to go out and just do backflips and barrel rolls and other manuevers on a solo skydive; well they do the same thing on every jump. It's fun with very little dirt-diving. There has been "some" narrowing of the gap between FF'ing and RW with the new hybrid dives and even the SCRs now have a vSCR and vSCS. I look forward to the day we can build some form of Borg cube together. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Are you saying that you have yet to do a stand-up landing in 44 jumps or since you've started jumping again? Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Tandem Progression and AFF learning curves are roughly the same. Either one you choose will help you achieve your goal of moving towards becoming a USPA Licensed skydiver. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

OK. My bad. You routed them correctly and this was the result. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Have you tried reversing them so the longer one routes to the left 3 ring with the same results? Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Neither. Call it the "existentialism of skydiving" if you will. It is the moment "from" and "do" do not exist. I call them, "all about me dives." And, when folks at the DZ ask me to go on a jump and I tell them, "Thank you," but this is an all about me dive...they understand. In fact, when I leave the plane they are almost appreciating the freedom of the moment with me. A couple [maybe three] years ago at Quincy, I saw a guy running around with his shirt off. On his back in large gothic lettering was tattoed, "Freedom." That said it all. I've been jealous of not having thought of that Tat ever since. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

edited to put Tommy above the quote line. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Every once in awhile someone asks you a question that causes you to pause and think. This is one of those questions. It also comes at a very good time in that; I think we all go through phases of questioning skydiving. The time away from family and friends, the money spent, the DZ "As the Prop Turns BS," skydiving goals, work intruding on skydiving and skydiving intruding on work which supports the addiction, etc. I think we all spend an inordinate amount of time for no remuneration to pass on our love and knowledge of skydiving. I think the "why" we do it is so that others can experience the sense of freedom we've experienced. And what is that sense of freedom? For me, it's those few seconds of being in the door when it opens and I'm looking over a plain of clouds and being on the same level with the sun as it is setting. It's about those first ten seconds on a solo jump when I step out of a plane, ride the hill and watch the sun dip behind the horizon while I'm in freefall. And, it's about watching a FJ or tandem student land and have experienced that same feeling, even if it is only once in their lives. I revisit that feeling thru their eyes. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/safety/detail_page.cgi?ID=46 Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

A couple of tools... 1. While on Final, learn what your canopies glide slope angle is and maintain your eyeballs at that angle throughout the entire landing. A lot of students have a tendency to look out at about 45 degrees or at the "X" and shoot for that. As they get closer, they begin changing their eyeball angle downward as they fly over it and once over it, say to themselves, "I'm there" and usually flare too high. Ask your Instructors how to avoid "Target fixation." 2. Another thing to talk with your instructors about is your canopy. Some canopies are designed to have one long continous stroke to the groin during the flare process, others do better with a three stage flare for landing (I'm confident your instructors will cover which one to use). 3. Finally, depending on the wind conditions when landing, you may wish to speak with your instructors about matching the speed by which you flare your toggles down equitably with that of the speed of the ground coming up to you. For example, if the ground is coming up at a slow rate, flare your toggles downwrds at THAT rate of speed with the goal of being at full flare when your feet touch. The ground may be coming up slowly in which case, you pull your toggles down slowly, then SUDDENLY the ground appears to be coming up to you faster, match that speed of ground coming up with that of toggles flaring down (make sense?). PLFs. Find a former Airborne guy at your DZ and ask him to teach you PLFs. I think you'll find that EPs are taught much more often and with more intensity than PLFs. However, I feel confident in saying that you will use PLFs a lot more during your skydiving career than you will EPs. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Kewl, man. Thanks for the clarification. If you ever get up this way and need to borrow an MT1XX, I got one available. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Sorry, I am not buying this at all. Skydive Dallas has been nothing but gracious to me and my fellow Anvils; some of whom are larger than you. Everyone on the staff there has always welcomed me with open arms. 15 yard penalty for... Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

'bout time for you to trade him in for a couple of 20 year olds? Happy Birthday, Chuck. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Our curriculum comes from the USPA Basic Safety Recommendations (BSRs). If you download it as Aggie Dave suggested, you will not only be one-step ahead in each category, but it will also give you the baseline reference you're looking for regarding instruction. P.S. To prevent from being labeled as a troll, you may want to fill out the rest of your profile. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

I can firmly state for the record that I have not flip-flopped on any of the circular issues. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Perhaps both of you should write a paper and submit it to me. It's due Wednesday. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

How many groups were behind you? Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

It is possible to do your toe touchs and then go back to what is creating the turn. For example; 1. If you drop a knee just slightly; you will turn. 2. If you turn a foot out 3. If you have one arm slightly lower than the other 4. if you drop a shoulder. My suggestion would be for you to pay for the slot of an up n coming videographer to film you on a solo. Nine times out of ten, that video will show you what you're doing wrong. Having said that, please don't get too frustrated. Everyone has some kind of issue while a student. I have long legs so turns were a problem for me also. Most of the time it was because I had floppy legs and one would wind up me arse a little. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Thank you for the memories. I learned on a Papillon and bought a PC. It was solid black H/C and belly wart with red/white/blue canopy for $350.00. The owner even thru in the belly-wart dashboard which housed an altimeter and stopwatch. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Do you not see the contradictions in this? The most important thing to take away from this comment is, "In retrospect, it would have been a lot better if..." Now, let's work on saying, "It would be a lot better to..." Can you do these on a 250 sq.ft. canopy? http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/safety/detail_page.cgi?ID=47 Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Wings has the same offer, just not as heavily marketed. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Actually, the ISP is AFF and/or AFP and/or S/l-IAD and/or tandem AND it is no longer about number of jumps as much as it is about categories. It's also about parsing out the learning over a greater number of dives with less performance-objectives per dive and therefore, less performance anxiety with more enjoyment of freefall. It's about having the flexibility to use ANY instructional methodology at any point and use them over the course of 25 dives to get an "A" license and no longer think in terms of 5, 7, 10, 12 jump benchmarks. It's about never having to "flunk" a student again, but merely encourage them on what needs to be done better within this category. It's about all three instructional methodologies working in harmony to achieve the student's objective of becoming a skydiver. If a student is having difficulty with a Cat D dive within the AFF program, then handing them off to a TI for a one-on-one dive to correct. It's about being able to take the student that is having difficulty with canopy control and handing them off to an S/L Instructor and going to 7500' and just working the canopy. It's about flexibility, safety, fun and retention. It's about changing hardline barriers into learning bridges. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.