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Nick, I'm not even a Rigger, but know that's a helluva find. Me Mum had one for years. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Hehe... Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

It's not that the AFF program has changed as much as most DZ's have recognized a certain increase in AFF Level 1 performance (or should I say a decrease in first jump anxiety) if a Tandem is done first... The more we use all or most of the tools in our arensal (tunnel, tandems, etc.), the greater chance that when one chooses to progress beyond the "Do it once in my lifetime;" the greater their success and higher retention. At our DZ, we've incorporated AFP, IAD & AFF and educate the customer on the categorical steps towards the "A" License and the full ISP. Student retention is up as is the number of first time students (Students are selling skydiving more than we are). We've gone from needing more students to needing more Instructors and another airplane. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Thank God. It's hard to find good help these days. Gimmee to around the first part of October and she'll be coming at ya. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

I think the real question is, "Where the hell have you been?" We haven't talked in about five years since I split my Safire 189's 4 cell from stem to stern. It's about time for me to get a reline on my 169 and heard you were in Chicago, then back to SC... You back at home now so I can send this puppy in to get the reline this winter? Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

I went thru in 1980 and we'd heard stories about the Brits and the balloon jumps. One (supposed story) that cracked me up was that the Brit JM's commands were something like. "Everybody got their chutes on; right, let's go!" Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

There's a "Howl at the Moon" in Houston. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

You going to be able to get out or do you have to dig in? Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Hutch, Been thinking about you a lot lately. Probably has something to do with our getting together at WFFC this time each year. I'm glad you got to go to last year's last WFFC. Rest in peace, my friend. Woof. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

"hit the hole poll man" Stick it in!! God... who says we're not programmable. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Thanks, Dave. I sent him an e PM explaining _why_ and the brackets thing. Keith Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

No. The Lexmark software isn't glitchy. The McAfee software is less than stellar. If you run HijackThis with Lexmark printers; you'll find a line something like: Application/Service9x Not disinfected E:\Drivers\Win_9X\lxcgsr9x.ex_ Your computer is fine. Well, let me re-phrase that - what McAfee found is a non-issue. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

I'm screwed. I maintain the company of skydivers. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Don't hold me to it; but do you happen to have or had a Lexmark printer? Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Doesn't matter what I would do. It's your decision to make. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

I "believe" Chris Miller at Spaceland is still an Eclipse I/E also... But you may want to check with him. It's been about 4 years since I got my Eclipse rating from him. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

You'll understand if I address each of these individually. I read of each of these arguments prior to forming my _opinion_ and the letter. We still have rigs & reserves from the 70's that were under a shorter inspection cycle. In fact, we have rigs & reserves that have been around so long that some riggers refuse to inspect & repack anything over 20 years old. I read the list. I hate to go all Kallend on you, but there's more countries on the list that I think are great examples not to emulate. For me, "Because they do it..." is a reference; not a reason. And, if we're going to do it _like_ they do... some of the countries on the list don't require the same standard of certification to pack the reserves, nor even a seal. Again, it's not about _just_ the reserve repack, but the system as a whole - and on that note: see below. In my dissention, I also refer to the number of field riggers that have found issues in the field, which have resulted in manufacturer testing and Service Bulletins. Bill, you know that I respect your opinion in many areas and as of my letter to the FAA did not see one from you. I ask you as an engineer and probably fellow in the science of Quality Management; What does it really hurt to leave the 120 day inspection cycle? Are we to consider it the as just an inspection cycle or view it as preventative maintenance? I also ask, if it saves one life; is it worth it to leave it at 120 days? Conversely, which is more likely to save one life; 120 or 180 days? IMO this is about the extra $50.00 per annum, which every DZ with numerous rigs would find advantageous as would the average _on the bandwagon_ skydiver. I look forward to reviewing your letter to the FAA. EDIT: I encourage any/everyone to write their papers with compelling enough arguments, evidence, information... I can still add an addendum to the list reversing my position. I've been thinking about this for awhile - and it's going to take more than cheerleading "I support the 180 day cycle." Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

You're welcome to contradict my essay to the FAA. But I hope you do better than, "cost," "I support the 180 day cycle" without any reason as to why, or just address it as a reserve repack without mention of the harness inspection. I have been known to reverse my position when adequately educated or by a stronger argument. So far, that hasn't happened. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

That's assuming someone your age could hit the urinal!! Uh oh... this is gonna hurt.. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

The best people to observe your concerns are the Instructors or Riggers at your DZ. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Lookin for a switch now. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Yup. She needs a good spanking - who's gonna take care of that; you or me? Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

He didn't fall. I woke up and found a guy burglarizing my flat, determined that my right to privacy & safety outweighed his right to steal and I threw him out the window. What's the problem? Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

JP, Can you expand on that. Have questions about the drogue, EP's etc. TI; but not a Birdman, so am not versed in the complexities of combining the two and the thought behind it. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

To me, txt msg'ing is old stuff... Tried video conferencing with record function, yet? Coming to a PDA near you. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.