matthewcline

I just don't see your politically appointed Military Leaders saying "No Sir". Maybe they will argue till blue in the face, maybe they will have communications break downs and get lost in route. I think they will HOPE for public outcry and the Orders being reversed, rather than refuse to obey them. The ones who lay down their arms or take them up in defense of the group the GOV wants eliminated, will be lower ranked, and they will be prosecuted. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

No, one is murder, one is suicide, neither are normal, in a civilized society. But, the Suicide is usually the one that gets the label of "nutter". Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

That ruling just made it "legal", they happened to be around before then. That whole legal run was all out of the Kerry/Bush Election Cycle wasn't it? I am not saying I like them, just looking at the history of them. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Am I wrong in thinking this is not knew, just a rehash of the old stuff? I can't remember Carter running and only a little of Reagan, but didn't they have PAC"s and Super PAC's then too? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

What classifies him a a "nutter" is it the suicide attempt at the end? or the shooting of the co-workers? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

You are only partially correct, I believe. Investigate that subject for the exceptions thereof. What makes my statements evidence? GOTCHA! So far you don't qualify for any "exception", so no "Gotcha". Your statement was that you heard it from others, "Hear say". If your going to claim you actually witnessed the training and crime being committed, the you would need evidence to corroborate your statement. With out evidence, there is no; "statement of fact". Besides, you apparently have no skills the group needed to commit the crime, so you could not possibly have been there or "in the know" or an accomplice. Matt Matt, you are so unformed or did you mean "uninformed"? which is why I ask you for answers and proof. that it is really difficult to communicate with you. I'd like to help you out, but I don't have the patience to deal with your negativity. ? calling into question none facts is negative? For your basic premise, let me repeat for your benefit, I was put into this Project at the request of McCoy through coerusion ? by Commander John Anderson in lieu of 4 years in Levenworth So, like Rambo?. My special abilities were an exceptional memory augmented by MK Ultra The beer?. You know nothing of what transpired, and I do not expect you to be understanding, as Jim told me you joined the Crew Who is "Jim"?. Gotcha. I won't respond to anymore of your posts. You have been exposed. Just trying to be nice, here. By your standards or socially acceptable ones? Ask Jerry. Jerry knows everything. Will do, Jerry? Jo forgot more than Bleepins knows, and Bill ain't talkin' at all. Mac ain't sayin' nothin' either. But I DID talk with him often.Before he died? At least HE didn't lie through his teeth..... ya'all. So I understand. You're in the Pen, some one figured out you have a good memory, and booze or drug enhanced it is even better (this would mean no need for logs, as you could just spit out the info when needed, hence no records brilliant!). So they gave you a pardon and wiped out all records of your criminal past. Then you started as the NORJAK Secretary. What next? The MK stuff, are there any long term side effects? How long did you use it? Is it addicting? is it a gateway? This, to me, is starting to make sense. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Holy Cow When was your last meeting with your local psychiatrist to cope with stress? You sound like you're under continuous fire Schatzi.........! Wie gehts. ( please excuse my grammar and spelling) My stress......?? I'm kool as an ice cube in Alaska, yesterday. How do you gather that I'm stressed? Are you a Shrink? Oh Dear....... Are you taking my posts as real events in my life? Schatzi........ Was Gher right about what he said about you and I the other day? No, it was just a back handed insult. To answer your question, yes I have walked up on numerous bodies, mostly I felt pity, for some I wondered why they even tried, and others I was pissed at. I never abused them though, and I didn't allow my men too either. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

TM that! From the ashes of Hostess comes "Victory Twinkies"! They will sell like, well Twinkies. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

I know what we are talking about, your example was not that however (unless some details have been left out). Listing more bad apples doesn't make it any less wrong. Those five Marines KNOW better and are normally far more disciplined. Lets not justify it as a heat of the moment issue (as it wasn't), and lets not justify it as a "war is hell" issue. Those Marines made a bad decision no matter what the thought process was that let to the action. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

You are dead on point. However, we are not talking about troops who snap. That is too extreme an example for this post. Dehumanizing the enemy is easy. Fear, traumatic events. It sets in fast, too. I pose you, this. There you are again...... You just set off a claymore mine with your clacker, in the middle of the night and you have lain still for a few hours until the area gets light enough to see. Of course, when you can see, is when the shooting starts again, sometimes. There on the trail before you lies three men. Enemy soldiers in uniform and all that. Two have had their abdomens torn open and are very very dead. The third has had a leg traumatically severed below the knee. He also has multiple ball bearing holes in his abdomen, left side and his face. There is a huge puddle of blood there, and you can see that he's a dead man already. As you become visible, the fool makes a grab for his AK. You make the call............ Keep in mind, your criteria for a soldier and why they dehumanize the enemy. Yeah....... it's a shitty deal. Bad example, he is an enemy combatant who went for his weapon. He shows he is still in the fight and can be engaged. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

With his oppressive GOV point of view, IO would agree with him. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

In my four operational tours (TL, then SL, and then PSG) I stopped one kid from wanting a picture with a body. The rest of the time (about two and a third years total) the guys did as we had trained, we moved toward the enemy, make contact, assaulted through, consolidated, reorganized, and then moved on to the next OBJ. In the earlier years we tended to leave, after the search for usable intel, rather quickly too. In the later years, I moved the guys who happened to be in the contact to the perimeter and the QRF or follow on force handled the OBJ. We spent a little more time, but still moved out quickly. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

President Obama killed off Sharia Law? oooh, that will piss of his pals at the Mosque! Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

It's very difficult to control people who have just been "nearly killed" in a fight. Emotions run super high. Far higher than any skydive will ever produce. But place it in perspective..... A guy aims an AK at your chest, and pulls the trigger... He missed, or was empty. You, Marinus, then stitch him from his navel to his right shoulder. This ain't the fuckin' movies either. He's dead. You're alive. Try taking your own pulse and controlling yourself after some shit like that. It's not an easy thing to do. Then work through that scenario again and again day and night, awake or in your dreams for a year. Then again for two or three more deployments. See my point? BTDT, 21 years worth, never once did I piss on the dead. I yelled at them, sure it was derogatory, but no need to mutilate or pis on them. At the moment in time the video was shot, they had no such stresses (look at the video again, the firefight was long over)and had the chance to just walk away. They should have, just walked away. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

I was not aware of that. I never saw such a reference. The Ace of Spades was popular. The guys with whom I discussed this custom stated they had unit business cards printed in country. Yes, Death Cards happened to be popular, back then. But, when Intel assets told various Commanders the reason they saw an increase in attacks against their command was due to the death card retaliation, it fizzled out (It did try a return later, with out much success,as the practice doesn't scare the enemy) . Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

I think you're riding the wrong horse on this one. They know better, and should be better disciplined than that. They are better than this. Additionally, they have all read, and been briefed on how the enemy, and their supporters, react to things of this nature. Bad move, inexcusable. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

You are only partially correct, I believe. Investigate that subject for the exceptions thereof. What makes my statements evidence? GOTCHA! So far you don't qualify for any "exception", so no "Gotcha". Your statement was that you heard it from others, "Hear say". If your going to claim you actually witnessed the training and crime being committed, the you would need evidence to corroborate your statement. With out evidence, there is no; "statement of fact". Besides, you apparently have no skills the group needed to commit the crime, so you could not possibly have been there or "in the know" or an accomplice. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Didn't we, at one time, have laws like that here in the good Ol' U.S. of A.? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Yeah, the emotican wasn't sarcastic enough I guess. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

I try and give good advice! Now, have fun, don't over teach (or reach) and don't ever forget you can say "No" if it feels wrong to you! Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Thanks fucker. For those wondering, I got Earned my AFF-I rating yesterday.

The article mentions 2012 GOP Nominee aspirations. Seems like a thought of a political future, but at a higher, criminal level. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

You people make me SICK! Now take that egg and deep fry it and process that oatmeal and fruit and we are talking! So that is how you eat, yet you want women to eat like birds, be a size 0 (up to a smallish 6, maybe!) with big fake tits? OK Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

It's not that I say so, it is what McCoy said. I believe McCoy based on the entirity of Project Norjak and the conformation of others involved. It is not MY say-so. it is a statement of record. You have absolutely no reference to claim my statements untrue. I do not have to prove anything, just like you proved NOTHING about KC! It is a matter of believability. The fact that nothing is believable by you, except what you think, explains and verifies my suspicions. Puppet do what puppet told to do. I stand on a more basic principle. "Thou shall not bear false witness." Ask McCoy. Ask the others. Expect false witness. They have an *. Not me. I am not guilty of anything. Jerry knows everything. It is Jerry's and Jo's sandbox. It's my litterbox. What you describe, is hear say, I believe. Hear say, is not a statement of fact, legally, and thus not admissible as, fact. Now a Certified recording, written statement, or even McCoy himself saying he did say that would not be hear say and thus proof. The basic gist is, any thing you say you, "heard" from another is "hear say". I am still waiting on the answer of how you became involved as an accomplice, what are your areas of expertise? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

This was linked, to the story you linked. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=UoTsnNGxRUs Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!