matthewcline

You know, it's fairly bad form to ask for education all the while bad mouthing those you wish to get answers from being internet tough guys, taking it all too personally, while doing the same yourself. Pick one persona at a time. It is one persona, I never personally bad mouthed any individual, the two hurt but it, personally put it on them selves. The "educate me" was a little snarky, but the example given back was flawed, it even went from two to one example. I though t I was answering direct replies, like now, I thought that was how a forum works. There are so many folks wasting effort arguing against registration and not against the laws outlawing firearms. Focus on those laws and the registration thing may be a none issue. But, hey I am just a guy, on the internet. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

The internet tough guy really has you steamed? You, put it on you. I mean really Mike, are you raising up in arms against the US over this? Sure there are a few details to work out (integrating the background checks and allowing private sales some how), but if they are in place it will discourage folks, some good sure, but mostly bad. What was your stance on Paul Bremer's order to remove all the Firearms from the hands of the Iraqi People? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2012/jan/17/miller-why-i-still-havent-bought-gun-dc/ The BS this lady is going through his wrong, but it is not a registration issue, as it is a City Law issue which defines all the parameters of a firearm . Like California State Law, on what is or is not legal. Those should be challenged, but so far there is little to no viable arguments. Arguing against registration redirects the efforts and dilutes the focus. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Almost sounds like a decent argument for a flat rate, with; no deductions, no exceptions. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Not really. Given that the felon ALREADY has an illegal gun, what makes you think that he's going to pop down to the local PD and register it, pray tell? I don't, which is why I think it is a bad argument AGAINST registration. Now a registration process could help to deter some from getting a gun who should not have one, say a court deemed "nutter". Again there is a problem we have no easy solution for. It could also help to account for stolen weapons faster if you had to register and be responsible for them. I never called you or Kennedy Internet tough guys, you two put that coat on your selves. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Then it should be easy to get rid of the rich if the R and D party's are both in agreement and it is not just election year BS. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Ha ha! Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

In 7-1 decision, the Court ruled in favor of Haynes. Earl Warren dissented in a one sentence opinion and Thurgood Marshall did not participate in the ruling. As with many other 5th amendment cases, felons and others prohibited from possessing firearms could not be compelled to incriminate themselves through registration.[1][2] The National Firearm Act was amended after Haynes and the new registration provision was upheld in United States v. Freed, 401 U.S. 601 (1971).[3] Since the decision offers felons (and, by extrapolation, all other prohibited possessors) a considerable degree of immunity from gun registration, it is often cited[dubious – discuss] in the American gun rights debate.[citation needed] [edit] Odd pick. A Felon, has a gun, illegally, and that case is the argument AGAINST registration? Plus, it was a 5th amendment case according to wikipedia, of course. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Wow, You don't know me at all, do you? So, you see NO good reason for Registration of fire arms? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12275.php Why single out SKS? the list is huge. Did SKS get added as an amendment after 1989? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

In the USA? Educate me. Most recently after Roberti-Roos passed in Cali. People had to sell weapons out of state or give them up to the police. Of course, you'll disregard my statement since I'm just one of those 'internet tough guys' that think that the citizenry should and would resist. Ignoring your worthless insult, how would you propose anyone fight a government without weapons? Thanks for making my point Kennedy, it wasn't and insult, but a statement of internet truth. It absolutely *was* an insult. Put as much glitter on it as you like, a turd is still a turd. Some of those 'intellect over brawn' folks are also folks who would resist against the goverment...so are they smart or more of your 'internet tough guys'? Hi Mike. "Internet tough guys", you have used the term too, every one here has and has seen the cartoon (several version are out there) of the tough guy at his computer, arguing away, only to not go and do any thing. Oddly people you despise (I may have the wrong word there, loath might be better) are standing up and acting (OWS et al). Why do you and Kennedy seem to take it so personal? It is the internet, SC of Dropzone.com for fucks sake. The Californians could have challenge the laws Constitutionality in Court, did any one? Or did they meekly hand them in, then go and bash away on their blogs? Re-read what I wrote, I said; They use intellect over brawn, but know when to use brawn. An example: Those fellows in AZ, I think they are a bunch of asshats for their white power views (OK, that may be a rumor), but they used their intellect and brawn, with out violence. They went and stood with OWS-AZ-Phoenix and carried openly. But still this a thread about "nutters" and how we should not let them have a gun. Problem is how to identify the "nutter" before he (or she) kills. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Two recent examples- the SKS rifles in Californa Katrina Did the Mayor of New Orleans use registrations or door to door investigating? The SKS's, those aren't legal, in California, to begin with right? So how did that go down? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Based on this: http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ He is paying several shares of the taxes needed for paying down the debt, a few people should be thanking him! Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Aside fro m the usual Nazi Germany line, when has this happened? Registration has led to confiscation in Germany, in Russia, in the UK, in Canada, in Aus and NZ, and right here in the USA. In the USA? Educate me. Ignoring your worthless insult, how would you propose anyone fight a government without weapons?Thanks for making my point Kennedy, it wasn't and insult, but a statement of internet truth. It is being fought every day, by smart people who use intellect over brawn, but also know brawn has a place and time, plus I never said they should fight with out weapons, that was your leap. Can you think of instances where poorly armed forces fought a bigger badder opponents to a standstill? I can. Several. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

I looked at the shelf here at the local Walmart , all the usual brands. So I say fuck it and called a popular brand, and point blank asked them if they sell rejects to Walmart. Answer; "NO! We keep all rejects." Walmart says they don't get rejects either, just bulk deals. any one use Lucky Gunner for bulk buys? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Yeah, that is the little, light weight, one at around 50~lbs. the next two prototypes each weighed over 100~lbs. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

I still fail see to the "news". Or is this making "news" for news' sake? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Yes, depending on the stores location and the demographics. Why is this news? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

I was gonna reply to a particular post, but the post is now gone. An assault weapon was never referred to as such, prior to it becoming the current political hot topic it is these days. The definition of such a weapon changes with each party in power. Your conclusion that any weapon can be used as an assault weapon is true. History bears that out. Now, I am getting another cup of coffee, checking my BP, and warming my hands. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Sorry Matt. You are not qualified. Can't trust you with liable information. I'm sure you understand. You need credentials, like an authorization from Bill Rataczak for me to release the documents. I understand he has said no comment. BS, I did not ask for that, I asked for your MEMORY of the events. Other wise it is just LSD induced lies. You now what LSD is, right? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Registration has lead to confiscation. And I seriously doubt the founding fathers would have thought that registration would be a good idea.Aside fro m the usual Nazi Germany line, when has this happened? Remember they wanted the 2nd to be able to fight against a rogue government..... Hard to do when they govt knows what you have. I think one can still fight if need be, but as they are all just internet tough guys it is a none factor. We know what the GOV has, and in another thread knowing that may be why some are not going to stand up. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

I want to hear, Read, your recollections. I would like to read the whole story from start to finish, with out tangents, just a factual time line. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

I saw this is in the other thread too. Thanks for answering the question. I think they are just a "few bad apples" personally. But I also understand they wouldn't even be "apples", normally. But we have, and will continue to have, the need for "apples". History will keep repeating, we will keep recording it, and we will keep debating its consequences. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

I did read it, I want to know what YOU meant by it. Not what I think you thought the article said. So as to avoid confusion. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

What does that mean? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!