jimmytavino

Prompted by a Nick DG post... anyone out there who begins, or ends the day by reading the local fish wrapper??? we have a Gannett Paper in our city which is home delivered each morning..... by a very reliable paper carrier.. 4 sections,,, the usual AP or UPI stories.... National section, local section, Living section, sports...... I also pick up other papers at the drug store,,, if I'm looking for something to read... p.s. I love to read,,,, but usually not books,,, ( inadequate attention span I suppose ) I read papers, magazines, and of course forum posts... ANYONE else??????

i DO read the newspaper every morning while having coffee..( it gets delivered INSIDE my storm door, rain shine, snow or sleet ) and occasionally I'll buy the USA today, or the N Y papers at the local store..... The only thing I will belive as "GOSPEL",,, is the fact that statements have been printed on a page... As to the validity...... well I learned a while ago not to take everything I read as fact....... may start a thread to inquire about the newspaper reading habits, of our community.. jmy

yes i agree with this....... a father child arrangement would be real tough... and i think less beneficial to the youngster,, than a mother child... and I KNOW that there are exceptions to the rule, whereby a single woman DOES have the strength fortitude resilience and ability to be a great MOM in spite of the odds against her... There are examples of that here and there... but in general.... it's a tough situation and without an extended family who pitches in,,, the best for all is Mom Dad, and child child child etc.... Certain pairs of parents can properly raise many many children,,,, successfully,, but it's not easy, and it's not for everyone,,,, especially in this day and age... jmy

....only when it can occur under the loving shelter of a hard working, moral, loving Father... i will agree with your statement ,,, but only when there is a Dual parent Household,,,,, AND one which in which love, respect and CO-Operative efforts are shown...to all family members.. A mother -child relationship where there is ONLY the Mom and the child,,,,,, may not be as solid as you say, and as we would like... ,,, since often that sort of situation can be borderline 'unhealthy'.... The mother can cling too much to the child.... the child can miss lots of things offered by the second parent... Many single Moms are 'men haters'.... ( i have no statistics to back this up... but only observations...) The woman may have been hurt by men, or abandonded by men, or otherwise mistreated, and so they are at least "anti man",, if not a man hater per se....... Then the Mom pours all of her efforts and love, and yes even her anxieties,,, into the child or children... not necessarily a good thing... A household where one person only makes allll the decisions for the child,,, leaves no room for consideration of whether those decisions are good, or right, or even healthy... for those involved... Moms and Dads may and do disagree about child rearing,, and it is that back and forth, give and take, consider and reconsider, and general brainstorming,, which hopefully can result in the correct way to raise the child.. so a PAIR of parents, just might trump the royal flush of a Mom Child only pairing.. IMHO jimmy dad of a 24 yr. old and a 22 yd old.. pround husband of a super Mom...

sadly..... this may be about the most sensible suggestion.... our world today is getting to be a MESS..... and children conceived outta 5 minutes of physical selfishness, are only adding to our social difficulties...... since 'dis-concieving' is now a legally protected option..... ( NOT my doing, but the supreme courts')... you may HAVE to consider it... How does SHE feel about it??? since it IS a tough subject to broach... trouble is..... LOTS of sad, lonely unfullfilled girls/women.... think that a baby... a BABY for God's sake .. will be the ANSWER to all their problems... and in fact many single sad and troubled women,,, persue that path.. despite the common sense reality,, that it may NOT be best...for ANYONE involved.... Children are a HUGE.... huge. responsibility... and really only should come from the joint union, legally and religiously of the man and woman... other.."situations",, especially ones where there is no love, and even no respect for one another... CANNOT be healthy for the child... what a sad thing... How does this girl feel about it??? ... for those who say, we should not resort to a medical procedure at the beginning of life,,,, I ask,, what about all the extreme medical procedures we resort to at the END of one's life....??? Isn't that also "Playing God"..... the brutal reality of this day and age.. is one whereby, children raised with many many things stacked against them.. especially absentee parents, a resentful mother, and a father who feels like he was 'roped' into fatherhood... will struggle struggle struggle......all their lives... sad............ good luck... j

fair enough fincher... sometimes i let my irritation affect what i say and do... my post was a 'knee-jerk' reaction.. and as you point out. with an emphasis on the jerk....... my bad... sorry to have painted a large group and a large geographic area....with such a narrow -minded comment... I guess I AM out of touch with the YOUNGER generation,,,,, and I regret allowing myself to get dragged down to the level of back and forth bashing... there is no need to be embarassed for me, friend.......but thanks anyway...as for your assessment of my level of education?? well now sir...... You are wrong....... ps. my family favors Fords and Dodges, not Chevys

Hmmmmm so ?? are you an example of the caliber of the people in AlaBama??? if so i'm not impressed... You quoted from a thread in which B V made some accurate comments.. and asked some fair questions.... THAT thread got LOCKED because of the stupid responses from some of YOUR pals,,, trying to defend a poorly executed and even MORE poorly videoed "dirt demo"... clark7117. showed himself to be less than gracious, and now you're doing the same... hell, man,, can't take a critique'???? oh yeah I forgot.. you've been a skydiver for what???? 2 years now ??? three??? piss off pal.... as for all these hot babes you mention.. the 18 to 22 year olds...... How many of them were born to OTHER 18 - 22 year olds,,,,, whose social life consists of underage drinking and then screwing anything with a zipper... who drives a pick up truck???? sorry for the nasty attitude here... But if you don't like the message ( namely this entire skyride CALAMITY ) it doesn't mean you can tear down the messenger ( namely BillyVance)... never visited your state... and the folks like you and others at this prattville place surely are doing a poor job of representing it. seems like a good choice to drive around that state rather than through it... jmy a 3914 d 12122

Silly????? well you are being extremely gracious in your wording. skydiver51 started his or her comments here, with a Lousy attitude, nasty and malicious..... not a shred of sympathy.... Then when called on it.... continued along with further venom.... WTF indeed!!!!! then goes on to say bad shit about the very site, which allowed for the expression of said idiocy..... Unbelievable..... even if skydiver51 is NOT a thief, his or her credibility as a PERSON, has been called into question... good riddance indeed.... and Boinky...............too bad about your belongings.. NO ONE needs that sort of nonsense..... Glad that you went ahead and made it to the DZ... funny how a skydive or two can help us weather certain "storms" jmy A 3914 D 12122

sound like the plane WAS stolen... what a sad thing... OVER trouble with a girlfriend????? damn..... poor guy must have had some issues... sorry for the loss... j

i think it would be a 'just react' sort of thing... I never have had to deal with a wrapped bridle situation.... but I think that I could NOT just lay there and video an ongoing emergency and do NOTHING..... I have intervened in a flat spin scenario,,, simply flying in level to the pair, and planting a hand on the TM's leg as it 'came around again'.... the drougue was out and at full stretch, we had lots of altitude, and i could simply tell that " this was not a TM controlled 360..... The look on his face when they stopped,,, told me i did the right thing...

easy to answer....

what a Goddamned shame......... NOW>>>>>> any ideas... WHY that is.????? It should be ME who feels that way since I grew up in the 'free love' generation..... But i always interpreted THAT to mean... "we are free to love..." NOT.. love is free.... ( without emotional content, and without a certain degree of interpersonal responsibility ) I mean.. it's not just a damn sport !!!!! is it??? good luck... j

. . . . . so how was the 22 way ????? jmy

you might be a good example of NOT using just numbers to determine "newbie" status... as I read this thread i was thinking... it's also about time in sport, and as others have said, attitude, and Ability to pick up things, assimilate instruction, absorb the technical side of jumping, as well as the social side, and even reaching the point where you aware of the details of correct and proper dropzone etiquette... It's about how you interact with the entire crowd at the DZ.... staff, pilots, fellow jumpers, visiting tandem students, even their entourages of whuffo friends and family

cool it's nice to know that there are others who still "feel like I do " jaytee

tumbling, face planting, and even PLF's really have no place in a camera persons' repertoire... first of all good canopy flying skills, and a sensbile 'approach",,, both literally AND figuratively, should result 99% of time, in a decent landing... In the cases where one is experiencing a speedy landing...( no wind days, or having to make an avoidance turn just before touchdown..) i would recommend taking a page from the tandem masters book,,, and "sliding in" the landing.... as opposed to trying to run it out..... the slide when done correctly, keeps your body between the ground and your head ( cameras)... and lessens the likelihood, of a misstep, or of tumbling right ONTO the cameras... and hurting either THEM,,, or yourself..... I use a technique whereby I lay back upon touchdown,,, as though i was shooting downwind accuracy, ( ask an oldtimer @ the Dz what that is ) into pea gravel, and was gonna come up a meter or so short,,, ( used to be called 'stretching for the disc' ) .. then just like a TM,,, but without the added complication of having a passenger in the way,, I slide,, just as though i was 'stealing second base',,, ( drawing on my past years of experience,,, doing just that ), and can pop back up onto my feet, very easily...using the last bit of momentum to stand... true enough it does tend to beat up my jumpsuit legs and booties, or at least get grass stains on them,,, but it works well for me,,, and if done gracefully is FAR superior to rolling around on the ground... PLUS it keeps the helmet and it's components safe.....and that keep your head and neck safe... It's like most things in this sport. It takes some practice, and some repetition and some confidence that it can work...

good question and interesting concept... to paraphrase Bill Clinton,,, it depends on what your definition of "sex" IS..... really... people who are and have been sexually 'experienced' probably realize that there are many levels of intimacy... and closeness can be achieved in a satisfying way,,,on each of those levels.... If ... it's all about 'hitting a home run', right away, then where is the fun and anticipation, in that!!!?? Often,, when that occurs right away, it can quickly become... "game over"... I think 'extra innings' is far better, and patience can add alot to a new relationship.... we are after all,,, emotional and complicated beings, not just 'animals in heat' so to speak. (personal disclosure). my wife and i met when in our Late 20's.....LATE..... we were both naturally, somewhat experienced, and of the normal, or maybe Above normal levels of libido...... Our mutual respect for each other, allowed us to go one step at a time and that home run swing,,,,, was Not of the top priority... We shared some real, deep and connecting intimacy ( use your imagination here friends), without 'needing to experience intercourse',,,and that allowed our closeness to grow.. It worked out really well, and we chose to become engaged to one another. We shared lots of closeness, not just physical, and stayed patient till we were married... THEN that " Home run" turned out to be 'grandslam'.... and guess what ???? we decided to play a double header !!!! It was and is far superior to playing one quick road game, and then getting back on the team bus, to head elsewhere.... it can be tough to stay cool and keep the early excitement of a new person from clouding our judgement... but I 'd say , most of the time that will enhance a relationship and not detract from it. the key is communication, verbally, emotionally, and not just physically... I'd say you are wise to move slowly, explore each other, in all contexts, not just in the bedroom, and realize that something as "square" as holding hands, can mean more than..... wham wham bam bam,,,, if you get my meaning.. stay the course, enjoy the journey, grow something which will be cherished and appreciated by both of you... .......just my $.02............ jimmy

..... BIFF!!!??????? surely you jest !!! if one hasn't figured out the way to avoid such landings,,,,,,, then that might be the first thing to concentrate on,,, before adding cameras to the mix!!!!! hahahaha as for Uncool...... too late to start worrying about THAT... at this point in time ..... ps.... i tend to run all the camera functions, from the camera anyway, leaving the Cam Eye switch covered with it's plastic cap, and buried up inside the helmet liner, anyway... and as stratostar points out.... throwing money at something isn't ALWAYS necessary... inexpensive doesn't always equate to cheap... true enough though,,, the mirror trick is dated, and God Forbid!!!!! we climb into an airplane in this day and age,,, without alllll the cool new toys...!!! to steal a line from "Fernando" ( SNL ) ,, "it is better to LOOK good , than to BE good" and ..... " Youuu looook Mahhhhhvelous" does seem to be the current mantra, at dz's near and far.... be safe, take care of your gear, be considerite of others, skydive with enthusiasm.... That's cool enough for me jaytee

. . . . . alert....... Old school video guy posting here.... there WAS a time before Cam Eyes were available.. lanc port or not.... and as another poster here commented,, it IS a hassle to ask others around you,, "Is my record light ON "???? A decade ago I got around that bit of nuisance by taking advantage of the red indicator light ON the camcorder itself.. I trust that these new hard drive models DO still have a red 'record indicator ' light somewhere near the front of the housing.... IF it was not covered in gaffers tape, and NOT in a closed box,,, and IF the light was visible to a fellow jumper in the plane, while the helmet was ON the vidographer's head......then, The the 2 dollar solution ( and this worked really well ) ,,, was to carry a small folding cosmetic mirror in the pocket of the jumpsuit... As jump run begins, the mirror is opened and the video person, uses it himself or herself, to check that red light personally..... You can go from standby to RECORD,, check the mirror to assure the light is ON, flip the mirror closed and stow it into a leg or shoulder, or chest pocket, in a lot less time than it takes for me to type these instructions... Works... ( worked ) just fine... But lost favor when the cam eyes became more readily available.... Perhaps it's time for a resurgence.... sometimes simple can be better than 'high -tech'... jmy ps...when in the plane with a pretty girl nearby, student OR fun jumper,,, I always played the following trick..

Zero Times i've been in the same home now, for 20 years... It is a nice home we like it first picture is our house second is wintertime around here... brrrrrr third , fourth and fifth are some of our wildlife neighbors.. The piliated woodpecker lives in the woods. It is waaay bigger than any crow, I've ever seen. one time I saw two of them, together, both pecking away at the same tree...They are really Big... The 2 African Elephants live down the hill behind our house, at the recently expanded Local Zoo... We can walk less than 100 yards, through the woods, to a local footpath, in order to visit them, even when the zoo is closed to the public. ( 5 pm til 9 Am ) . we feel fortunate Move?????? no thanks. we're happy...

hahahaha i had 1,750 jumps and 23 years...........when i started freefall video . I've always been kind of 'behind the curve' jmy

fair questions... here are some answers.... it takes A LOT more than just the abilty to buy the cameras. it takes a REAL and solid comfort in the air. that can come to some people quickly, and to others, not so quickly.. i'd say at LEAST 300 jumps,,and regular attendance at the local DZ. If many of your jumps are to "get current again".... then the cameras should stay on the ground... It IS serious business It takes the ability to FLY naturally, at different fall rates, and the know - how to move forward, back, up and down,,,as second nature. it takes patience, good neck strength, consistant and relatively gentle main openings, and extreme awareness, in the air, in the plane , and on the ground.....You must be able to avoid a tunnel vision approach, wherein the amount of attention you devote to your video subject, detracts from your sense of awareness of EVERYthing else that's going on around you and to you, during a skydive... Ask around and be willing to learn from those who will share, and be willing to respect those who have come up through the school of hard knocks, and who might be reluctant to share... NOT everyone had a mentor... and there WAS a time when NOT alot of jumpers were flying cameras...( as seems to be the case today ) so many old school video folks were 'self taught'.... That's where the "patience part " comes in... be aware that new cameras, helmets etc etc, can cost more than the price of a second rig, so be ready to skydive with the same gear for a while... Humility goes a long way... accept the fact that cameras DO add a serious element to your jumping, and be prepared to pay for a bunch of jumps while you fine tune your technique... Oh yes.. be ready for that inevitable request from ANY ONE with whom you jump, of, "hey man can I get dub of that"???? which means get ready to invest in a recorder, a mixer, extra batteies, tapes, Dvds, music cds and peripherals... I aint just ALL about , " dropping a Credit card " on a counter top at a camera store, or through the internet. much more to it... it's a marathon, not a sprint.. skydive safely, skydive often, skydive with friends.... jimmy

old,,, but accurate.. "My drinking club, has a skydiving problem"...

LOL a bumber sticker? LOL did you on that on purpose? as NickDG said,,, "a typo" ......It shouldn't be a P instead of a B .... it should read USPA "Dumber" sticker great imagination by all especially jtval no to mention such capable computer editing abilities... very impressive.....