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I don’t like the character reference one the way it’s done here. I signed a reference for a friend of mines shotgun licence and IIRC the requirement was to be a professional person such as lawyer, doctor, accountant etc that the applicant knows personally/socially. I thought that was extremely elitist - clearly much easier for some people than others to get regardless of how well suited they are to gun ownership.

I wonder why.

Whose life is worth risking? As Bill pointed out, having guns in your house makes it less safe.

Jack - I've never jumped in the states though so it's unlikely we've ever met.

But it couldn't possibly have had anything to do with what Billy did? Those are some seriously mixed messages.

A few months after buying the gun that made it so easy. 13 years he had that he could have used scissors or an ashtray, but that never happened.

But he didn't. He used a gun. According to what he said here his youngest daughter was alive for 13 years before Billy brought a gun into their home for safety. She didn't reach 14.

You're wearing a fullface helmet and sunglasses. Is he supposed to be able to tell you have a feminine nose in a picture that's an inch wide?

I can’t see anything that’s gone anywhere. I genuinely have no freakin’ clue what you’re talking about.

What is a shit show or moving towards one, apart from whatever it was that Airdvr said?

Of using guns vs anything else? That was the entire point of the OP. If that’s not ok just lock the thread. If you don’t want anyone to talk about anything related to Billy, what he did or how he did it then there’s nothing relevant to the OP which is postable.

None of them anywhere as easy for a guy in a single moment of impulsiveness. Not to mention that whatever hypotheticals you can conjure, killing his family with the guns he bought to keep them safe is what he actually did. That is the plain and unbending reality of the situation. So you don't, ok?

Jerry my man, you don't have to read very far into that article to find this. "Smith, notoriously unstable and prone to violent acts in fits of rage, slit Herb Clutter's throat and then shot him in the head. Capote writes that Smith recounted later, "I didn't want to harm the man. I thought he was a very nice gentleman. Soft-spoken. I thought so right up to the moment I cut his throat." Kenyon, Nancy, and then Mrs. Clutter were also murdered, each by a single shotgun blast to the head."

Being as careful as possible then, it’s a sad indictment of American gun culture and gun messaging that a person who was fully aware of their own tendencies towards depression, bipolar and stress, their bad financial situation, suicidal thoughts etc…. Still genuinely thought the safest thing to do was bring multiple loaded weapons into the house he shared with his family. And there’s an enormous lobbying and media industry pushing that message onto more people every day.

Who said anything bad about minors? Anyway, again, this was in response to Billy bringing up Musk's dad as a good guy. Why is it you think that it's bad to respond to that? In a different discussion if someone brought up Woody Allen as a paragon of moral virtue would you be angry at the person who mentioned his family?

Yep, one guy out of 5 whose misdeeds were 25 years ago and who isn't involved in politics anymore. If he was a Republican he'd be on the Supreme Court by now.

You can't just say that and have it be true. You have actually demonstrated that you don't know what wokeness and related subjects like CRT are. You have actually admitted that you didn't know what cancel cuture was while simutaneously being angry about it because the right wing media told you to be angry about it. Yet you have still given zero critical thought to any of the other right wing media scare stories, just kept on being angry about them and blaming the left. You can blame me for your own wilful ignorance if you want, but it's really yourself you're hurting.

We've got all of those in the UK too except (probably) the fentanyl and formula ones. There's this new thing called global events, and it is unrelated to Biden being US president

Economically both parties have moved further and further right. Right, but as we’ve established several times you don’t even know what ‘woke’ means despite being angry about it yourself. Hence the division that you feel over wokeness hasn’t been instigated by woke people, it’s been instigated by the people who’ve told you to be angry over wokeness. You might think that if you wanted to assume something simple instead of bothering to learn anything about French politics. Or populism. Or politics in general.

Weinstein is gone. Epstein is gone. Franken is gone. Cuomo is gone. Could you have done a better job demonstrating the difference in how the two parties view sexual misconduct these days?

It was a direct response to Billy bringing up his dad’s fake resume as a reason why Musk is good. You must really know you’ve got nothing when you have to pretend that giving facts to counter made up statements is unacceptably rude.

Bigoted action picks never hurt white people. So what do you suggest - if you’re picking between a bunch of people who you’re not sure will succeed, you’d best pick the white guy because otherwise you’re hurting black people? Come on man, you know how transparent that is. Lol, your discomfort is obvious. You do t need to go back to George whoever. You’ve been posting here way longer than there has been this one press secretary. You never had a problem with how any of the previous incompetent ones were hired, because they were all white.

It’s all you. FFS, aren’t you right wingers always bleating on about personal responsibility? Take some, and address what YOU said. Those aren’t her credentials. She’s allowed to be proud of breaking through the conservative hiring prejudices that previous only let incompetent straight white people in. The prejudices you have no problem with at all.

What worries me at the moment isn’t Russian propaganda, it’s that some of the press are starting to talk as if ultimate Ukrainian victory is a fait accompli. Hyping the Russians being pushed back to the border from Chernihiv when we know they decided to give up there for now in order to redeploy in the East. Celebrating the BTG being defeated trying to bridge the Siversky river when there are still several more Russian units already in place threatening the closest city objective. The Russians are still advancing in Luhansk and Donetsk where their forces are concentrated and they’ve just freed up a huge amount of firepower from Mariupol. Consider how long it took for Russia to capture that city when they didn’t care how much of it they pulverised, then think about what it’ll take for Ukraine to retake it even if they can finally stop the Russian advance and start pushing them back in open ground. It’s a really short hop from prematurely thinking “Ukraine’s doing really well!” to hearing people ask “So do they really need as much support from us now?”

You starting this thread is identity politics. You assuming Bill loves her because of her identity is identity politics. You never having a problem with incompetent straight white people being hired en masse but losing your shit over one black lesbian is identity politics.