ChasingBlueSky

Let's do a few... 1. He is married to Terri, but living with another woman and has two children by her. 2. Although justified based on the above, she can’t divorce him. 3. Parents have offered to foot the medical bills and he still wants her dead. 4. He has consistently denied her rehabilitation and been hostile to anyone who attempts to help her beyond what is absolutely required (e.g. feeding baby food by mouth instead of feeding tube). 5. He has tried to deny all sensory input (e.g. removing pictures on the wall) to Terri making her state even more like a prison and a living hell. 6. This in spite of an equal amount of expert medical opinion stating that a degree of rehabilitation is possible even for a person in her condition. 7. I believe he has even denied her Catholic last rights when she does die. He’s planning on having her cremated instead of burial like her family wants. He also will not allow her to die at home. Why? Apparently I haven't followed this close enough....could you post links to where you found this stuff out...and who is saying it? I'm not sure what to believe. I heard the lawyer of the parents claim the husband is damning her to hell by removing the feeding tube. Yes, this was his legal argument. The Pope has declared that refusing to eat or have water is a sin since it is a form of suicide....therefore the lawyer claims this is suicide. Guess all those Catholics that have a living will are now doomed to spend eternity in hell. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

I thought this is what the gun nuts did? After all you never know when a terrorist is going to invade your neighborhood and you will need your AK-47 to take them out. Or you will need your CCW because someone may start a shootout at a concert and you could be the hero! The condition of shoot outs in schools seems to be happening in middle class white neighborhoods. I have yet to hear of one of these in the inner city. Seems to me the detectors need to be at both locations. Don't profile a school district because the average family income in the area is pretty good or because there is a particular race there. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

You have to be fully trained as an ATC by age 29/30. You must be employed by 30 as an ATC if you want a job. I started looking to become an ATC because I found out how much pilots make the first 5 years and just how many are out of work right now. Every school in the country and the FAA told me I was too old....even after they decided to extend the retirment age. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Laurie Dann proved that it could happen in any neighborhood. Look up what happened in Winnetka, IL back in May 1988. I promise you that Winnetka is as far removed from urban gang ridden areas. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

You may not be that far off. From the article: Student Sondra Hegstrom, 17, told the Minneapolis Star Tribune that Weise was into goth culture, wore "a big old black trench coat," drew pictures of skeletons, listened to heavy metal music and "talked about death all the time." A couple of his friends had said he was suicidal, she added, and they said they were watching a movie once when he said, "That would be cool if I shot up the school." "They didn't think anything of it," Hegstrom said, but "he got terrorized a lot" by others who called him names. Relatives of Weise told the St. Paul Pioneer Press that Weise's father committed suicide four years ago, and his mother lives in a Minneapolis nursing home because she suffered brain injuries in a car accident, the relatives said. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

hmmmm.....wonder where that happens _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

??? I am at work and can't get access to that right now, please post your source. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Well said. The gov't and everyone else needs to stop forcing their morals and religious guilt on this family. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

We had a similar thing happen here in Chicago about a week or two ago....I posted it here in this forum. There were guards on duty, but none of them were armed. The situation was solved by kids informing the teachers. Once again, guns are not the issues here.....but why are our kids getting access to them, why do they feel the need to bring them to school, and what has happened to drive them to mass murder? _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Watch GW make some sort of last minute move to remove more freedoms and rights..... _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Try this on for size. Imagine being her husband and having to live out her death for 15 years? He could have divorced the empty shell that has been sitting there many years ago, but he didn't. This is a man that is trying to do, out of love, what his wife asked. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Yup, it must have been hard to plan out a war to overwhelm a third-world country with the most advanced military on the planet. Let's see....throw almost everything at them and hope we don't lose to many of our kids along the way. Yup....that sounds like the Cliff Notes version. You think we would have learned about insurgents from Vietnam? Guess not. There isn't enough technology or troops to defeat a mindset and those with the passion and dedication to defend it. Then there is the nation building.....somehow a man who has run his own country into the ground was the perfect person to help rebuild another country? My thought is he went to Dollywood and figured he could make Ultra Conservative Christian Bush World over there in the Mideast. Looks like he is already planning to expand the park into Iran so it can connect to Bush World Afghan. I wonder if we will see Bush World Syria before the end of these three years? _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Exactly. Something was wrong somewhere, and it wasn't due to lack of gun control or lack of guns in the school. What caused this kid to get to this point?? That is the real issue here. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

And this incident, unfortunately, proves once again that *THEY DONT WORK*!!! My prayers are with the families of those lost.... Maybe I missed it or forgot from reading it yesterday, but did it mention the school had metal detectors? _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

In the time you spent adding several new pages to this thread you could have gotten thru the first few pages where most of the info came out anyhow. This would have included the link to the site PilotDave listed. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

You really think this kid cared if guns were allowed in that area or not? Even if they were it would not have saved his grandparents, would it? Do you want armed guards in schools now as well? Do you want to authorize guards to open fire on someone in the middle of a crowded, panic filled school hallway? How many lawsuits would come about from the parent that lost their kid to the rent-a-cop or the CCW with a bad shot? Incidents like this is why we have zero tolerance. Incidents like this is why we have metal detectors. I don't always agree with either policy, but they are there for a reason. But I'm sure someone will correct me on why having guns in a school would be a good thing. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

I did a quick search and didn't see this posted.....which had me surprised that not one of the gun grabbers or gun nuts posted this. (for the Fox fans as well: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151085,00.html) Student kills 5 at school and grandparents http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/21/school.shooting/index.html (CNN) -- A student on Monday killed two of his grandparents, then went on a shooting rampage at his Minnesota high school, killing five people and wounding as many as 15 others before killing himself, officials said. FBI Special Agent Paul McCabe told reporters the dead include a female teacher, a male security officer and four Red Lake High School students. "We believe that one of those students is the shooter," McCabe said. The school was evacuated and locked down, he said. "At this time, we believe he was acting alone," McCabe said. He would not comment on a possible motive, saying, "It's far too early in the investigation." The slain students were shot in one room, he said, adding that 14 to 15 other students were wounded. "Apparently, he walked down the hallway shooting and then he entered a classroom, he shot several students and a teacher, then himself," said Roman Stately, with the Red Lake Fire Department, who arrived at the high school moments after the shootings. Authorities discovered about an hour later that the boy had shot and killed his grandmother and grandfather, a veteran of the police force, Stately told KARE-TV. Stately said the boy used his grandfather's police-issued weapon in the school rampage. The shootings occurred about 3 p.m. (4 p.m. ET), in Red Lake High School, a school of 300 student that is on a sovereign Indian reservation within Beltrami County, about 25 miles north of Bemidji, a town of about 25,000 residents, many of them Ojibway Indians, he said. The school is about 240 miles north of the Twin Cities, near the Canadian border _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

How will a different browser allow him access to a site that has been banned via name or ip addy? _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

I still wonder where that raft landed. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Thank god you picked up the phone that late! I was so drunk I don't think I would have remembered to take pics the night of the incident. I did take a pic of the spot in the tent where he hurt his knee putting his rig on. Ya know....just for the memories _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

No, of course not. But the groundwork for trust hasn't been setup here. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

And they happen to post pretty much at the same time, or very close in time to each other. Maybe a mod could look at the IP addy of both? _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

And worrying about Steriods in baseball. You read my mind. Sometimes I just have to shake my head and wonder maybe I am missing something. And the involvement in the assisted suicide in Oregon, and trying to change the rules of pay-for-tv due to parents that allow their kids to see sexual content on TV. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

Must have been something they added...the first two times it didn't happen, but on the third time it did....and this was before the recent advertised new additions. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....

The last time I was at Blue Man Group someone yelled it....and they started to play the song. It got a huge laugh. I still think that Kevin Matthews was one of the original creators of the chant. He even had tshirts made back in the early 90s. I think I still have one around somewhere..... _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....