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Can we run this by our thread's Arabologist? Thanks for coming forward. This issue is not legal or a rights issue, but it is a "what's right" issue. Prior to Betty talking to you, had you had any interaction with the Qataris? Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

Ya Think? Yep. Totally unwarranted as he's never been impacted by members of that religion that can read his tat. It's not like he's been injured or seen people die. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

The person that prompted this tbread is not "just" a veteran, but a : Combat Disabled Medalled Veteran. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

FIFY Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

Another option. The DZO gets one of her staff to casually ask the vet about the tattoo, the meaning it holds, and why they have it. Armed with that info, she goes back to the Qataris and explains his side and offers to introduce them to each other.

This. As a veteran this guy is an embarrassment no matter what hes been through. Nothing justifies his blatant self promotion or entitled attitude. He certainly wasn't trained to be this kind of jackass and it reflects poorly on everyone who remembers what professional means. And Qatari visiting military should have thicker skins. They're the ones that should be more professional, as they're still officially representing their country on foreign soil. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

And a Godwin rule violation to boot. Replace "go holocaust" with "(derogatory term for non believer or black person)" Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

Yes. The visitor to that Muslim country if they showed an offensive to the local culture tattoo would be severely treated, but that's irrelevant. Were an American group in a Muslim country and a local person had a tattoo that an American would find offensive, could they approach someone and expect the local to cover it up or leave? Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

Bullshit. This was pure and simple greed to appease big spenders. Bullshit back. 51% of us in here don't see it that way. The way we see it, the jumper was deliberately picking a fight, and he got what he sought. See above, as well as the companion thread (threads?) in SC Apparently I missed where he walked up to the Qataris and pointed to his tattoo or intentionally walked by them multiple times to make sure they saw it. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

Bullshit. This was pure and simple greed to appease big spenders. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

If this business is destroyed, greed will be the cause of death. Were it just one Muslim fun jumper, doubt it would have been handled by the DZO or the offended party the same way. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

Yeah, that would have gone well. "Infidel!" "Raghead!" "Vagina of a camel!" "Pig fucker!" "Die, you dog!" So you're assuming neither party could be rational. LMAO at the article though. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

She did try and run interference but when that wasn't successful should have brought the parties together to discuss. Of course, the general could have also not involved the DZO and dealt with it directly. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

How so? The DZO never asked them to leave. At first I was outraged, but as more details have come to light it seems the vet wasn't entirely honest about the way the situation developed. The vet was singled out vs. bringing the complainer and the complainee together to work out their issues. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

Neither are redneck motherfuckers. Sounds like they were rather evenly matched. I'll take a combat veteran redneck motherfucker over a whiny rich towel head any day. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

The whole thing was handled poorly by all, but most so by the DZO/DZM. All were within their rights, but the parties should have been brought together to talk it out . Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

To behave like a fucking asshole toward the entire religious group, and not just the extremists? That's just bullshit. What you deem behaving like an asshole could also be a tolerance example. The person, combined with their injuries, may just be making a statement to the importance of tolerance. "I was injured by religious extremists for not being one of them." Islam and Muslims aren't well known for their tolerance of others, and the pork example at Perris shows these Qataris aren't very tolerant either. If this person had tried to talk with the Qatari General and his troops, this may have been able to be resolved. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

It would be interesting to know if the Qatar General was asked by his troops to bring it up or decided to do so on his own. On a personal note, someone who was injured by an extremist faction of a religious group should be granted a helluva lot more leeway. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

The big difference is that when VCs invest, if the company is successful, they not only recoup their initial investment, but a portion of the profits as well. The government might be paid back. Not that I think the government should become a VC, more just stop the high risk, low return loans. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

Sounds as if you wish people to be more monogamous and have longer deeper relationships and stronger families. Best way to encourage and support this is to open marriage and it's benefits to all couples: regardless of their genders and orientation.

You think it’s an accident? Do you think there weren’t some backroom dealings meant to ensure that there were larger interests that would be protected? I’d be surprised if the Russians didn’t grease the regulators to let them keep a bigger chunk. Considering how economically unstable this country has been, I'm sure the majority of the money in the banks left long ago. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

It's about damn time.

There was a wake for him a few years ago when he was really sick. He recovered and started jumping again.

It’s almost like you think they’d be upset if they ended up sending up a nuke without sufficient energy that tumbles out of control and hits Nunavut When does one stop trying to reason with the unreasonable? +1. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

bullshit. doing well has nothing to do with adding value. And Romney is one of 300 million people, not actually a statistical sample. but back to the adding value argument. everyone appears to be assuming that everyone has to 'add value' to be a citizen or to be an 'American' I call bullshit. it has nothing to do with that. you are American just be being born here and you are born with all those rights, no requirement to add value. the argument, on its face, is complete rubbish. and the people who pointed it out have no validity whatsoever in continuing the argument for that very reason. You have rights. Would you prefer a Constitution that requires you to 'add value' or be eliminated? Can't wait for that first day you call in sick..... talk about poor logic. While adding value is a good thing, it's not our real issue. The issue is those that subtract value and do it on the governments dime. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.