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Naw, what they need is when there's a wreck the drivers get out and start kicking the shit out of each other...it would be even better if there's a tire iron pulled and people rushing over there to break up the fight... I've seen that more then once at a local dirt track. That would be entertaining, but ya know we're Europeans above that sort of thing Gone fishing

Prissy Prissy, Just for you AggieDave I'll ask them if they can include a few circuits where they go backwards Europe has it's smaller races too, like run what ya brung or demolition derby we've even got drag, Look up Santa Pod race track http://www.santapod.com/ An for real life road racing ask any tearaway in Northern Ireland Gone fishing

Ok I can understand the marketing side. an formula one dosent have the same appeal in the States as it does in other countrys but it would be nice to see a Kenny Rodgers equivelent doing the laps. Gone fishing

With the new F1 season soon to start I was wondering why the Americans havent enterd into this international scene. You have some damb fine enginneers, an drivers also some good engines, I'm shure comming up with a competative 3ltr motor would'nt be to difficult I know you have your Indy racing and formula style racing, So why not enter into the International scene. I for one think it would be great to see you Guys competing. This is not a dig at the Americans so no flaring please. Gone fishing

Hastings would do that to anybody Gone fishing

In so many little ways I feel loved, It's when nothing feels like a chore It's being confortable with the silent pause It's finally finding the right partner It's having disiplined childern........... I'm still working on that one Gone fishing

Silly me Gone fishing

I think it's time to see the lighter side of a heavy subject Here's a picture of my son learning the correct way to throttle a cat Note, he has the beast in such a manner that he's not in any danger Not recomended for any other species other than Feline Domesticus Edit, whoops I forgott the foto Gone fishing

Get a winnebago an do it in style Or if not wait till the end WFFC I always leave the tent behind Gone fishing

If the main use of the laptop is number crunchin. Get a AMD based machine If it's more graphics orientated you need. Get a MAC Gone fishing

I hunt because I enjoy hunting If I want fun I'll take the kids to the park an feed the ducks. Gone fishing

I wondered when someone was going to pick me up on that one. Gone fishing

I still do not get the gene pool argument. Lets try to dissect the problem using a simple model. Lets say we have 5 families of foxes derived from five different pairs of parents in county A and 5 families of foxes derived from five different pairs of parents in county B. Counties A and B are completely isolated (migration is impossible). Are you saying that by eliminating some of these animals in county A you will help to avoid inbreeding problem? No, Imagine a heard of deer in a woodland area this heard is say twenty strong the woodland is thirty acres the stags do not have access to other heards, with out culling the heard will grow to big for the thirty acres to sustain it. this culling is our version of hunting. Now how long can a species go without injecting new blood ie: new genes from imported stags, I dont know how many generations a deer can go before it suffers from genetic defects. Gone fishing

You are under a common misconception, Animals suffer on the way to slaughter houses and suffer even more at the slaughter house . The term humain death is a joke Pigs Sheep and Beef are more or less all slaughterd in the same manor First over loaded into trucks driven to the slaughter house, put in pens then led to the crush where they are killed, On most occasions they can see the animal in front dying an if they cant they can hear and smell the blood and fear. I suggest you visit a slaughter house in full swing, You'd probably end up a vegeterian by the end of the day Oh an chickens fare even worse So all the time people are happy to eat meat, dont talk to me about hunting being cruel. Gone fishing

First I was talking about England with a population of over 55 million people and a land mass smaller than Texas. the free spaces where there are wild animals have to be managed The wild deer are in smallish heards or on private estates. Stags are moved round the country every couple of years to prevent inbreeding as a geneticist this you should understand Your last comment on killing people I have decided to ignore Gone fishing

Damn! Sounds like a full face is needed here! DC3? ltdiver Twinn otter I was 6 watching number 4, 5 in front of me hesitated for a instant an I ended up with his heel in my mouth Gone fishing

Wow, I've still got "grandma takes a trip" by black widow who remembers that! Gone fishing

I just realised my mistake when you said, OK, let's start a new thread: Ban the hammers in the UK, or much better: Ban horses! I took "ban the hammers" to mean the London football club Totenham hotspurs now I realise you ment to say "ban hammers" By the way your English is excelent, Gone fishing

Do you think killing the animals for fun is not cruel in general? No, hunting is a sport, Some animals need to be culled, for many reasons. ie: too many for the enviroment, To strengthen the gene pool or they are just a pest to society. As any hunter will tell you it is of the upmost importance that the animal has a quick an clean death If the hunter is any good the hunted is dead before it knows whats hit it. Gone fishing

Ah,. dont you just love it when girls grow up an realise men with brains are far more interesting than kids with muscle. Gone fishing

Cricket, God forbid It sends me to sleep quicker than a lullaby Water skiiing was my thing till I had a bad accident way back involving a railway sleeper in the medway channel "IF" in this context means the hunts avarage at actually catching a fox is not very good Foxes are cunning animals and very often give the hounds the slip A good example is a fox will run for an urban enviroment where the hunt can not continue with the chase Thats my definition of IF The Badgers where gassed because at the time the goverment thought that they were responsible for bovine tuburculosis. I think that it has now changed. As I have stated I am an Ex pat so as an ex pat and a ex British hunter (of sorts) I would love to see all types of snares outlawed, these instruments are not sporting and cause great pain an suffering to any animal unlucky enough to be trapped by them. Legal deer hunting is/was out of reach for the normal person, not having enough money for the licence or being able to have the rifle needed for the hunt . Incidently the British have a strange law about deers that are road victims the driver of the vechicle that hits the deer cannot keep the deer but the driver of the following vechicle can, strange eh! When I lived in England I lived on a farm in the SW. At the end of the season I very often took out a couple of stags with a crossbow using a homemade lathe turned ashwood 20cm bolt with a cross on the dull point. I would lie in a furrow with the mist rising an wait for the deer to come out of the woods The freezer full of venison was worth the disconfort. Gone fishing

Billvon, I seem to get the idea that you do not understand the British hunt, or you are being obtuse The hunting foxhound is about as far removed to a sheepdog as a rat is to an elephant A normal farm will have 2-4 dogs. A hunt may have upto 50 depending on the size of the hunt whilst not hunting these dogs are in a private kennel owned by the hunt. The hunt employs full time kennel maids to lookafter the dogs, also hunt Volunteers help with exercising them on private land the subscription dues of the hunt pay for the upkeep of the dogs For the dogs sake I really do hope that a different form of hunt can be formed, ie: using only scent but then how do you reward the dog at the end of the hunt. I somehow do not think a pat on the back an a couple of fido biscuits will suffice. Gone fishing

The hunt will only go on to private land with the owners permission, when the hunt crosses private land (with permission) the owners are compensated for any damage done . The hounds while chasing a fox will unfortunatly cross private property, The hunt master will endever to call the hounds back before this happens, but as you can imagine calling to bay 30 or more hounds in the heat of the chase is not eaisy. Again any damage caused by the hounds is compensated for. Before anyone thinks, Hell a pack of uncontrollabe hounds running wild across the country side. this is not the case these dogs have no intrest at all in people or domestic animals, they will only go for the sent of the fox. When an IF they catch up with the fox they do not kill it in a mad frenzy they surround it or stay at the entrance of the burrow where it has gone to ground, an they stay there untill the hunt master arrives, who will on alot of occasions despatch the fox before giving it to the hounds. What I find ironic is that never a word was said by anti blood sport groups when we where paid to go out an commit the wholesale slaughter of Badgers by gassing them in their dens Nobody says a word about the Pheasant shoots, or the annual cull of Stags, where the governmet charges French,Belgium an German hunters for the pleasure of shooting our Deer ( I say our Deer but as some one pointed out I am an ex pat, so they are not now my deer ) Nobody says a word about Rabbeting with Ferrets or Stoats So why should fox hunting with hounds be any different, It's different because these aniti blood sport people are Townies who do not understand the needs of the countryside Banning football I can understand, but why would you want to ban horses Gone fishing

real 10 way speed stars do hurt. Last year I got kicked so hard I didn't remember pulling on a jump and our camera man even go this finger broken on a jump! Ah speed stars my favourite from all altitudes, I love the bit about if it dosent hurt your not doing it right Never a truer word was ever spoken . I lost both front teeth to a fast exit and have lost several crowns to these enegetic exits My favourite 10way speedstars are the scratch comps these jumps are not for the faint hearted The old saying "slow is fast " dosent apply here it's fast is fast an faster is even better Just remember to wear a helmet Gone fishing

Eh? The one I meet some days when walking our dogs doesnt appear to know that's banned... and a gorgeous beast she is too, really friendly... nice dog. Whoops sorry already sorted.... Yeah I got the Japenese dog mixed up with the Ridgeback Can't work out why the dogo is banned it's a friendly dog as well personally I'd ban Yorkshire terriers, snappy little buggers Gone fishing