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Yeow, how to explain a tube dive. Ok I think the dive got it's name from it's appearance to an inner tube. If you can imagine rolling a large inner tube out of an aircraft it will first roll on a vertical axis then turn to a horizontal axis So using a minimum of four skydivers you can do the same, In the skyvan I've done with up to ten people. When you launch this at first it goes down verticaly over an over untill it reaches terminal then has the tendancy to turn on to it's side whilst still rotating (fast) By the time it's turned on to it's side an gone round a few times it's difficult to keep gripes so it's normally turned into a big dougnut, When it gets to this stage the trick is not to put your arm out an slow it down, The time will come when it will be nearly impossible to hold on an will blow it's self apart A fun dive As for exit postions ask an oldtimer on the dz as it's difficult to explain. But it's great to alternate guy's an girls cause in the exit your head has to be between the legs an laying on top of the next person I'm shure some one can add to this Gone fishing

Take out a tube, nobody does tube dives anymore An to reitarate what someone said, If you feel the need to hang on the side bits, be very carefull, Ive seen some nasty scars on peoples hands where they have caught them on the pointy bits of screws Have fun an stay behind the line till its your turn Gone fishing

>BTW...I'm a "she"< Oops my bad, guess I owe you a Margarita (beers for the boys) Gone fishing

I normally do not give my opinion on these sort or posts but today is different as today I landed out in winds gusting at 27mph (400jump limit) so if Rkymtnhigh is correct with his wind speeds I have to agree that with your experience you should of sat it out Imagine you caught a gust at 23mph off wind line just as you were setting up to flare. People don't want to stop your fun, they just don't want to see you hurt An if your not happy landing your canopy in nil wind conditions it's time to upsize With out sounding disrespectful you may know your limitations but the wind does not Next weekend may you jump your socks off safely Gone fishing

What am I doing wrong, Over 3000 jumps an I've never broken anything I did fracture my wrist one time, After landing on the walk back to the hanger my son came running out to greet me, droped his football I trod on it, fell backwards an ended up with the fractured wrist, But I guess that does'nt count I've jumped with my leg in a cast from the knee down,Non skydiving related injury) got some funny looks from the others in the plane Gone fishing

Ooops I did forget Hinton, Sorry very nice Dz. I forgot Thruxton as well but as Helicopter rotors an skydivers dont mix or rather did mix it closed down Now this is'nt directed at you personally Ernguru, but from my experience British Dz's are clicky (spelt cliquey) Now lets take a step back an look at British dropzones, A newbie arrives with low jump numbers, how many of you actually talk to him/her to find out his experience level an get him invited on a jump. Not many, most of you are wraped up in your own little clique, you would even realise a stranger had arrived. Now you go off to the States, arrive at the Dz, the Dzo checks your docs you sign the waiver an the Dzo or an instructor says lets find you a group to jump with. Or the people who went to Empuria in the early 90's greeted by Maria an asked straight away "you wanna make a jump"an whammo you were in a group. No in my memories of England this did'nt happen (very often) If your not an ice breaker you'll stay out in the cold. The British are standoffish to stangers it's in their nature So why not the next time you're at the Dz look around, forgett your group for a few minutes an see if some one looks lost make the effort to talk to him/her an see if you can fix up a jump. Put a little back into the sport. Gone fishing

>So you went to just about the least professional dz in the country had a shitty experience there (not that uncommon) and use that as an example to slag off all other dzs in the country?! < I don’t recall slaging of all other Dz’s, I said I found them very clicky apart from Headcorn (you obviously know which one I was talking about) which was down right unsociable. I have fond memories of Langar back in the late 80’s Also Eaglescott where Dave tylecot would bend over backwards to help anyone My home Dz was Netheravon JSPC where I never encounterd problems ever As I do now do not live in England but still talk to English jumpers, it is a bit of a mixed bag, Some say they will not jump in England an save their money to jump in Belgium or Spain, Some only jump at boogies, an some won’t jump at JSPC centres As they don’t like the military attitude. Returning to the original thread I agree British Dz’s can be snobbish Now I’m wondering why someone from Guilford would go all the way to Langar to jump when within an hour’s drive you have at least three Dz’s, Nethers, Weston and Dunkers Gone fishing

>Please do not make sweeping generalisations about British drop zones. I could make some sweeping generalisations about the French but I know better. Please show the same consideration.< My answer was my opinion not a sweeping generalisation. In my time I have jumped at most British drop zones BPA and JSPC Apart from a drop zone in the north of England and a small DZ in the southwest (which is now closed) I found the rest to be unfriendly places if you were not one of their regular jumpers, (read that to mean clicky in the extreme). I remember going to a DZ in the south of England (near Canterbury) to be measured for a new jumpsuit an thought I’d make a jump at the same time But the woman at the manifest was so dam rude to me I left right away Swearing never to jump at another BPA drop zone. In my time jumping at JSPC centres I saw quite a few students coming back from other country’s IE: South Africa, Australia, Spain, USA and NZ with just the basic AFF (7 jumps at that time). As long as it hadn’t been to long since their last jump all that was required were the conversion jumps an a hop an pop to get signed off With two years in the sport you are still on your honeymoon, Lets see what you have to say after twenty Gone fishing

I hate to ruin your day, But that is one ugly car. Gone fishing

My advice to any jumper returning to England after not being able to complete their AFF or consilidation jumps would be to go to a JSPC center instead of a BPA center, generally cheaper an less bullshit. Gone fishing

I use my own version of biodiesel an have done for several years, I use a 40/60 mix of refined sunflower oil with diesel from the gas station. This is in the Nissan truck I use for work, After more than two years the motor is just fine, Mind you when its loaded or going up hill it does smell abit of burnt veggies Gone fishing

No my fine British motor car (I guess that qualifies as European) gives me 100mph i'm lucky There all fixed Gone fishing

No silly, the tray's to put the PS2 on Gone fishing

I agree with you 100% doing 10-15 mph or maybe a little more on a long run and on the open road is perfectly aceptable The impatent driver ie: the weaver is a danger to every one around him I have a switch installed which I can turn on the brake/stop lights, When I see a weaver behind me I touch the switch an watch his hood take a dive from the panic braking. Gone fishing

I was born in the fifties too dont remember much till the sixties playing on the old bomb sites getting cufed by the local Bobby getting cained at school getting another cuff when my Father got home for getting cained at school watching Dr Who every Saturday having to walk 3 miles to the shops being made to go to Sunday School (thence came my loathing of religion) London being under two feet of snow my first trip to Carnaby street All in all a good decade Gone fishing

I think in every galaxy their exists some form of stupidity like PETA I'm 99% shure European law requires that all pet food is fit for human consumption which would make common sense as little baby Joe can crawl along an help himself to Fido's lunch Go to France an you'll even get it served up in a resturant along with a good helping of garlic Gone fishing

The video of the king air exits is, well, waiting to encode. The video of the otter exits, which does not quite have the same hold on for dear life, can be found at http://www.indigox.com/PPP%20Camp%20Short.wmv. I am the one with red grippers, and for the record, you are looking at my 50th thru 60th jump EVER, so don't expect Airspeed... But we got points. For a guy with less than 100 relative jumps you must of had /have a damb fine coach, You seem to have learnt slow is fast an the few mistakes I saw are to be expected with your number of jumps, I think your sore fingers maybe due to the fact that your legs are a little long on exit, Great video Gone fishing

>The video shows< So wheres the video Gone fishing

If I can clean hers, You can clean your dogs I'm the super dooper pooper scooper Gone fishing

For me the best commercial coffee, ie: a cup of coffee in a bar or resturant is Segafredo (Itialian) with fresh milk At home always in the fridge Jamaican Blue Mountain for me and Torrefacto for guests Gone fishing

The Borchardt-Lugers purchased by the U.S Army are generally called the American Eagle Lugers (unofficial designation) because of the American style Eagle stamped over the chamber on the barrel extension. Gone fishing

Rats. I felt shure they would have voted for Margaret Thatcher Gone fishing

If you where exposed to exhaust fumes I'm shure you'd end up with a headache and feel a bit sick I wonder if you have a habit of opening your mouth in freefall an this could be the problem IE: dry air being forced past your throat. Gone fishing

Solve all your problems buy a PC Every one knows apples go bad Gone fishing

I was just over in SGSD an went to open a post and I got "OOPS! you are not authorised to view that page" Now their is no trace of the post. Vanished from the face of the screen. Did I leave my window open an the aliens got in, No. Is big brother watching us, Probably not. An attempt to save bandwidth, Maybe. Anyway 5 other people saw the post before it vanished into the great void we call cyberspace. No really I'm just courious why has it gone without a trace, normally it says post deleted Do the Greenies have powers beyond our control? Ref: SGSD, I was thinking Purplesky April 16 2005 11.23 AM Gone fishing