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UPT Loudspeaker: "Mark, You have a call on line 1. It's a Mr. USPA" Mark is away from his desk. Please leave a message and I'm sure he will get back to you as soon as possible.

Does the "N" word offend you? Why is it ok for one group to find something offensive, but not another group, and do "challenged" people have the same rights?

Nice find. I think that will be a great add to many AFF classes.

On my first night jump, everything went fine (2 way head down with someone I had done a couple hundred jumps with), I pulled and instantly freaked out because I did not see the DZ (Which was right behind me). After about 4 seconds of panicking, I turned towards the DZ and entered the pattern, heading for the cars parked in the landing area for light. Right as I was getting ready to turn on to final, I noticed the glow sticks of a jumper doing the opposite pattern from the rest of us, who was going to turn into me. I proceeded to turn "downwind" (L&V winds) and land in the dark flaring on instinct. I slid in on my ass and survived, but said I would never do another night jump. I faked my other night jump in my logbook to get my D because I did not want to do another. A couple years later, I finally got my second. This one was a demo jump into a high school playoff game. There is nothing like getting the thrill of a night jump, but landing in a packed stadium (open air) with a couple thousand people screaming, and then going to the bar and watching everyone's landings on the 4 local news channels. Mark Klingelhoefer

I used to pull at 2,500 until my last Mal (a nice Stiletto Spinner). After that I have always pulled at around 3,500-3,000. That is unless I'm doing a hop n pop to play with my canopy.

If it happens on the RSL side of your container (and completely slips) and you don't have a Collin's Lanyard, Your reserve will deploy into your (still attached to the other riser) trailing main.

I used to call it flying like a vidiot, but I was filming CReW, so it was fairly accurate.

Did you pay for it? You can not call a jump you payed for a FREEfly jump. If you did not pay for it, it definantly qualifies.

If you hire someone to kill someone, I think that makes you an accessory. Just becuase you did not have the balls to pull the trigger yourself, in my opinion, you are as much of a murderer as the persone who actually carried out the action.

I actually am enjoying the season and I'm glad Jesse was voted off. (This is my attempt to steer the thread toward something that will not be locked)

I second this.

Good point. He will be banned in 5.......4.......3......

Yeah, my afro made the cut....... I'm honored. Mark Klingelhoefer

I personally thought the "drummers" and the "Printing Press" were incredible. I rewatched it several times over, thanks to DVR.

If that is the case, why does he act as though he is going to sleep for the night and acting as if he is waking up the next morning, when we all know he stayed in a hotel?

Don't make me stop this plane........

Have the local rigger act as a middle man who holds your money and the rig until the container is inspected and verified to be what was advertised, and he sends the money and hands you the container at the same time. Make sure to throw a little money the riggers way over an above the inspection price for helping you out.

It's a long caption but..... "America... America... America, FUCK YEAH! Coming again, to save the mother fucking day yeah, America, FUCK YEAH! Freedom is the only way yeah, Terrorist your game is through cause now you have to answer too, America, FUCK YEAH! So lick my butt, and suck on my balls, America, FUCK YEAH! What you going to do when we come for you now, it's the dream that we all share; it's the hope for tomorrow"

Does anyone believe that all of these programs, plus the DZO conference, all cost less than $99,600 (203 US Group Members and 46 International members listed in parachutist times the $400 assuming they are all "large")?

C. I believe the "Professional" is an e-mail newsletter, not a separate publication. If it is a separate publication, I've never seen one. Doubt it costs much. D. I've not aware of any USPA sponsored DZ insurance outside of third-party liability, which only covers individual jumpers. If such insurance were available, I'm pretty sure I'd know about it. Please point to some specifics. E. Doesn't exist (in the real world). H. Access to the AAD fund is reserved for GMDZ's, but help from them is not guaranteed and the AAD gets at least some funing from separate contributions outside of member dues. I'm not sure of the breakdown. I. Has this ever happened? Not sure, but I'd like to hear of cases where USPA paid for expert testimony in a case against a DZ. Also, a careful read will reveal that these benefits are "either as part of the membership or on a user fee basis." So they are not all necessarily free. J. As I mentioned earlier, USPA lobbying efforts help everyone, not just GMDZ's. L. Huh? What does that even mean, and where is the cost? I think you need to base your argument that the GMDZ is expensive on some numbers, not just some fuzzy descriptions from the website. Again, outside of the AAD, which is not tied directly to the GMDZ program, I fail to see where all this money is supposedly going. By omitting any other harm to the individual jumper outside of misdirecting part of their dues, are you saying that financial concerns are the only problem with the program? If so, then I again don't see what all the bitching is about. C. but it doesn't produce itself, so it takes someone some time (and therfore money to produce). D. If they (USPA) is misrepresenting the insurance on thier website as a benifit that does not exist, I could believe that. E. But is is offered and could be used by any DZ in the US. The USPA offered me insurance when I was a member, but because I didn't use it does that mean it did not exist? H. Some funding surely come from dues. I. I'd be willing to bet that the USPA attorneys have spent time in court for a Group member on several occations on our dime. J. Got ya, but if a DZ gets shut down, it is far worse for the DZO than for the members, who might have to drive an exrta 30 minutes to another DZ that wasn't shut down. L. The USPA develops student packages sent to all GMDZs and Safety Day packages and things like this (Which cost money to develop and ship)

But every Group member in the country has the right to have this done for free, and if hey requested it, the members whould pay for it, unless someone can let us know what the group members pay per year, and it could cover it.

I don't disagree with you a bit. In an AFF or an IAF (Tandem) it was my duty (not my istructors) to pull.

Here is is straight from the USPA Website..... And from the SIM And you think all of these programs pay for themselves through Group Member dues? Could someone from the USPA let us know what percentage of the Group Membership costs are covered by their "dues" and how much USPA members (not group) pay for. It looks like the following would be pretty expensive. C. Subscription to the "Professional." - Is this a separate publication put together for just Group members, Cost of staffing and production? D. USPA-sponsored insurance. I assume this is different than our insurance and it does not pay for itself. E. USPA courtesy inspection and recognition of participation. Surely is not free H. Support from the Airport, Access and Defense Fund in accordance with SOP 26. I. Legal referrals and expert testimony on a case-by case basis. J. Government relations support at the state and federal levels on issues affecting state and nationwide skydiving. L. USPA sport promotional programs.

So let me get this straight: the DZO's, the instructors, and the video guys are all dues paying USPA members, and the DZ is a dues paying USPA Group Member, but you don't think they deserve USPA benefits because of who they choose to jump with? Should a USPA Group Member DZ be required to allow all USPA members to jump there? At my DZ we have a list of people (short, but still there) in manifest that have been banned for life for unsafe acts. Under your philosophy, we would have to let them jump as long as they keept sending in their $49 to USPA. And what about you? You say you are no longer a USPA member, so what do you care what USPA DZ's do or do not allow? If you're not part of the organization, why should you have a say in how it is run? You can criticize tandem mills all you want, but complaining that they are taking advantage of USPA is bullshit. Being banned because of unsafe actions is completely different than being banned simply because........ If my dollars (before I canceled) are going to support a dropzone's ability to exist, I should have the "privilege" to jump there until I do something stupid to get banned. I have never been banned from a DZ, but there are several in the US that I am not welcome to jump at, and the USPA, and all of their member dues, are still supporting these DZs. If the Group Membership program could support itself through Group Membership dues, not member dues, then my argument would not be valid, but as long as the members are paying for the program, they have a reason to complain that these DZ's have "banned" them. I did what we tell people to do if they don't like how they are treated at a DZ. When your complaints are not being heard, speak with your wallet. That is why I canceled my membership with the USPA.

Sounds like them damn TRP reports I keep forgetting to do.