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geez, couldn't anyone sense the facetiousness of my post. i'm just saying it is a good place. to have to defend my playful banter is just boring. but the fact remains that the ny dz has a reputation for being, generally, less cautious.

it is a private joke between eric and i. more funny when you say or hear it in person i guess. kinda like with the Frankenstein's "It's Alive!!!" voice if you can imagine that.

This sounds like a narrow perspective. Flocking has rarely included docking. Tracking almost never includes maneuverability on an individual's axis. And neither of them are considerable for an effective artistic routine. Although, I've seen people pull off a tracking routine at nationals - albeit, not quite as dynamic looking as the vertical stuff. I didn't know someone is saying that they "invented" it. Who is that? I know that someone is claiming to have coined the phrase. Much like FreeFly® which we all love so much. Who cares if it is the next big thing or not...it is still friggin fun as hell. Not to mention very challenging indeed - to pull off all the moves you like to do in head down and sitflying except at a different vector; moving across the sky as opposed to down it. You just keep on keepin on dude...and I will do the same. Peace.

You are on, man. Let me know if you are ever around. Two jumps...one freefly with my best attention. and one flat fly with yours. It'll be scary to be looking at the ground through a whole jump again.

It is all flying in my opinion. Just get the fuck out. Blue One's Fly Free - Dave C

And it doesn't matter where. As long as there isn't a flock of seagulls in my way.

A.T.M.O.N.A.U.T.I.

Hmmm....reputable source. How about that everytime I am in a conversation about the place, it ALWAYS ends up with some scary story about what goes on there. I've been jumping in NJ for 10 years and have been to the ranch like twice - and just cause of boogies and to try it out. No skin man, it is cool. Just don't get hurt and use your own head to make decisions. When I get in a discussion about Crosskeys, it ALWAYS ends up on a light note, with a fun reminescent story about good times. That other place has a completely different agenda. You want a reputable source, talk to 90% of the people who consider safety their top priority, and then bring up the dz in the same conversation and see where they lead it. Be my guest.

Why are you talking to Yonatan about removing my post? Is he your daddy? And besides, let's not even get into this.

yeah....but then i might get depressed for all the derogatoriness

Sure...and of course the one that started it all and my favorite... NTD 2: Sam's Club

NTD 3 1/2: Target & Macy's

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did saying 'good grief' bother you. some thin skin you got there sweetie. is it nice and soft too? maybe we can share a coach jump when you are around. be glad to show you how to remain stable off of your belly. hahaha!!

Yonatan, You work there dude...that is kinda bias. Besides, I think you just want people to look at your new jumpsuit as you walk by. So, don't listen to him. Listen to me...Crosskeys is the wiser decision imo. Statistically more safe. Theoretically more jumps. Factually better landing area. Politically a better decision. Functionally better packing area. Empirically in your best interest. Opinionatedly more fun. Just a little further for you though. Blues -Dave

good grief

Atmonauti has a good deal of characteristics about it which seperate its kind of flying from head-down flocking and flat fly tracking. Don't knock it until you try it - that is, try docking on a 4-way atmonauti base. It may not be as easy as you think. If you get the angle right when flying, the 45º (+ or - a few) that the article mentions...then you may be able to note that it is a lot more sensitive to vertical adjustments and horizontal ones as well. Dialing in a two way dock can even be quite challenging without ample time in the sky. I am not talk about a fly up and grab; more of a fly over to your slot and calmly dock. It is just different...dialing in a steady and slow dock is a completely different story. It takes a lot more discipline imo. The airspeed across your body (head to toe) is greater than tracking and very close to that of flocking. And this is the foundation which makes the dynamic more difficult. Because those who do it, I would guess only because I do, don't want to just move forward (although that is quite fun within itself)...we want to 360 turn, dock, change position, carve, go feet first, transition, and all the other fun stuff too. In addition, the possibility of horizontal distance being greater than vertical distance...hmmm, not sure about that really. It doesn't make me laugh though; it just makes me think about - how could that be true? Never considered it. But greater distances are obtained in atmonauti than from tracking. If it is true, it is likely to be caused by the arch in body position (i believe the arch may cause more lift). So I tend to understand where the writer was coming from. Please take a second to note that on these jumps the freeflyers are very hooked over on their backs or stomachs - this will provide a subtle lift - and at those speeds, a true 45º vector (or more) may be possible. I've only got about 130 of these types of jumps under my belt now and continue to experiment everytime I get to the DZ. I, for one, hope the phenomenon continues to grow - it'll set your fuckin hair on fire if you do it right....and that ain't no shit.

I believe you've both cornered them. Silence seems to be following. Or shall we expect a swat in defense. I strongly agree with that...a demo of close-to equal use or give the kid a new one.

2:9:0 perfect start to a season

Cool then maybe I'll go. Sike, dam, just can't friggin get on these big ways anymore. Too far for us cold-state boys.

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Does that mean it is illegal to freefly in some states? I've heard that is a law in some places not to practice any other position.

It is really more like saying, I can't believe people used to use these...

I know, but for us it has gotten even darker.

Ok, count me in. As long as you continue to share your friends....but maybe at the same time. hahahahahaaa!!