brenthutch

They were to have occurred already. With regard to consensus.... “No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong” A. Einstein Haven’t you wondered why climate apocalypse is always right around the corner, yet never seems to arrive?

And the globes plant life is part of the conspiracy.

What points do YOU take issue with? Set aside the conclusion, what facts are incorrect? Do you deny that the earth is greener because of elevated levels of CO2?

The conclusions are self evident.

Just read the quotes, ignore the commentary. I will help. “Within a decade we can expect regular summer trade there {across the arctic ocean}.” — “Arctic Meltdown“, a NASA press release on 27 February 2001. “By 2013, we will see a much smaller area in summertime than now; and certainly by about 2020, I can imagine that only one area will remain in summer.” — BBC, 13 May 2009. “The entire ice cover is now on the point of collapse. …The extra open water already created by the retreating ice allows bigger waves to be generated by storms, which are sweeping away the surviving ice. It is truly the case that it will be all gone by 2015. The consequences are enormous and represent a huge boost to global warming.” — The Scotsman, 29 August 2012. “I have been predicting [the collapse of sea ice in summer months] for many years. The main cause is simply global warming …This collapse, I predicted would occur in 2015-16 at which time the summer Arctic (August to September) would become ice-free. The final collapse towards that state is now happening and will probably be complete by those dates.” — The Guardian, 17 September 2012. “{T}he planet is swiftly heading toward a largely ice-free Arctic in the warmer months, possibly as early as 2020.” — Yale Environment 360, 26 September 2016. “Scientists in the US have presented one of the most dramatic forecasts yet for the disappearance of Arctic sea ice. Their latest modelling studies indicate northern polar waters could be ice-free in summers within just 5-6 years. …Professor Wieslaw Maslowski told an American Geophysical Union meeting that previous projections had underestimated the processes now driving ice loss. …’Our projection of 2013 for the removal of ice in summer is not accounting for the last two minima, in 2005 and 2007,’ the researcher from the Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, California, explained to the BBC. ‘So given that fact, you can argue that may be our projection of 2013 is already too conservative.'” — BBC, 12 December 2007. is that better?

PV < 2% coal > 20% LOL

All he is doing is siting the numerous failed predictions of the demise of the arctic. The discredit lies with the alarmists.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/04/30/terrifying-predictions-about-the-melting-north-pole/

You are right Bill! But guess what, fossil fuels are just solar power in a more dense and convenient form.

I didn’t ask you about concepts, I asked you about facts. Just what was factually wrong with the article?

Just like the folks who predicted the end of the glaciers in glacier national park, or the hurricanes, floods, droughts and wildfires brought on by higher CO2 levels. BTW, it was the bed wetting, science denying lefty Luddites that hamstrung the nuclear industry. Strauss was correct, his timing was just off.

What from the article was factually wrong? I get that you don’t like the messenger, but what of the message?

What is wrong with a right wing/libertarian agenda? It is demonstrably superior to a leftie/socialist/communist agenda. (Not to mention, better for the environment)

Classic leftie obfuscation. Can’t handle the message? Attack the messenger.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a30290768/china-artificial-sun-nuclear-fusion-reactor/

Why would we want to blight the countryside with bird/bat slaughtering windmills, millions of acres of solar panels, millions of miles of additional transmission lines, and deal with the resulting environmental devastation,(remember these have to be disposed of and replaced every twenty years or so) when we could have a limitless supply of environmentally friendly fusion power?

https://www.perc.org/2020/07/06/against-environmental-pessimism/ “What else might we achieve by the year 2060? Even though there will then be more than nine billion people, it is almost certain there will be larger forests, more wildlife, cleaner rivers, and richer seas. Most people who deny this, and insist things are getting worse, are simply wrong.“

Glaciers are still here, we have no more hurricanes, floods, droughts, or wildfires than in the past, record high food production, record high CO2, we even have record high temperatures (after “adjustments”) and everything is just fine. We have a century’s worth of oil and natural gas, which is more than enough to tide us over until we have commercially viable nuclear fusion power. Why are you guys unable to grasp these simple realities?

Bottom line, experts were wrong

I don’t understand. The experts said that the glaciers would all be gone by 2020, yet there are still twenty five named glaciers.

https://climatechangedispatch.com/inconvenient-truth-tornado-numbers-expose-al-gore-lies/

“Cereals are still by far the world's most important sources of food, both for direct human consumption and indirectly, as inputs to livestock production.” Small segment?

That’s the point Wendy, “par for the course” = normal/average not climate apocalypse.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/severe-weather/june-2020-produces-record-low-number-of-tornadoes/769140

FAO Cereal Supply and Demand Brief The Cereal Supply and Demand Brief provides an up-to-date perspective of the world cereal market. The monthly brief is supplemented by a detailed assessment of cereal production as well as supply and demand conditions by country/region in the quarterly Crop Prospects and Food Situation. More in-depth analyses of world markets for cereals, as well as other major food commodities, are published biannually in Food Outlook. Monthly release dates for 2020: 6 February, 5 March, 2 April, 7 May, 4 June, 2 July, 3 September, 8 October, 5 November, 3 December. Record global cereal production forecast boosts stock-to-use ratio to a twenty-year high Release date: 02/07/2020 FAO’s forecast for world cereal production in 2020 has been revised upward by 9.3 million tonnes this month and now stands at almost 2 790 million tonnes, with the global output set to surpass the record-high reached in 2019 by as much 3.0 percent (81.3 million tonnes). Global wheat production is pegged at 761.5 million tonnes, up 3.2 million tonnes from the previous month and now at par with last year’s above-average outturn. The bulk of the monthly increase reflects an upward revision to Australia’s wheat production forecast (+5.5 million tonnes), mostly resting on improved yield prospects underpinned by earlier widespread rainfall and favourable weather forecasts for the remainder of the season. This, combined with a larger than initially foreseen wheat acreage, is expected to lead to a more pronounced production rebound in 2020, which would mark a significant turnaroun...