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well when you do decide to come visit I've got a bed, er um, place you can stay if you need Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com

Just got back from the tunnel tonight and watched a couple people learning to freefly in there. One girl went to the tunnel for the first time wanting to freefly and had 10 minutes to fly. She did about 3 minutes on her belly, 3 - 4 minutes on her back and 2 - 3 minutes sitting. She did get to sit fly a bit towards the end of the session. My teammate (who is much less experienced as a freeflyer than this other girl) has done many hours of belly flying in there, between 20 and 30 minutes on her back and started sitflying tonight in the tunnel. She has never held a sit stable for an entire skydive but was looking better sitflying in the tunnel tonight then the first girl. I guess basically it comes down to how much time are do you want to spend on your basics. If you spend more time on your belly and your back you'll probably have an easier time learning to sit fly and will progress much faster than if you just try to sit fly as soon as you possibly can. Just my opinion from thinking about my own progression and watching other people. Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com

I usually wear a massively baggy suit (even bigger than the biggest suits the tunnel will provide) because I can focus more on what I am doing and less on how to stay up in the air and fly more relaxed. I have been freeflying in my regular freefly suit as well as my tight belly suit (with the booties off) and it works, it's just hard. Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com

Most people wear different suits for freeflying in the tunnel than in the air. Tunnel freefly suits usually are either very baggy or made out of a material that causes a lot more drag (lets less of the air through it.) Both suits cause a lot more drag than a typical freefly suit and both have their advatages and disadvantages. Most of it is just about learning how to put more of your body into the wind and remain stable. I've done two way hybrids in the air with me freeflying and a belly flyer (usually with about 10 lbs on) in my tunnel freefly suit. It's hard but it works out and is great fun. Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com

I don't know if there is a "usual" amount but I think I spent about 10 - 15 minutes on my back before trying sit flying in there. I had about 10 hours of tunnel time on my belly and about 300 freefly jumps at that point. My teammate has spent about 25 minutes backflying in there and probably should do some more before starting to sit fly. She has about 12 hours on her belly and maybe 10 freefly jumps. It all depends how comfortable you are in that orientation. Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com

Me too, I've only got 2.5 hours booked for tomorrow night edit to add: Merry Christmas to me...

It's more expensive and more addictive than crack! Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com

Thanks! So how is it that you measure danger? Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com

Keep in mind that back flying in the tunnel is very different than back flying the air. In the tunnel there is no rig which in the air is the first thing to hit the air. This has a huge effect on back flying. Your best bet is to go to the tunnel and tell them that you want to freefly. They'll probably have you show them that you can fly on your belly and then they'll work with you on your back until they feel you are controlled enough. At that point they'll start working sit with you. The other option is to hire a freefly coach to do the same. Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com

Sweet, well good luck with the move! Let me know when you'll around the DeLand area. Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com

Juan - Yes, I am in my house in DeLand now about to head over to my new home dz

Alright, I finally decided it's time to play too... Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com

No problem. I live in DeLand and keep track of what's going on at the tunnel and am there quite often. If you want to know of anything specific going on when you're better feel free to PM me and I can find out for you or help find you a coach appropriate to what your needs are. I Hope you get better quick!

No they don't, they sponsor the specific camps listed on their site. Anyone who wants can run a camp - just buy a lot a time and call it a camp. Rick - any of the RW camps you listed would be fine for teaching you basic RW. I know that Robbie Spencer is running a Majik camp pretty soon (maybe next week?) and a bunch of people from Skydive New England will be at that. There's probably still slots on that if you're interested. Also keep in mind that you don't need to participate in a camp. You could just get a coach and do some one-on-one tunnel time. There are a ton of great tunnel coaches around. It all depends on exactly what you're looking to do and what you're looking to spend. Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com

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did a whole day of jumping exiting between 1700 and 2100 feet - low clouds and we wanted to jump Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com

I just recently moved down to DeLand from NY (never having jumped there before) and I absolutely love it. I have very rarely had a problem finding people to jump with (either RW or Freefly) and I have found everyone there very friendly. I've loved it from day 1. Of course, now that I know a lot of people there, I like it even more. Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com

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When music was the main source of my income it was mostly from live performances and then studio recordings. I have made less than $500 total from royalties from CD sales. I have never recorded a CD under under my own name but have been on a bunch of other people's. The free music sharing has never bugged me all that much but I do know a lot of people who are very against it. It definitely has hurt some musicians, but not nearly as much or to the extent that the RIAA would like everyone to think. Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com

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This is definitely one of my favorite ones from a sunset load (I'm the one on my knees...) Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com

I don't know all the advantages of the stow-less bags other than the fact that you don't have to replace broken rubber bands. Rubber bands to seem to be out of place on a rig IMO. You have thousands of dollars of gear developed specifically for skydiving... and rubber bands. Being in DeLand I see a lot of people using these bags and they all seem to like them (especially the packers.) I personally cannot wait until they are released. Also, AFAIK the BergerBag has gone through another revision and the latest version is slightly different than the pictured one. Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com

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