skycat

who can swear like a sailor. Fly it like you stole it!

PM hooknswoop he was test jumping one at that wingloading, and really put it threw it's paces. Fly it like you stole it!

hook-ie-poo and I aren't going either, and you know....I really could care less. Of course I think that is due to the fact that I'm depressed about the fact that I was told a few weeks ago that no one on my team is allowed to go on vacation until next Feb. Fly it like you stole it!

A really large block of ice....3X2X1 usually works pretty well. Fly it like you stole it!

Yeah...so for the record, although hooknswoop and I share the same DSL router we are not the same person....I swear....there are pictures....really....we have been seen in public and I'm sure it was at the same time. Fly it like you stole it!

Need me to do your light work for you......I've been dreaming of firing out team in MA *evilgrin* I'll fire your person for the practice. Fly it like you stole it!

remember recomendations need to encompass everyone So you're telling me you need to fly something small to learn canopies? I'm sorry but I have to totally disagree with you here. The only thing you gain from smaller canopies is more speed and less room for error, so it's learn or get hurt. Well, to me, that's like saying to a 16 year old here's a mustang 5.0 if you're still alive in 2 years you've learn't everything ok. No a 150 is not a small canopy and in no way can be compared to a mustang at .8 and the difference between a 170 at .7 and a 150 at .8, can barely be felt other than the fact that you have options. Have you ever pulled the rear risers down on a canopy at that light of a loading, in an emergency situation? It is extremely hard, I was able to do pull ups on my rear and my front risers of my sabre 150. I'm not talking about high speeds swoops, I'm talking about avoiding traffic after opening, I'm talking about having options when the winds picked to 18. Ask anyone I jumped with, I didn't jump in winds over 15 even though students were going up because the DZ was waivered to 18. I backed up or came strait down all the time on my sabre 150. At the time I actually was 95 lbs with clothes on so I was probably 115 out the door, and I hated flying my canopy. I would pull, and then wish I was on the ground, cause all I could do was point my canopy at the DZ and pray, because without being able to use the front risers at all and the back risers very little. Your only option is sit in brakes which in my case killed all the forward speed and I just sank strait down. well trust me I was the 1st one grounded and the last one back in the air even after the students. (I grounded myself btw) My wind limit was 14 on my 150 and 18 on my 135, I didn't even try winds around 20 until I was on my 120. I've seen enough light people break themselves to know that the above isn't a good idea. As in light people you mean small girls. Well I know why small girls tend to get themselves in to trouble. Here is a quote I posted in the women's forum about a long talk Derek and I had about girls and why they seem to be behind the canopy curve *** Just remember we're trying to come up with recomendations, so if the S&TA feels you can handle your 104 - fine, but the recomendations have to be written for the averages, not the exceptions. For the record I'd rather see education be effective that any sort of regulation/recomendation.....unfortunately it seems most of us (and myself included in my earlier years) are incapable of that as we think of ourselves as indestructable and "it'll never happen to us"....well....it does. Blue skies Ian Exactly make recommendations that really do take smaller jumpers into account, not using your wife as the model either. Remember that there are even smaller people than her out there. This then comes back to training, and attitudes that need to change. Rather than running out to the landing area to watch the girls crash in how about giving them real advice or sitting down with them explaining the aerodynamics of canopy flight and canopy drill they can do. Offer then the same thing you offer the guys. I'm all for a BSR, heck I want people to have to test to continue jumping what they are jumping, no grandfathering, prove you really can handle what you got. Heck, I'm prepared to prove I can fly what I got. I know it won't happen, but if we are going to have recommendations, I want realistic ones for everyone. Fly it like you stole it!

Thank god someone finally mentioned that again. WL by itself skips over anyone who is a lightweight. I sent this recommendation to my USPA rep: Up to: 100 jumps Max 1.1 Wing load - Min size 170 200 jumps Max 1.2 Wing load - Min size 150 300 jumps Max 1.3 Wing load - Min size 150 400 jumps Max 1.4 Wing load - Min size 135 500 jumps Max 1.5 Wing load - Min size 120 Just my thoughts. Blue skies Ian Ian Underloading can be a problem also. In your recommendation, until I have 500 jumps I wouldn't be able to jump a canopy at 1:1. That leave me at a huge disadvantage when it comes to learning how to fly a canopy. Now I definately agree that me under a 120 @ 1:1 is going to be faster than someone on a 280 @ 1:1, but anything under a .8 WL leaves me with that "the canopy is flying me" feeling and backing up under winds that students can jump in is definately no fun. How do I know? I'm 120 out the door. If you want to do Min sizes, try this: upto A) 150 (There are DZs that put girls my size on ZP 150s during thier later levels of AFP) WL - .8 A-B) 135 WL - .9 B-C) 120 WL - 1 C-D) 105ish WL - 1.15 D+) any size for the record that would put me in violation since I have 350 jumps and jump a crossfire 104 @ 1.2 and a stiletto 97 @ 1.3 Fly it like you stole it!

Is that in relation to the inner A lines? (i.e. inner A lines are 2-2 1/2" longer than the outer A lines) Cause if that is true her canopy may be closer to 4-5 inches out of trim total. (the inner a lines shrink also) Fly it like you stole it!

Thanks a lot Kris, now Derek wants to know why I haven't built a set up like that for him to play his FS on. Fly it like you stole it!

What you see is exactly how far it launched. You really can't tell, but the spring didn't get to full extention and 0 bridle came out of the container. Fly it like you stole it!

2 different sets of risers were used for the picture. Fly it like you stole it!

close....this is what I was told when they resized mine. - Main lift web length - Leg pad length - lateral length beyond standard - if you have a 4th number that is the yoke extention or in my case it was a reduction. used to have a 15/16/-1/-1 now have a 15/16/-.5 Fly it like you stole it!

I had that problem with my reflex what I did was put the tuck tab between just the 2 side flaps and not under the 3rd flap (top flap) so the tab was pinched between the side flaps and the top flap. Worked like a charm, but when you get a pin check in the plane you have to make sure you tell the person how to reclose it or they will stuff it under all 3 flaps. Fly it like you stole it!

Find out what your instructors favorite beer is and bring a case of it just for him. I know Derek still talks about the student that brought him a case of heiniken for every level that he completed, and since this was the AFP program it was something like 15 cases. Fly it like you stole it!

hehehe....I loved this line... (Added bonus: The female-male ratio is pretty fabulous - less than 20 percent of skydivers are women. The guys, who are all hot as Georgia asphalt, seem to think any woman who drops from the sky is amazing. And they're right.) Fly it like you stole it!

Derek has video of an AFP level 7 or 8 student give a weak throw and the pilot chute went strait into her burble. It danced around back there and actually hit her in the back of the head twice before it finally launched. Fly it like you stole it!

Usually I pack after every load no matter what, and the times that I don't are rare since my gear bag is to small to have an unpacked rig in it. (airline carry-on style) If it does make it home unpacked it gets packed that week or it will be sitting all week in the living room in a pile which drives me nuts. Fly it like you stole it!

Are any Jump Shack handles affected by this, since they did supply these bad ones? Fly it like you stole it!

Damn it now I'm going to have to eat 2 packs of cookies instead of one.....Oh the horror....oh the guilt..... Hmmm...looks like the food companies are going to make more money without raising the prices. Fly it like you stole it!

Don't make me fly circles around your PD 210 butt. hmmmm....speaking of girly canopies. Fly it like you stole it!

Just PM me. Fly it like you stole it!

Do a search of this forum, it has been discussed here before. Fly it like you stole it!

We modded all of our risers (including the ones with velcro) to the #2 method after Derek got his Micron which was set up like that. Derek used to do his javalins the #1 method before this though. Fly it like you stole it!

I make monkey fists for the pilot chutes hook makes, and yes they are smaller, but they don't compress like the hackey does. The amount that the hackey squeezes down to is about the same size as the monkey fist. Except you don't need to squeeze as hard on the monkey fist because cord that is around it is less likely to slip than leather, especially when wearing gloves. Fly it like you stole it!