Ron

I got a story..... Well I go to a new DZ, I have maybe 30-40 jumps. The local skygod comes walking by me sitting in the packing area and throws his rig at me and says "New fuck, pack this". At the time I was an innocent 20 year old trying not to make waves. So I packed it...... Everone is busting my balls for packing his rig when he ordered me to... He lands from the next jump yelling and cussing...He comes running into the hanger everyone wants to know what was wrong...He says "That son of a bitch didn't uncollapse my slider!!!" The whole DZ busted out laughing at him, and congradulating me for sticking it to him. I asked him if he wanted me to pack for him again with an evil smile..... The truth? I didn't know I had to uncollapse the damn slider...But he didn't know I did it on accident... NEVER fucked with me again. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Its relevent in the fact that the last DEMOCRAT in office did nothing, and lookie there is another DEMOCRAT running this time also. And your "Bush lied" "Bush talks to God" "Bush is just protecting Daddy" BS is not a solution either...And not only is it NOT a soultion...Its also all fabrication. so again as long as you keep spouting the unsubstantiated slander from the left...Expect me to continue to show how the left is not high and mighty.... By yes bringing up your hero Clinton's tricks, AND things like Kerry ADMITTING he was a war criminal. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

the burden of proof is on you to show he lied..not me to show he didn't... Ever hear of innocent till PROVEN guilty? Oh I value your opinions when they are not just spit from the lefts mouth... And as for relevent..Well I think that if the last Democrat we had in office did a damn thing this whole issue not being an issue IS relevent... But of course your leftish ways can't see that. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Ever heard of innocent till proven quilty? The burden of PROOF is on you to show he did lie, not me to show he didn't "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

And I get sick of you and your buddies saying: "Bush Lied" without proof. "Bush just wanted to avenge Daddy" Without proof. See it goes both ways...atleast I have proof of the things I say. You should try it Bill, only say things you can back without just spitting the lefts crap like it is true. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

And your non proven SLANDER has what to do with anything???? We already know you can spread lies and half truths... "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well I guess we should do something about it then huh? Lets destroy it. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Ever heard of an abstain? I bet if everyone didn't vote they would get to read it. Whos fault is it if you sign before you read something? Proof Bush thinks God said it was the rigth thing to do??? Oh thats right, you don't use PROOF, you use SLANDER "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

And you have gotten good at avoiding any answers when they are asked of you...Oh and I have seen you use your greenie powers to force your point home. You are good at it. Why don't you answer questions Bill? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

At least I can prove what I say...you can't Again you can't prove he is a "stupid puppet"..But I don't expect you to not slander him...You're to good at it to stop now. Last I checked we had troops looking for OBL, and SH is in Jail...Seems like GWB did something. I don't think GWB is incompetent...you do, of course you can't PROVE any of it...so here we go again. at least I can prove everything I bring up...you just have slander. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Its relevent since you are bitching about it. As for sKerry vs. Bush...well make your own mind up...Its not like I could change it anyway.. But since you are bitching about something sKerry DID vote for...then said he really didn't like it...well that is kinda relevent. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Last time I checked..the PA was passed with almost 100% approval. Even sKerry voted for it. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

How about you guys PROVE any of your claims? I can PROVE my claims against Clinton. You have yet to PROVE any GWB lies...You MIGHT be able to prove he made bad calls...But being wrong and LYING are two different things. But you don't ANSWER these questions...Hell you don't even ASK them as questions. You treat them as FACT. Typical political BS..you can't prove it, but if you say it enough the weak minded will believe it. When you quit pushing the Bush lied approach and ASK then maybe look for the answers to those questions, then maybe we can have a real talk...But as long as you continue to flat out refuse to do more than slam Bush and his choices...Then expect me and others to bring up the FACTS about your buddy Clinton.. See I can show proof Clinton was a scumbag that lied....you can't PROVE GWB lied...But that never stopped you from saying it now did it? Yes, Clinton had 8 YEARS to deal with it...Even a prior attack...GWB had a few mths. But you seem to be ready to jump on GWB for not doing enough...But you just glaze over Clintons 8 YEARS of not doing anything. You condem GWB for taking us to war...And you applaud Clinton for giving us "peace"...Uh, if Clinton had done something....Then we would not have had to go to war...And the same thing goes for Bush Sr....We should have rolled over SH when we were there the first time...But the left wanted us to give him a chance...Yeah, that worked well. Its easy to be popular in good times...And its easy to nit pick and slam those who actually DO SOMETHING about a problem. In the battle of life it is not the critic who counts, not the man that points out how the strong man stumbled or how the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena...Who's face is marred with dust, sweat and blood. Its easy to play arm chair QB after game day. I for one think GWB did a good job considering what he had to face..The sudden surprize attack on US soil, and the largest loss of life by an enemy on US soil...9/11 killed more people than Pearl Harbor. On that day I bet Gore was thanking God he didn't win. So slam the guy who is active all day long with half truths and lies you can't back up. It just makes you look stupid and petty. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Thats like blaming the sun for skin cancer "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Sometimes its quantity, not quality "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Nope...In fact I have plenty of defenses for old GWB....However you leftish freak 'O's just keep playing the same old broken record..I could get a parrot to slam Bush for you... Squak....Bush lied...Bush lied Squak.. Its much more complicated than you claim. He got fed bad intel...as ALL Presidents do...But unlike prior morons in the white house he did what he thought was right while some others just sat on their asses...If prior Presidents (Including SR.) had finished the job, and made OBL's death a priority...Then we would not be here now. Clintons 8 years of hide your head in the sand policies on the middle east did nothing by give terrorists the time needed to plan big attacks. But you guys just keep playing the same old BS... International politics is not a simple game...At times you have to kill people who want to kill you. Well if I were to go looking for a piece of ass I'd rather have Clinton ridding shotgun than GWB....But when running a country I'd rather have a guy with MORALS...Even if they are based in religion than some corrupt assclown. Speaking of a corrupt assclown...Thats EXACTLY why I don't like Kerry...You can't get him to stick to one side of ANY issue. And a uber rich guy has NO IDEA what it is like to be a "common man"...But that jackass makes the claim he understands the "little guy"...How many of your friends have six, million+ dollar homes? Neither canidate understands the little guy...But Bush does not claim to be a normal man..Kerry does and it makes me sick. Kerry is an idiot that no one knows where he stands on anything....He is for or against whatever is popular..And that is dangerous. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well then you have problems with the way the DMV's policies, are affected by the SSA policies that they came up with due to the Patriot act. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Almost all the things Kallend said about Bush (who we all know you and he hate, but keep bringing it up) can be said for Clinton. So neither are perfect...But as long as you bring up Bush'e faults...expect others to bring up your heros faults. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Amen. But I'm not done yet...I still have things I want to do.... "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Yes, but also: 1. Don't be afraid to admit you made a mistake. It takes a big person to admit they screwed up, a small person to hide it and make blame. You can only learn the lesson if you admit you need it. 2. Realize that you are going to make mistakes...Everyone does...It is a natural part of learning. But yes the biggie is to learn from the mistakes of others...you will not live long enough to make them all yourself. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I don;t think most felons really think about politics to much... One of my best friends is a good old boy. He is a democrat...The reason? He always has been, and so has his family. He does not know ONE current issue about this election...He knows nothing about any of the scandels or rumors...He vote Democratic based on the past. The felons will vote dem just cause they will not vote repub. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Sorry, you are wrong. They supported the war, admitted they thought there were terroist ties, thought he had WMD's. They said it. You may not like where it took us, but they helped lead us down that path. It kills me how so many supported the Patriot act, the war in Iraq...And now they are against it. Flip/flop "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Clinton running again? Lies...Monica gate Secrecy...Whitewater Foreign wars.... Somolia, Kosovo, several air attacks on Iraq. Empire...Well I can't think of one...But you can't prove GWB is either. Fiscal responsability...UH the government SHUT down under Clinton. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

To quote you: So you are having a problem with the DMV...Not the patriot act. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

N.Dakota matters? Did someone send a memo and I missed it? Actually the 3 people in N.Dakota would matter as much as three people in NY City...As it stands now the 3 people in N.Dakota have MORE weight than three in NYC....And that is wrong. But anyway...As someone pointed out....Bush won without the popular vote...just as did Clinton twice...I don't remember anyone bitching about it when Clinton won with the EC. And I have not seen anyone ty and change anything since 2000. Plus, why is it only Democrats had a problem understanding a simple ballot? One would think that BOTH parties would havs had people get confused... The ballots used were APROVED by the Democratic party...And were not an issue until AFTER they lost. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334