Ron

My first kiss pass was on my 500th jump..I had a full face very early in my progression. When one of my friends found out I had never had a kiss pass....well when I was getting ready to do my 500th I could not find my helmet. She came walking by swinging a pair of goggles and she handed them to me. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No. I signed a contract that said I would be willing to put myself second to the good of the country. Now, that does NOT mean I would obey unlawful orders. This has NOTHING to do with this war. It has to do with the simple fact that: A. I signed a contract saying I would serve...and I will if asked again. MY signature is on those papers. B. My friends are there and they are my brothers. I support them even if I don't agree with why they are there. C. It has to do with the fact that I have and continue to enjoy the liberties that have been afforded to me by the people that have served before me. And my DUTY to perform those same actions if ASKED by MY country. D. If I agree or disagree with the war in Iraq I know this much....Saddam stated many times he hated the US, He tried to kill a former President, He used WMD's on people, He tourtured people, He was a negative influence in the middle east, He supported terroists in the middle east. For any or all of these reasons I would serve to remove him. I don't need a better reason to kill someone than their repeated threats to kill me after I know they are willing and able to do it. SH had made threats against the United States...He HAS started one war, plotted to kill a former President, and I have no doubt if he could have, he would have done damage to us....It does not matter to me if he could or could not do damage...Him saying he would if he could was enough for me to want him removed. Simple enough...A guy that calls me his enemy and wishes me harm, becomes my enemy. Again that is an ILLEGAL order. Now if that same 15 year old had a weapon and was a combatant, I would drop her. He tried to kill a former President, He fired at planes in the No Fly zone, he gave money to families of suicide bombers, He continued to tourture people...Dude that is Aggression. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

sorry that should have said I have NO ill wished for PK....I guess it was a Freudian slip. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I am a lemming. And while I have no ill wishes against PhillyKev...I'm glad he will never cover my six. I wish nothing but the best for anyone. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I think Majic was busted twice...On one its block 12 and it was VERY close... The French I think were clean. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Yes. Love to, but it was locked. And I only pointed out how he was a hypocrite in this thread..."I can't feed the trolls", but he can troll himself? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well to be honest Tom...Until he called me a lemming for being willing to complete my Army Duty...We were very civil. But I will not have some hypocrite use the very freedoms I swore to protect against me while he makes plans to run from any obligation of duty to this country. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Notice I said MOST...You have the tunnel and Dan. Most teams DON'T have that. And it still is not NEEDED, and MOST teams would do better to not spend the extra jumps trying to do it...The gain is not worth the expense. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Hypocrisy again...you won't respond to a troll but you will troll? Reference this post: "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

If you can do it just as fast without the vert....Why risk it? Most people do it just cause its cool. Airspeed was doing an 18 before they were doing it vertical....They HAD to do it vertical to shave that .2 seconds off of it. You don't. you said its probley as fast either way. As for the tunnel...Yep MOST teams don't have fast easy access to the tunnel, so they will spend a large amount of limited training jumps on a move that will only be done maybe 3-4 times in a large meet...That time is better spent getting faster random work or working on blocks that need improvement. Also, I have always done the WHOLE 11 in the tunnel...Its pretty easy. But then again the guys I have done it with all have TONS of tunnel and have all posted a 14+ avg. Case in point...Shamrock showdown. Tewaiz. Kurt Gabel: Coach and National competitor for Germany...15.4 high average. 10,000 jumps. Bob Healy: Very experienced competitor 18+ average, Tunnel coach and 5,800 jumps. Rusty Lewis: Experience competitor 16.0 high average, Tunnel instructor with more tunnel time than most should be allowed. Me: 3,300 jumps, tunnel coach with around 100 hours of tunnel 16.6 high average. We did a vertical 11 in the shamrock showdown...And on the third one we funneld it. We finished with a 15.4 avg, but we lost 10 seconds on that dive. Its a higher risk move that can be a disaster. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

It has been very quiet here about Vigils.... Any new info? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

They have to be hidden in with a message. You just can't do one liners....But one liners with a message...Well thats different. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I don't know...but I do know several people have told me he was ALWAYS above the norm...(Bad pun) I have only jumped with him a few times, but I would say he was always better than most. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I'd make that: 1. Land safely 2. Pull. 3. Pull at the correct altitude 4. Pull Stable. Id rather someone pull unstable, low and land safely than pull stable at the right altitude and hook it in. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No...thats not what I am saying. All I am saying is doing what is right...is not easy. This guy will HATE you for limiting him from his God given right to do as he pleases.... But in your position you have NO real power. You don't own the DZ and you don't control what happens... If you are afraid he has no clue..then don't let him film you. If you think he is a danger don't even get on the same plane... It may be the right thing to do, but it will make you unpopular. You can also try to help him. You have options, and I think you know me well enough that I don't care what people think of me...I am going to do what I think is the right thing to do. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Its not MY fault you are willing to reap the benefits of being an American but are unwilling to serve the country. How are those French lessons comming? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

wow does that sound familiar..... Wasn't I a "badguy" to you? I know I was to wrongway. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

you like hockey right? Good. You will be seeing alot of it. Its not MY fault you are not willing to fight for the country if it calls you... I'm glad you couldn't pass the military physical. I would not want a guy like you covering me. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I'll gladly defend this country while you run away to Canada and hide. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Norman Kent strapped on a camera on jump #27. That does not mean it is safe...Norman is NOT your average jumper. (Of course most 100 jump wonders think THEY are not either) "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Make sure you come back from Canada to vote...You know how Dems are with absentee ballots. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

http://www.malevskycup.ru/index.shtml "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Again you only support the country IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT. Again thats not Honor, and thats no sense of duty. I agree you have the right to oppose and vote and voice your concern...but when it comes down to brass tacks you can either do your DUTY or run to Canada... I'm glad you live so close to Canada, I have no doubt you have a route already picked out. Typical Democrat...I want, I want, I want, but I'm not willing to anything for it. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

You are willing to live in the US and enjoy the benifits of living here, but you act like a coward if the country askes you to do your DUTY to it? You are a typical Democrat...give me, give me, give me, and I don't want to EARN anything. I'm sorry your Asthma kept you from service...If true, you would have learned a lot. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

And that changes nothing just cause it was Germany. You live in a society and they enjoy all the benefits you should be willing to fight and protect it. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334