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BTW - I HAVE a CYPRESS in my rig and wouldn't have it any other way. You are so quick to jump down someones throat though that you did miss my point obviously. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

I don't object to anything. Read what I typed. LOLOLOL Issues. Large Ones. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

I would honestly have to agree as well - I thought Premeire gave me many more headaches overall than any Avid system ever did. Granted, there is more to an Avid system, but that doesn't mean you have to know it all to be productive. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

As long as it takes for my status to change from Addict to the next one up -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

I think you are missing the point quite frankly. The point is not to become dependent on something that doesn't replace actions. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

My first 150 were without, but I like knowing its there... -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Right on - have fun and be safe!! -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

HAH At a loss for words as you've summed things up nicely Bill LOLOLOL!!! -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Stupid people shouldn't be allowed to jump out of airplanes period. That last chick wouldn't know what was happening if someone held a gun to her head -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Yes - haven't you seen the Jackass series? -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

No doubt - wassup with that passenger??? -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

"Nowadays there are a large number of "Newbie" jumpers that show up, do AFF in a week, buy new color matched gear and they put more thought in the color of the pop top, than why they got an AAD or RSL." Sooooooooooooooooo true. Very well put Ron - although, with my bad history of getting hit in the head, I honestly use that as my main argument for having a Cypress. I'm not very afraid of getting knocked out in freefall primarily because I plan my jumps with people I know most of the time (95% of the time in fact). So true about altitude and going low as well. I find it funny when someone freaks out about not having an alti of any type, learn to use your eyes morons. Relying on a Cypress is a bad move that will shorten one's life span. Relying on an avalanche beacon is quite similar. Rely on knowledge and awareness to keep yourselves safe in a given environment as mechanical shit fails. Eyes don't fail, senses do not fail, knowledge doesn't fail. IMHO - I don't see why someone would do a poised exit on an emergency exit anyways. Get the f^&* out of the plane as fast as possible, i.e. dive out and down. I think that was the first mistake - doing a poised exit. I've gone over that scenario time and time again in my own head - if the pilot tells me to get the hell out of the plane, I'm diving out, not wasting any time. If she did that, she would've been fine. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

I personally don't have a problem with jumping without a Cypress as stated, its just nice having one in case bad things happen to my head rendering me unconscious. I wouldn't have a problem jumping if it was off, but luckily, I'm a freak in morning on my first gear check and check it three times upon arrival on the DZ. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Wow - extremely touching. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Not a chance. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Completely like going into avalanche prone conditions. The number one thing taught is, do not ever put yourself in a situation where you'll need your beacon. Prevention is key from the get go. Strange thing is, I think preventing the need for a Cypress in skydiving is much easier to obtain compared to running around in avalanche country imho. But that's just it - we need to work on every single element of safety in skydiving to reduce that need for a Cypress to less than one percent (but shoot, I'll still take one heh)... -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Sheeeeet - no shame on noone! Although I've heard it twice in my ten years in the sport, odds are small, but hell, we are all skydivers, so aren't we odd? -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Don't get me wrong - I love knowing I have one in my rig, but I just try not to rely on it in any sense of the word. How's it been btw Steve! -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Nah not really - a) didn't look at yer profile and b) have heard that said before more than once. Looking at yer profile, I know get the figurative speech heh! Anyhow - blue ones! -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

"The ONLY thing that matters to me and me only at that moment that I find myself going through 750' without a canopy is - "Cypres, do your job." The only thing you are thinking when passing through 750 without anything above your head is Cypress Do Your Job? No offense but IMHO that type of thinking will surely lead you down the hard road rather than the one where you will be able to jump another day. How about thinking, SILVER. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Exactly - there is a perception from a student's standpoint that the Cypress is a save all device. I act like I don't have one at all times. I can compare this to all of the new bullshit gadgets out there for people who travel the winter backcountry out here in the Rocky Mountains. The "avalung" for instance, or the avalanche beacon that has a directional locator on it. 9 times out of 10 one is killed in an avalnche becuase a car sized chunk of snow compacted to have more mass than a car hits them and breaks them. More and more people think that straping on an avalung or the latest and greatest avalanche beacon is all they need to survive - when that couldn't be further from the truth. The only thing one should rely on to save themselves is themselves and the only way to improve one's odds of survivial is to increase one's knowledge set regarding a partiuclar sport of subject. IMHO anyone who relies on a device of any shape or form to save them should NOT be participating in the sport in question. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

I think you hit the head on the nail with this one Bill. I agree with you completely that "true soloing" is done without a cypress. There is nothing to rely on but one's packing skills and reaction skills to whatever part of the skydive they are currently inside of. However, Having about 50/50 with and without a cypress, I'll take it with now that I know in my own mind that I can solo and am comfortable and confident in my ability to do so. Having a cypress today is only due to the fact that I like to jump without a helmet pretty regularly and I have a decent job -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Forget s folding. Get in on the ground, size it width wise for the container, and then with knees on slider links as usual, lift the far end of the canopy off the ground and roll the fukker under. I've been doing that for years on my Sabre and my openings are spot on 9 times out of 10. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

"the CYPRES is philosophically different from the other parts of the rig" Would completely agree. I see a benefit to jumping without one (many actually) but honestly just prefer to have one since I've had a tendency to get whacked on my head in other sports I participate in. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Case? KEG! -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --