freakydiver

Amen to that!! -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Hmm - this is a good example of it I think - looks like (I think its Rook) is doing the bottom part of the sit at around :37 - :47. pnm://www.mondial03.com/FFM_USA_Devore_Nelson_R1.rm It looks like he just gets his opposite arm back simultaneously with the opposite move in the other arm... -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

"What IS the correct conjugation of "skydive" in the simple past? Shouldn't that, like, be on the A exam or something? The skydiving terminilogy for Whoffos handbook? Should we really care?" She was tripping out on it while interviewing us actually lol! "Sky-dived" - rofl - just say jumped lady!!! Edit - and thanks! -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

I know this is going to be a toughy to explain - but I'm really starting to try to work on flying my arms separately of my legs while in a sit - i.e. to take a front to front foot grip with my hand (two sitters facing eachother, me a little low, taking their right foot say with my right hand). I'm having difficulties trying to visualise how to move my left arm back while moving my right arm forward to take a grip - should it be as simple as that? I'd imagine I'd also need to adjust a with a tad bit more speed with my legs. Can anyone give me any pointers? Edit - I am taking a look at this: http://home.tiscali.be/vertigofreeflyteam/freefly_divepool_2003.pdf and looking at the sit pics for say the double spock - and it looks like legs are all square medium-fast fall rate, and the left arm is all the way back - do you just rotate your left arm back on the same plane it would be in a regular sit while moving the right arm forward in the same fashion??? Thanks in advance. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Ahh the elusive mothertrack... -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

http://ww2.nwherald.com/NWH/news/278684474712369.bsp A demo that went well - no biff ins - all within 5 m of target. Man was I nervous lol!!! "They knew right off the bat that they want the wedding to be held back home here. Sky-diving was part of it from the beginning."" Yer damn right - the groom has to have fun at his own wedding too!! Edit: Sp. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

I wish. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Is 60mph to high to jump in -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

IMHO - more and more complacent skydivers are being born every day. I see it in canopy patterns, lying about experience, etc, etc... i think Ron's point is extremely valid if it gets one person to realize that maybe they shouldn't rely on a device to save their life but rather planning and education. "I'm a big macho guy that doesn't need to rely on anyone or anything else for my safety because I'm a great skydiver." I don't think he is saying that at all - quite the contrary - he is saying he learned and is still learning procedures and knowledge that helps him stay alive and he is just trying to pass that along. 'I know what's important for my survival. The fact that I have an AAD on my back HAS NO EFFECT on those things.' Precisly the point Ron is trying to make Dave. Arguing for the point of arguing as some people do in these forums is counterproductive and detracts from the quality of this medium - not directed towards you Dave. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

That looks more wide open than my old backyard -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Thats a great one! or var xyz = IsCompetent(ITDoods) IsNull(xyz) = True lolol -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Looks nice - good flash work you got goin on! -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

What is that tune? -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Hmm interesting way of looking at it - thanks for the splanation my friend... Blue ones... -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Phuk Bush. and his dad too! -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

lol - I just had to buy some jumps for my groomsmen jumping into my weddin! LOL - thanks for the disclaimer -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Here here - be safe skynflorida. Downsizing is not as cool as everyone makes it seem. Although in saying that, I'm a huge hipocrit with my Sabre 135 at 100 jumps loaded at 1.4ish. Luckily I made it through to the other side with only one landing that should've resulted in something alot worse. You WILL make mistakes under canopy - everyone does. It just a matter of how forgiving your canopy is to you. A 150 at 1.1 may not be that bad, just be safe and conservative and you'll be okay. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

I dig what yer sayin... nice sig btw lol... -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Hell - chiming in - I want to be a good freeflier!! -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Uhhh - you said, "Its not good for swooping long distances unless there is a 25 MPH headwind." I don't quite understand that, shouldn't you be able to swoop the shit out of that canopy on a no wind day? Just not understanding, not tryin to be a dick or anything...

I'm confused - it swoops longer with a headwind? -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Hell yah!!!! -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

He isn't criticising anyone for using a Cypress - he is criticising people who put themselves in situations that they normally wouldn't because they have one. Plain and simple. However, you do present a good argument, but imho, it doesn't hold water because of the fact that there are many many more factors in getting a good canopy above one's head after a skydive. There are many outside factors that can affect getting a good open canopy, especially nowadays with HP canopies. I have to agree with Ron on this one - if someone's Cypress pops, most likely they did one or more things wrong to get themselves into that situation. The Cypress save we are all talking about today could've been prevented had the person had the proper amount of knowledge to deal with the emergency exit. I am grateful she shared her story, because I learned from it and will bet anyone, the same thing won't happen to me. The one thing always taught in avalanche courses out by me is DO NOT EVER rely on any piece of equipment to get you home safely after a day in the backcountry. Only knowledge will reduce the risks as much as possible. All Ron is saying is that people (not everyone, but certainly a few) take safety for granted in this sport when they have a Cypress on their backs and they shouldn't. People freak out when they forget their alti's, but with the proper knowledge and with practice, no one should need an alti of any type. I never rely on the fact that I wear an avalanche beacon while in the backcountry to save me - 99 times out of a 100 if someone is locating my beacon, I put myself in a bad situation from the get go that I should've said no to. I never rely on the fact that I have a Cypress in my kit to save myself. Again, if it pops my reserve for me, 99 times out of a 100, I made one or more mistakes to get myself into that situation and I need to seriously sit my ass down and think things over before getting back on the next load. I think we can all agree that a Cypress is a wonderful thing to have, sure there are good reasons for not having one, but for the majority of jumpers out there, its a great addition to a kit. But hearing people say things like, "I'll be fine I have a Cypress" is not good. They are substituting knowledge with luck of the draw and it will bite them in the ass at one point or another as it usually happens with avalanches. My 1 cent... -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Interesting - I've been using and digitizing in Real format for years and years now and find it to be just as reliable given a stable machine as anything else out there. imho of course... -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --

Hmmm - high headed exit isn't a poised exit as it was described in the other thread. I do agree with you - you can get out quick, relative to the wind (just like you dogs know how). Heck, now that you said that though, I may reconsider diving out below 2000 feet, becuase I hear what you are saying. I'm just not going to setup a poised exit cuz that takes time. Thanks for the tip faulknerwn... -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." --